heraldry_lord Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 So... Arc-V is wandering into ZeXal territory, on the same level as Lets-make-up-cool-stuff. K. Reiji's talk about the evolution of Pendulums was referenced several times, so in reality, this should have come as no surprise to us. Pendulum then Xyz? Pendulum then Fusion? No sir. This right here is the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Wait, this is actually an Xyz-Pendulum, not just an Xyz? ...how the hell would that even work in RL? That's why that 3rd effect is there; since it can't be Pendulum Summoned due to not having a Level, it can instead convert itself into a Scale and avoid the issue entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Hey Evilfusion..... NEO GALAXY EYES PENDULUM DESTRUCTION DRAGON WHEN???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 It occurs to me that a RL printing is going to require either a complete overhaul of this card, or the introduction of a different Pendulum subtype. Because we don't have any methods of making Ranks become Levels, so either they have to MAKE methods, which will probably break the hell out of a lot of stuff, or they have to change this card to either not require Xyz, or to be a normal Chaos Xyz Change. And then to make an Xyz act as a Pendulum Scale...they'd have to make Pendulum subtypes, or have an effect that states that it can become a Scale (and mention what Scale, as opposed to printing it in Pendulum format). That said, I think the Pendulum-Xyz format looks kind of cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 It occurs to me that a RL printing is going to require either a complete overhaul of this card, or the introduction of a different Pendulum subtype. Because we don't have any methods of making Ranks become Levels, so either they have to MAKE methods, which will probably break the hell out of a lot of stuff, or they have to change this card to either not require Xyz, or to be a normal Chaos Xyz Change. And then to make an Xyz act as a Pendulum Scale...they'd have to make Pendulum subtypes, or have an effect that states that it can become a Scale (and mention what Scale, as opposed to printing it in Pendulum format). That said, I think the Pendulum-Xyz format looks kind of cool. I'm pretty sure the way it's set up in regards to Pendulum Scale works fine... It just sets itself as a scale when it leaves the field and cannot be activated normally by its own nature. Nor can it be Pendulum Summoned which is totally fine and makes sense. And it is possible that we may get the unprecedented RL mechanic of turning Ranks into Levels. To say it's impossible is fairly ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 It looks so friggin rad. Can't wait for other Pendulum-X hybrids <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 *vomits* This flies in the face of everything we've been told. Uh.... Maybe it'll be something like this? Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon + Dark Rebellion Xyz Dragon (1) This card cannot be Special Summoned except by using the above cards you control as Xyz Materials. (2) When this card is Special Summoned, you can detatch all of its Xyz Materials to destroy all Level 7 or lower monsters your opponent controls. This card's maximum number of attacks this turn is equal to the number of monsters destroyed this way. (3) If this card leaves the field: Destroy all cards in your Pendulum Zones, and if you do, place this card in your Pendulum Zone and, place one Pendulum Monster from your Main Deck into your other Pendulum Zone And that's still completely stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 *vomits* This flies in the face of everything we've been told. We were told a lot of things. It doesn't mean they'd be set in stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Y'know, there's actually a huge amount of flavour involved in this Pendulum-Xyz setup, which makes it really cool. Xyz Monsters are in many ways seen as an "opposite" of other monsters. Their Rank Stars begin from the left, instead of the right like Level Stars. While the term Level implies a larger number is higher, with Ranks a low number is often better (while not directly represented here, lower Ranks have way more payoff for the investment than higher ranks do). Plus there's the whole "Xyz Monsters are made of antimatter" thing, though that never went anywhere. So then we get to this thing. While the Odd-Eyes Fusions changed the "Odd" part of the name, this changes the "Pendulum" part. It's used by Yuya/Yuto under possession of... something, all we know right now is it looks like darkness; but they're acting violent and wrathful, while Yuya is normally energetic and easy-going while Yuto is stoic. But most telling is how the mechanic works backwards compared to the norm. Regular Pendulum Monsters will go to the Extra Deck when sent from the field to the Graveyard, including from a Pendulum Zone, allowing them to be Pendulum Summoned later (base Odd-Eyes even expedites the process thanks to its search effect). Since this is an Xyz Monster, it has to be summoned first, but then it changes into a Scale to enable more Pendulum Summons. Also, while unrelated to this, since it places Pendulums in zones (think Crystal Beasts), it gets around Timegazer's activation condition, while also being an "Odd-Eyes" monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 It looks so friggin rad. Can't wait for other Pendulum-X hybrids <3 I wondered when someone would use it as an avi tbh. One way they can handle the first effect is as well as its summoning requirements (2 level 7 Dragons), have an alt summoning requirement, Chaos Xyz changing on a Dragon Xyz (like DRXD) and if you do, do that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armoire Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 The black and green put together looks goooooood. I really like the card; adds an interesting mechanic to the game (if this ever comes out in real life). But would it go to the Extra or Main Deck? Do you have to Pendulum Summon it first, then get it to the Extra, then Xyz it from the Extra? I don't know how Yuya summons it, but it looks fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 The black and green put together looks goooooood. I really like the card; adds an interesting mechanic to the game (if this ever comes out in real life). But would it go to the Extra or Main Deck? Do you have to Pendulum Summon it first, then get it to the Extra, then Xyz it from the Extra? I don't know how Yuya summons it, but it looks fun. Berserker Yuya uses the Pendulum effects of Creation and Destruction Magicians (heretoafter referred to as the Sophia Mages in all my posts) to turn DRXD into a Level 4 for a turn, then make it copy OEPD's L7 to overlay into this monstrosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Do note that this will not need any sort of "Must first be..." wording, even if they do turn out to be capable of being PS'd by some stroke of fate.Pendulum Summoning can only Pendulum Summon face-up Pendulum Monsters from the Extra Deck, so they did think that ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmDown Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Most likely to be the cover card for Clash of Rebellions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Do note that this will not need any sort of "Must first be..." wording, even if they do turn out to be capable of being PS'd by some stroke of fate. Pendulum Summoning can only Pendulum Summon face-up Pendulum Monsters from the Extra Deck, so they did think that ahead. Exactly. And even if you Pendulum Summon it after that, without Xyz Material it's just a beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Exactly. And even if you Pendulum Summon it after that, without Xyz Material it's just a beater. .... Because a reoccurring 3000 beater is totally fair now, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 .... Because a reoccurring 3000 beater is totally fair now, ok. By modern standards, it basically is. Besides, I'm not saying I like it, I'm just pointing out there's a difference between "3k beater" and "3k Ring of Destruction/Chimeratech hybrid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Implying the game isn't over when you summon this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 .... Because a reoccurring 3000 beater is totally fair now, ok. OT: Wish I'd read the xyz monster part, but I'm pretty sure they'll adapt it to either be any xyz monster (and make this really damn hard to summon) or level 7 dragon monsters and have it just be generic-ish. Either way this thing is going to be one of those bosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 inb4 Grapha isn't fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Now that you brought up Grapha, I think the head looks a bit similar to this. Idk tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Now that you brought up Grapha, I think the head looks a bit similar to this. Idk tho. It's the beardhorns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peridank Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I dont think I would run it tbh It only seems good for an otk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 I dont think I would run it tbh It only seems good for an otk It's not great because it's amazing (it could be buffed though); it's great because, if it remains a Pendulum Xyz, it sets a significant precedence for the Pendulum mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Interesting to note that it has a little bit of D/D/D in the name... "the X X Overlord" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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