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Rodrigo

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The most relevant one is the second ability, but shitttttttt.


I actually think its the least relevant. Removing blockers or attackers and and able to save him or give him pseudo-vigialence seems more powerful for constructed. Lifelink mode only seems especially good against the red decks, but they have stoke the flames which can easily deal with him.

Yea, not feeling this as a mythic tbqh.
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It only stops one blocker unless you're wasting your spell, and it is easier to kill a creature with first strike unless it is a chump. The third ability is amazing for blanking spells, more than psuedo-vigilance because it still ETB tapped, as it does blank stoke the flame.


Problem is Siege Rhino and Tasigur are 4/5s and this can't get past them. First Strike is powerful, but I'm honestly not sure how many things it would be super relevant against.

Yea, blanking removal is going to be the primary use for the 3rd ability, and I think its the strongest one over all, but being able to gain pseudo-vigilance is likely to be relevant some amount of the time.
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Problem is Siege Rhino and Tasigur are 4/5s and this can't get past them. First Strike is powerful, but I'm honestly not sure how many things it would be super relevant against.

Yea, blanking removal is going to be the primary use for the 3rd ability, and I think its the strongest one over all, but being able to gain pseudo-vigilance is likely to be relevant some amount of the time.

It has a better matchup against RW midrange/control, that is for sure. It is more efficient in the mirror than it is against Abzan.

 

But when would blocking be efficient since their already going to attack with Siege/Tasigur?

 

It doesn't have psuedo-vigilance since if ETB tapped after you return it anyways, and it would just be a blocker than which is worse for this type of card.

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It has a better matchup against RW midrange/control, that is for sure. It is more efficient in the mirror than it is against Abzan.
 
But when would blocking be efficient since their already going to attack with Siege/Tasigur?
 
It doesn't have psuedo-vigilance since if ETB tapped after you return it anyways, and it would just be a blocker than which is worse for this type of card.


You can tap it down on their turn to save life and remove the blocker for later.

And I somehow missed that, even after you said that before. Reading comprehension fail.
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You can tap it down on their turn to save life and remove the blocker for later.

And I somehow missed that, even after you said that before. Reading comprehension fail.

You can, or you can just gain life. It is going to be more effective to stopping creatures from attacking, but that shouldn't stop this card from attack either.

 

It is okay, that is why I was wondering how it is psuedo-vigilance, haha.

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You can, or you can just gain life. It is going to be more effective to stopping creatures from attacking, but that shouldn't stop this card from attack either.
 
It is okay, that is why I was wondering how it is psuedo-vigilance, haha.


The nice thing about cards with options like this is they will always have some amount of board states and situations where they'll end up being good. Should be interesting how it all breaks down. Still, just sad this is a mythic since it doesn't have the feel a lot of mythics have.

I think I was comparing it to stuff like Aetherling who normally just come back normally. It happens pretty often that you compare it to things that work similarly and assume it will work that way too.
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The nice thing about cards with options like this is they will always have some amount of board states and situations where they'll end up being good. Should be interesting how it all breaks down. Still, just sad this is a mythic since it doesn't have the feel a lot of mythics have.

I think I was comparing it to stuff like Aetherling who normally just come back normally. It happens pretty often that you compare it to things that work similarly and assume it will work that way too.

It is sad, it definitely could have been fitted for a rare.

 

This is too different than Aetherling since it isn't a finisher, but a stabilzer in the game. Aetherling was even considered too slow, and only used as a finisher in UR Control before Theros.

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Still, just sad this is a mythic since it doesn't have the feel a lot of mythics have.


Note that this is the first triggered modal ability with three abilities, and there are literally about five or so cards in Magic's history that even have triggered modal abilities in the first place. I'm perfectly happy with this as a mythic myself.

And, speculatively, it may be too oppressive at rare. Like, Citadel Siege is a cool card and I wouldn't have it at anything other than rare but is one of the main reasons why Fate Reforged Limited is waaaayyy too swingy. I'd put this in a similar, if slightly weaker, category.
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It is sad, it definitely could have been fitted for a rare.
 
This is too different than Aetherling since it isn't a finisher, but a stabilzer in the game. Aetherling was even considered too slow, and only used as a finisher in UR Control before Theros.

 
I was referring to the blinking effect. Could be mistaken but normally they just come into play normally and not tapped, which is why I made the assumption.
 

Note that this is the first triggered modal ability with three abilities, and there are literally about five or so cards in Magic's history that even have triggered modal abilities in the first place. I'm perfectly happy with this as a mythic myself.

And, speculatively, it may be too oppressive at rare. Like, Citadel Siege is a cool card and I wouldn't have it at anything other than rare but is one of the main reasons why Fate Reforged Limited is waaaayyy too swingy. I'd put this in a similar, if slightly weaker, category.


It certainly has a lot going on, and it is powerful, but I like my mythics to have more pop. Meh, maybe I'm just crazy.

Citadel Siege is TONS better. Its effect is always on and is much harder to remove. But yea, Fate's rares over all are likely a little too good for limited purposes.
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This guy just feels awkward, he has powerful tempo creature abilites but a 4 drop in a tempo deck is not ideal. Then on the other hand he has a solid body for a midrange creature but then you need to devote a lot of your deck to non creature spells to make him as efficient as possible which is not ideal for midrange. I'm not really sure what direction they were trying to go with this guy.

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