Five Nights at Frightfurs'

[CLG Klavier]

3 Edge Imp Chain
2 Edge Imp Sabres
1 Edge Imp Saw
2 Edge Imp Tomahawk
2 Fluffal Bear
2 Fluffal Cat
3 Fluffal Dog
2 Fluffal Owl
3 Fluffal Sheep

2 Frightfur Factory
3 Frightfur Fusion
3 Fusion Conscription
2 Fusion Recovery
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
3 Polymerization
1 Snatch Steal
3 Toy Vendor

1 Jar of Avarice

1 Frightfur Bear
1 Frightfur Leo
2 Frightfur Sheep
3 Frightfur Tiger
2 Frightfur Wolf
1 Abyss Dweller
1 Castel the Avian Skyblaster
1 Constellar Ptolemy M7
1 Lavalval Chain
1 Leviair the Sea Dragon
1 Number 103: Ragnazero

[vla1ne]

only two toy vendors? I thought that card was a godsend in frightfurs?

[CLG Klavier]

only two toy vendors? I thought that card was a godsend in frightfurs?

It is really good, but notice how Fluffal Bear directly searches it, that's why I can run 1 less copy, since I essentially have 5 of them.

[Blake]

Actually really close to my build.

Only thing is that I don't think you really need Raigeki. Bar randy Leos, Tiger accomplishes the same but better, and can make random things like the hands miss timing or be CL1 to dodge getting shot (in conjuction with Cat). I run 3 owl, but I can see why 2's a fine number.

I'd actually swap the bear and vendor numbers. BGetting Bear/Vendor + Vendor is going to put you far ahead in the game, and you can pop Vendor with Tiger for searches. That's the optimal T1, really.

For the ED, Chimera really isn't worth it. It's almost 100% outclassed by Sheep, becausse it takes so much more to summon for barely more payoff. Instead of it, and maybe some of the niche R4 (101 isn't really a great card anymore, Ragnazero is more suited to R4 spam), you should run 3 Tiger and 2 Wolf, and 0-1 Ptolemys, which is a good recovery card when OTKs fail/removal for things you can't or don't want to pop.

[vla1ne]

It is really good, but notice how Fluffal Bear directly searches it, that's why I can run 1 less copy, since I essentially have 5 of them.

that's fair I guess. I assume that's the same reasoning for edge imp sabres then?

I have the RL deck without the new support and I probably overlooked some of the newer supports uses, but how well does frightfur factory run in it atm?

[CLG Klavier]

Actually really close to my build.

Only thing is that I don't think you really need Raigeki. Bar randy Leos, Tiger accomplishes the same but better, and can make random things like the hands miss timing or be CL1 to dodge getting shot (in conjuction with Cat). I run 3 owl, but I can see why 2's a fine number.

I'd actually swap the bear and vendor numbers. BGetting Bear/Vendor + Vendor is going to put you far ahead in the game, and you can pop Vendor with Tiger for searches. That's the optimal T1, really.

For the ED, Chimera really isn't worth it. It's almost 100% outclassed by Sheep, becausse it takes so much more to summon for barely more payoff. Instead of it, and maybe some of the niche R4 (101 isn't really a great card anymore, Ragnazero is more suited to R4 spam), you should run 3 Tiger and 2 Wolf, and 0-1 Ptolemys, which is a good recovery card when OTKs fail/removal for things you can't or don't want to pop.

Hm, fair point on Raigeki. For Owl, yeah, you really don't need any more, it's 5 regular fusion spells with it since it functions like one as well.

 

...oh my god, you're right on the Tiger thing, I honestly missed that. Same thing with Frightfur Factory, that's great.

 

Mmmkay, I'll fix the extra up a bit then.

that's fair I guess. I assume that's the same reasoning for edge imp sabres then?

I have the RL deck without the new support and I probably overlooked some of the newer supports uses, but how well does frightfur factory run in it atm?

Frightfu Factory is great since it's a fusion spell that doesn't make you lose advantage since it stays on field, and even recovers Frightfur Fusion when it dies, so it's really, really good.

 

EDIT: OP list changed.

[Blake]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fusion_Recovery

I jsut noticed you're not running this. This is, like, the best non-archetypal suppoort the deck could ask for at 2-3 because it makes the turns you NEED to kill ABLE to kill.

[CLG Klavier]

Admittedly, I skipped it since I felt I will be banishing more than I felt like I will.

Thing is, finding space here is an ass :/

[Spinny]

Admittedly, I skipped it since I felt I will be banishing more than I felt like I will.

Thing is, finding space here is an ass :/

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/329334-fluffal-deck/

This is the best build ive personally found, since its been doing extremely well.

Plus, you could probably run rabbit over Cat, the deck has so much control over its Poly's in the grave that its a bit unnecessary, where as you can often find yourself without enough fluffal monster to go with your edge imps.

[Blake]

Cat's much more valuable than Rabbit.

Rabbit's mostly outclassed by Sheep (though not 100%), whereas Cat is another one of those cards that allows you to extend plays when you need to, whether searching it off of Dog/Vendor or just drawing it.

[CLG Klavier]

Decided to drop BoM and Raigeki for 2 Recoveries for now, since I'd feel REALLY bad for cutting any monster.

[Spinny]

Cat's much more valuable than Rabbit.

Rabbit's mostly outclassed by Sheep (though not 100%), whereas Cat is another one of those cards that allows you to extend plays when you need to, whether searching it off of Dog/Vendor or just drawing it.

You already have so much control over poly and fusing that cat becomes a bit dormant half of the time, from testing. 

[Blake]

Not really.

Like, yeah, cat can be dead at times (mainly super early/super late), but it's only a 1-2 of and it gets you back Poly, which is MUCH more valuable than another Fluffal, even owl.

Rabbit... gets you back things you have to normal summon/Vendor onto the board. Which means its rewards, bar Sheep/Cat, are slower.

[Spinny]

Not really.

Like, yeah, cat can be dead at times (mainly super early/super late), but it's only a 1-2 of and it gets you back Poly, which is MUCH more valuable than another Fluffal, even owl.

Rabbit... gets you back things you have to normal summon/Vendor onto the board. Which means its rewards, bar Sheep/Cat, are slower.

Not really, it just gets back an edge-imp or fluffal so you can carry on fusing, you dont need to then use that fluffals effect.

[Blake]

... So your argument against Cat is that Rabbit does the same thing but with a less valuable resource?

[Spinny]

How is poly more valuable?

You have Reserve, Recovery and Factory already.

Alot of the time in testing ive found that the actual monsters are more valuable.

[Blake]

There's no room for Recovery post-CROS, though it is better in the TGU build.

Reserve is 2-3 unsearchable cards.

Factory isn't banishing poly unless you're desperate.

Cat is searchable and allows you to circumvent having to permanently remove a copy of poly.

[Spinny]

There's no room for Recovery post-CROS, though it is better in the TGU build.

Reserve is 2-3 unsearchable cards.

Factory isn't banishing poly unless you're desperate.

Cat is searchable and allows you to circumvent having to permanently remove a copy of poly.

Reserve is still there tho.

Okay your second and third points are a bit stupid.

Im not talking about Factory banishing a poly, im saying that Factory lets you fuse, so it acts like a poly.

rabbit is also searchable, and recycles a seemingly more valuable resource.

[CLG Klavier]

There's no room for Recovery post-CROS, though it is better in the TGU build.

You just told me to run it? .-.

[Spinny]

You just told me to run it? .-.

yes and you should be, i dunno what he's talking about since a minute ago he said:

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fusion_Recovery

I jsut noticed you're not running this. This is, like, the best non-archetypal suppoort the deck could ask for at 2-3 because it makes the turns you NEED to kill ABLE to kill.

[Blake]

You just told me to run it? .-.

I got reserve and recovery mixed up in my posts X_x

Do NOT run the trap
DO run the spell

[CLG Klavier]

I got reserve and recovery mixed up in my posts X_x

Do NOT run the trap
DO run the spell

And here I thought you're descending into MPD~

[Blake]

Reserve is still there tho.
Okay your second and third points are a bit stupid.
Im not talking about Factory banishing a poly, im saying that Factory lets you fuse, so it acts like a poly.
rabbit is also searchable, and recycles a seemingly more valuable resource.

So you say stupid because... you lack an actual point?

Reserve isn't still there because it's not worth it anymore.

Factory banishing a Fusion spell... requires unsearchable cards/Furfusion. It acts as a poly, sure, but only OPT and it doesn't make as good use of the materials most times. Especially Cat. Sure, it can use rabbit more, but the monsters are much less valuable when you need the actual fusion spell to get it going.

[Spinny]

So you say stupid because... you lack an actual point?

Reserve isn't still there because it's not worth it anymore.

Factory banishing a Fusion spell... requires unsearchable cards/Furfusion. It acts as a poly, sure, but only OPT and it doesn't make as good use of the materials most times. Especially Cat. Sure, it can use rabbit more, but the monsters are much less valuable when you need the actual fusion spell to get it going.

Uh, how am i lacking an actual point, the point im arguing over is whether rabbit is better than cat, do i really need to reiterate it in every single post? No.

Why isnt reserve worth it anymore?

Those unsearchable cards your mentioning, you run: Fusion conscription, Fusion recovery, Fusion reserve, (I run) Instant Fusion, you can use it on Poly aswell if you must and even Frightfur fusion. So you run so many of those that one will undoubtedly be in the grave by the time factory is set up. 

Only OPT, yes because you recycle the poly by other means aswell, so you do have alot of fusing going for you, and every extra fusion counts for quite a bit, but you need the materials first.

yes you need the fusion spell, but you have so many other ways of getting to it that you dont need to devote cat aswell.

[Blake]

Uh, how am i lacking an actual point, the point im arguing over is whether rabbit is better than cat, do i really need to reiterate it in every single post? No.
Why isnt reserve worth it anymore?
Those unsearchable cards your mentioning, you run: Fusion conscription, Fusion recovery, Fusion reserve, (I run) Instant Fusion, you can use it on Poly aswell if you must and even Frightfur fusion. So you run so many of those that one will undoubtedly be in the grave by the time factory is set up. 
Only OPT, yes because you recycle the poly by other means aswell, so you do have alot of fusing going for you, and every extra fusion counts for quite a bit, but you need the materials first.
yes you need the fusion spell, but you have so many other ways of getting to it that you dont need to devote cat aswell.

Then why resort to attempting to drag a point through the mud with insults?

It's too slow and there's not enough space. It DOES offer more ability to go + than Fusion Conscription, but it lacks too vital factors:
1. It's not a Spell, meaning it doesn't synergize with Factor
2. It doesn't let you search something to aid in an OTK

But you don't need the materials in this deck, unless you're in a bad position. Between Dog, Sheep, and Chain, you can generally always have enough resources to fuse/ways to fuse until you're going for a push. Chain's not as strong a point, but Sheep and Dog do.

You don't have "so many other ways". You have Furfusion off of Chain, and that's it. And Furfusion isn't guaranteed to be a play you want to make to continue devoting to set up for Factory.

Like, Rabbit isn't bad. In fact, it was good Pre-CROS. But between the fact that Cat fills a better niche NOW than Rabbit does, and the fact that Sheep exists, Rabbit lost a lot of selling points. It's a 1-of at most now, because 9/10 it's just a worse extra copy of sheep. You could run 2 Sheep 1 Rabbit, but even that's pushing it.