-kyo- Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Arcana Force VIII - The Strength LIGHT Fairy lv5 1800/1800 When this card is Summoned, toss a coin: ●Heads: Take control of 1 monster your opponent controls. ●Tails: Your opponent selects and takes control of 1 monster you control, except this card. Arcana Force XII - The Hanged Man LIGHT Fairy lv6 2200/2200 When this card is Summoned, toss a coin: ●Heads: During your End Phase, Destroy 1 face-up monster you control and you take damage equal to its ATK. ●Tails: During your End Phase, Destroy 1 face-up monster your opponent controls and your opponent takes damage equal to its ATK. Arcana Force XV - The Devil LIGHT Fairy lv7 2500/2500 When this card is Summoned, toss a coin. ● Heads: When this card attacks, select and destroy 1 monster on the field. Then, inflict 500 damage to the controller of the destroyed monster. If that monster is not destroyed, destroy this card. ● Tails: When this card attacks, destroy all monsters on the field. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Arcana_Force_VIII_-_The_Strength http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Arcana_Force_XII_-_The_Hanged_Man http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Arcana_Force_XV_-_The_Fiend not sure if these would get played but devil seems pretty good (sorry if pics are big keep for getting how to shrink them) please discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 These guys REALLY need some decent supprt so that the gimmick is less of a flop, because its SO gimmicky that its damn near not working at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I love the flavor of the Hanged Man. It's one of the only Arcana Force monsters where the BENEFICIAL effect is the Tails effect. Or, as the anime depicts it, if the card stops upside down. The Hanged Man typically depicts an individual hanging upside down. It usually represents some form of spiritual surrender or suspension and can be interpreted either as acceptance or passiveness. If the Heads effect activates, your opponent doesn't have to do anything. Your own effect will kill you. If the tails effect activates, your opponent will be destroyed, and they can't do much about it. The Strength also has some fun little flavor. The Heads effect has you use your opponent's strength against them. The tails effect has the opponent use YOUR strength against you, but not THE Strength. The Strength represents stability and dominance without aggression. I suppose the Devil is fairly straightforward. It destroys others after taking out an ally. Or it kills everyone indiscriminately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 The Hanged Man bothers me infinitely since the entire concept of a tarot card having a positive outcome while being upside-down is...against everything. Dunno why this single card is different then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 PFFFFT. Just re-read Light Barrier, Okay so it lets strength just bend anything into your control permanently? Wow. Just Wow. Considering that Second Coin Toss, is a card, then this is pretty ridiculous. They still need a consistency boost tho from some serious support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 The Hanged Man bothers me infinitely since the entire concept of a tarot card having a positive outcome while being upside-down is...against everything. Dunno why this single card is different then. Tarot cards are neither positive nor negative. Being open to interpretation allows for a great deal of flexibility in a reading. An inversed card does not mean "negative" or "opposite". It CAN mean that, or it can even be the same as the right-side up, but weaker or blocked. The interpretation varies based on the person and the other cards in the spread. Sartorius often used specific Arcana Force monsters to represent his opponent. Against Chazz, it was The Hanged Man, and he stated that Chazz had essentially lost his drive to become stronger than Jaden. The Hanged Man represents stagnation, passiveness, and acceptance. Chazz felt he was strong enough to be pro, and didn't really push himself to get stronger still. Inverting the Hanged Man destroyed him. It destroyed that viewpoint. It proved not only was he not as strong as he thought, but that he had a way to become stronger, by joining the Society of Light. Admittedly, that's my interpretation based on my fascination with tarot. I'm by no means an expert. But the Hanged Man is also, as I mentioned, an image of an individual UPSIDE DOWN. Therefore, inverting it has the individual RIGHT SIDE UP. A positive effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshends Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Ahh Arcana Force, one of my favorite archetypes ever! They are the only archetype that focuses on the coin effect (but this makes them the worst archetype made) I will always love them, even if they suck at the moment. As for these monster, Hanged man is decent, not too powerful in today’s game but still nice. Strength on the other hand is such a troll card to use; you either lose a monster or gain a monster. The Devil is also a nice card to use, since its positive and negative effect is actually useful. These cards might be release in Duelists of Destiny this year, along with their other supports (I want Reverse Reborn and Arcanatic Doomscythe really badly :p) Let’s hope that this archetype will someday has some legacy supports to help them become playable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Never understood why Coin Tosses were hardly in the Anime. Sure Sartorius making the cards spin was more for flavour of his character but still... Running Arcana Force pretty much requires Second Coin Toss as a main and heck Luck in general is plain annoying. EIther it gives Uber effects or it kills you :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Tarot cards are neither positive nor negative. Being open to interpretation allows for a great deal of flexibility in a reading. An inversed card does not mean "negative" or "opposite". It CAN mean that, or it can even be the same as the right-side up, but weaker or blocked. The interpretation varies based on the person and the other cards in the spread. Yes, I just said positive and negative in the basic sense, since USUALLY the upside-down meaning is more malicious and sinister. That's why the upside-down Arcane Force effects are negative, why protagonists' Shadows in Persona 4 have upside-down Arcanas etc. Sartorius often used specific Arcana Force monsters to represent his opponent. Against Chazz, it was The Hanged Man, and he stated that Chazz had essentially lost his drive to become stronger than Jaden. The Hanged Man represents stagnation, passiveness, and acceptance. Chazz felt he was strong enough to be pro, and didn't really push himself to get stronger still. Inverting the Hanged Man destroyed him. It destroyed that viewpoint. It proved not only was he not as strong as he thought, but that he had a way to become stronger, by joining the Society of Light. Admittedly, that's my interpretation based on my fascination with tarot. I'm by no means an expert. But the Hanged Man is also, as I mentioned, an image of an individual UPSIDE DOWN. Therefore, inverting it has the individual RIGHT SIDE UP. A positive effect. Yes, that's what Hanged Man means pretty much. Stagnation. However, inverting it doesn't invert the meaning. It still means stagnation, however in a more hopeless way, like losing your own path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Ah Arcana Force. So gimmicky and nearly unconvincing in design, yet the effects are pretty much replacement for the lore. No wonder why Prophecy/Spellbook replaced them. The Strength symbolizes courage, virtue, hidden potential, and being able to harness physical or creative ability. Often that kind of power is able to withstand fortitude and can bond to others, disregarding the face of doubt. The opposite is recklessness, loss of morals, misusing personal ability, or sometimes being unable to create benelovent influence. The card version simply looks like the lion/woman taming decription with the power control, so I can see where it's going. Devil however is weird, considering the theme of begging into temptation/selfish vs healthy commitments requires destruction on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Yamiegg Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Tarot cards are neither positive nor negative. Being open to interpretation allows for a great deal of flexibility in a reading. An inversed card does not mean "negative" or "opposite". It CAN mean that, or it can even be the same as the right-side up, but weaker or blocked. The interpretation varies based on the person and the other cards in the spread. Sartorius often used specific Arcana Force monsters to represent his opponent. Against Chazz, it was The Hanged Man, and he stated that Chazz had essentially lost his drive to become stronger than Jaden. The Hanged Man represents stagnation, passiveness, and acceptance. Chazz felt he was strong enough to be pro, and didn't really push himself to get stronger still. Inverting the Hanged Man destroyed him. It destroyed that viewpoint. It proved not only was he not as strong as he thought, but that he had a way to become stronger, by joining the Society of Light. Admittedly, that's my interpretation based on my fascination with tarot. I'm by no means an expert. But the Hanged Man is also, as I mentioned, an image of an individual UPSIDE DOWN. Therefore, inverting it has the individual RIGHT SIDE UP. A positive effect. Fancay. I'm inspired to make some Arcana support which I probably won't post cos all my card posts go wrong on this site .__. Over 200 cards and I can't jam together a coherent thread in Advanced Multiples. Anyway, Arcana need A Hero Lives with no cos, a RoTA and something that makes their Tribute monsters easier to get out. And something that helps their "luck" along (or a way to search Second Coin Toss...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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