Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/12/us/ferguson-protests/index.html Neither officer was a member of the Ferguson P.D. Now, it's unclear if it has anything to do with recent events/if it's someone who took advantage of the protests/both. It does seem like that no matter if a cop is good or bad, they are now a target in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicmemesbro Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 When someone joins the police force, they should be aware of the consequences of being one. They should also be prepared for anything that can happen without violating civil rights. Much like a soldier in the field of battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 *intense facepalming* THIS IS NOT HOW YOU RIGHT A f***ing WRONG, YOU IGNORANT f***S! I apologize immensely for the above 24-size bolded all-caps text. Just had to get that out of my system. Now then, with that out of my system... Yeah, this isn't how you set a wrong thing right. This is not how you prove to be the "better race" or "on the right side" or some similar pissing contest. This is how you worsen stereotypes, kill people who had nothing to do with any of this, and sincerely piss me the f*** off. I'm legitimately having trouble figuring out how to word just how stupid, overblown, and out-of-hand this entire thing has gotten just because a white guy shot a black guy. Okay. Yeah. I admit, the officer was probably in the wrong for shooting the guy, but just because the two were of different skin colors, it's evolved into this. Should I go rally up all the white guys in Detroit and have them protest against black men shooting everyone up over there? No! Should I go rally up the white guys in Dallas and protest against Mexican gang violence? No! Why? Because if you're protesting against violence, it's probably best to do it...y'know, without violence. If the protestors took things peacefully here, that'd be one thing, but when you're acting like f***ing barbarians, throwing your town into riots, looting, and killing cops who aren't even doing anything but trying to do their job to feed families of their own, all you do is make yourself look like exactly that; f***ing savages. Ugggggggggh. The worst part is that the media is probably making this sound so much more like a borderline race war than it might actually be. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually worse than they're making it sound. Next act of "justice" when? Ferguson, get your s*** together. This isn't the pre-MLK era anymore; white and black are equal, and if one shoots the other, there's no reason to throw a f***ing tantrum and steal news headlines for months on end. Can we just kill them all regardless of color so we can be done with this bullshit? Cuz obviously that's how things are going to end at this rate. Before you reply to this post, keep in mind I'm very pissed off about this and my usual train of thought is kind of clouded right now. I probably won't fully agree with all this in a couple days either. The cops were not killed. Both suffered serious injuries, but survived. However, I do understand your frustration and anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I heard about this a few days ago. Apparently the whole Ferguson this just wont f**king stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Protests tend to attract people who are just there to attack members of authority or cause chaos. I do agree on the idea, people are supposed to equal, but because of a deep seated history of racism, people will always class it as racial if a person kills/attacks someone of a different race, instead of just a person killing/attacking another person (which is deeper seated in Human evolution). In the case of police shootings it's not always back and white to prove that the police officer was or wasn't justified in reacting how they did. People react differently in different situations as well perceive things differently. The law can be very vague sometimes, for example in the UK reasonable force can be used to prevent people burgling their house, what is reasonable force? People also see self defense really differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Ferguson, get your shit together. This isn't the pre-MLK era anymore; white and black are equal, and if one shoots the other solely to defend oneself, there's no reason to throw a fucking tantrum and steal news headlines for months on end. If you're black, you're almost seven times more likely to be incarcerated than if you're white. That doesn't strike me as equality, that strikes me as an unacceptable discrepancy that may very well be worth fighting to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rooster Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 If you're black, you're almost seven times more likely to be incarcerated than if you're white. That doesn't strike me as equality, that strikes me as an unacceptable discrepancy that may very well be worth fighting to change. He was pretty angry. Cut him some slack, please. But just WTF at the bar chart. That's horrible. Are there any charts for 2014? This is just fucked up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 If you're black, you're almost seven times more likely to be incarcerated than if you're white. That doesn't strike me as equality, that strikes me as an unacceptable discrepancy that may very well be worth fighting to change. And not to mention the Justice Department's report on Ferguson, which highlighted racial discrimination: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/04/us/ferguson-justice-report-accountability/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 With that chart you would also need to look at poverty levels at where they exist as crime tend to occur more in deprived areas. I understand what you mean, but protests against the police are more likely to attract those sort of people, probably the disillusioned, often who care little for the actual cause. Unfortunately the police often go for a mass 'approach', I suppose it's just a tactic they're actively taught. It's a shame we never hear of peaceful protests. Racism should be a thing of the past, but isn't. We've had issues in the UK with Chelsea Fans and Football has been plagued with. Guns just make it easier to kill people, don't need to be close range, probably not one of the better inventions we came up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 With that chart you would also need to look at poverty levels at where they exist as crime tend to occur more in deprived areas. That "deprived areas" = "black areas" is indicative of black people being deprived and forced to live in deprived areas in the first place. It is not an excuse to jail black people seven times more. He was pretty angry. Cut him some slack, please. I don't intend to humour or enable those who vent their anger by kicking people who are already down, I intend to give them a piece of my mind. By the way, I'm angrier than he was and don't want your "slack". Racism should be a thing of the past, but isn't. We've had issues in the UK with Chelsea Fans and Football has been plagued with. Plagued with what? I'mma let you finish, but I'm pretty sure racial tensions are worse in Ferguson than in the UK Football scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 So, I came across this: http://fox2now.com/2015/03/13/city-worker-says-ferguson-police-shooting-was-a-set-up-during-fox-news-interview/ Um, what? Why would the police set up the shooting of two of their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 When I first clicked this, I was expecting it to be France, a continuation of the terror attacks. But ferguson? c'mon now. That shit is still going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 So, I came across this: http://fox2now.com/2015/03/13/city-worker-says-ferguson-police-shooting-was-a-set-up-during-fox-news-interview/ Um, what? Why would the police set up the shooting of two of their own? As much as I hate to dismiss any notion of conspiracy, in this case it seems pretty ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Girl Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 This Ferguson stuff just keeps gettin' crazier an' crazier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rooster Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 This Ferguson stuff just keeps gettin' crazier an' crazier! Too crazy. This is going to worsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 That maybe true on deprivation, but what I'm trying to get to is, how many black people tend to live in deprived areas in the US compared to white families, or even in high crime areas (that are non-poverty driven). That might explain some of those stats and it maybe more beneficial for the US government to work on helping these areas, reducing crime there, however with these recent problems automatically being labelled as racial motivated (even though most of the time i doubt race ever crossed the police person's mind) it can be difficult to fix it. Football has had racial problems for years, I was just highlighting it as another place racism has bled into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 When I first clicked this, I was expecting it to be France, a continuation of the terror attacks. But ferguson? c'mon now. That shit is still going on? What do you mean still going on? You thought this was just gonna die down like a small fire? Nah. Once you get involved this deep, until everyone and everything involved is brought to light, the shit will continue to pile up. That maybe true on deprivation, but what I'm trying to get to is, how many black people tend to live in deprived areas in the US compared to white families, or even in high crime areas (that are non-poverty driven). That might explain some of those stats and it maybe more beneficial for the US government to work on helping these areas, reducing crime there, however with these recent problems automatically being labelled as racial motivated (even though most of the time i doubt race ever crossed the police person's mind) it can be difficult to fix it. Football has had racial problems for years, I was just highlighting it as another place racism has bled into. Let me stop you right there. Because, while there are more blacks living in poverty, more whites than anyone else see Government funding and aid to get out of the hood. By a substantial margin. And that's saying a whole fucking lot. Some of these brothers aren't in the hood by choice. They're there because they have to be, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 They made an arrest in connection with the shootings: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/15/us/ferguson-police-shot-arrest/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Bumping this because now, there are allegations of police brutality against the suspect. http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/16/us/ferguson-jeffrey-williams/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Bumping this because now, there are allegations of police brutality against the suspect. http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/16/us/ferguson-jeffrey-williams/index.html While I don't agree with his actions, he shouldn't have been beaten either. Now, if these allegations are true, he could sue. Idk man, this is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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