CommanderVolt Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 First strike Whenever Alesha, Who Smiles at Death attacks, you may pay {W/B}{W/B}. If you do, return target creature card with power 2 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped and attacking. So I pulled one of these the other day, pleased with it as Mardu is probably my favorite clan. But I am curious how well she does in EDH, as a commander and not. Also, apparently shes 19 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Are there good cards for Alesha to bring back in this format? 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Simping For Hina Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Only 19? Does that mean I have a shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 This goddamn card. I had the misfortune of staring down an Alesha in prerelease without a good answer. The first strike proceeded to hurt like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 One of the problems I see her having in Commander is that 3 power is pretty small so she'll need some help.Anyway, one of my personal favorite cards in the set. I love any and all graveyard cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 One of the problems I see her having in Commander is that 3 power is pretty small so she'll need some help. Anyway, one of my personal favorite cards in the set. I love any and all graveyard cards. Builds for her either go crazy hyper aggro, laying down a ton of guys, or they pull for the long game, capitalizing on her ability and creatures with ETB or sac effects to pull value. She doesn't quite possess the speed of Kaalia, but Kaalia can't create a handlock with Chittering Rats and a sac outlet so I would say it is a fair trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Doesnt mana thats a different colour to your commander automatically become generic? making her second effect un-usable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Doesnt mana thats a different colour to your commander automatically become generic? making her second effect un-usable?Alesha counts as a WBR card. The 'colour' of your commander is actually its colour identity, i.e. any colour of mana that appears within its text or mana cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokai-Red Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 There is also Tiny Leaaders where this thing is outrageously Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Alesha counts as a WBR card. The 'colour' of your commander is actually its colour identity, i.e. any colour of mana that appears within its text or mana cost. Wow never knew, thanks ^^ Also since its black, you could easily give it deathtouch because First Strike + Deathtouch = OPed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 There is also Tiny Leaaders where this thing is outrageously Good This has more to do with the fact that Alesha is the only available Dega Mardu commander in the format than her actual ability, though it is still very powerful. Cutting down to 3 CMC takes out some of her strongest combos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poc Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 This has more to do with the fact that Alesha is the only available Dega Mardu commander in the format than her actual ability, though it is still very powerful. Cutting down to 3 CMC takes out some of her strongest combos. Yea, Grenzo is probably better for a reanimator strategy. You lose access to white but Grenzo takes a lot less setting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Twenty imaginary internet dollars to the first person to construct Alesha Tribal Minotaurs for EDH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Twenty imaginary internet dollars to the first person to construct Alesha Tribal Minotaurs for EDH.Eh, is Alesha even that good for minotaur tribal? I mean, the only Mardu minotaurs with <= 2 power are:Anaba Spirit CrafterDeathbellow Raider *Felhide PetrifierGnarled Scarhide *Hurloon ShamanKragma WarcallerRageblood ShamanRagemongerand the ones in asterisks are definitely stretching it. I'd rather use Yore-Tiller Nephilim as the general and throw Alesha in the 99, alongside Minotaur Illusionist, Zedruu the Greathearted and Etherium-Horn Sorcerer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Eh, is Alesha even that good for minotaur tribal? I mean, the only Mardu minotaurs with <= 2 power are: Anaba Spirit Crafter Deathbellow Raider * Felhide Petrifier Gnarled Scarhide * Hurloon Shaman Kragma Warcaller Rageblood Shaman Ragemonger and the ones in asterisks are definitely stretching it. I'd rather use Yore-Tiller Nephilim as the general and throw Alesha in the 99, alongside Minotaur Illusionist, Zedruu the Greathearted and Etherium-Horn Sorcerer. The Nephilims aren't legendary. And at that point, it's probably just better to go to five-color anyway. I was looking at the picture for the longest time and thought "is that a dude?". In the official WotC article, however, while male-bodied, Alesha identifies as female, leading to an actually well-represented trans character, to help with better representation of LGBT characters in media. The card itself proves hilarious in Tiny Leaders Commander format, since a lot of good creatures for the format weigh in at 2 or less power. It even has three colors to avoid the Enemy Sword problem (although two ally colors also avoid the Enemy Sword problem). I don't think it has applications in regular Commander (then again, I don't believe aggro has a place in regular Commander). I'm not sure about French/Duel Commander or 60-card formats, but I'm leaning towards no on either of those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poc Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 In regular commander shes outclassed by Grenzo, He just takes less setup but you lose out on some white cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 The Nephilims aren't legendary. And at that point, it's probably just better to go to five-color anyway. The card itself proves hilarious in Tiny Leaders Commander format, since a lot of good creatures for the format weigh in at 2 or less power. It even has three colors to avoid the Enemy Sword problem (although two ally colors also avoid the Enemy Sword problem). I don't think it has applications in regular Commander (then again, I don't believe aggro has a place in regular Commander). I'm not sure about French/Duel Commander or 60-card formats, but I'm leaning towards no on either of those two. The majority of playgroups allow the nephilim to be used as commanders, duevto their uniqueness in-story and the fact they are the only 4-color cards. Also, what is this "enemy sword problem" you are referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 The majority of playgroups allow the nephilim to be used as commanders, duevto their uniqueness in-story and the fact they are the only 4-color cards.Also, what is this "enemy sword problem" you are referring to?I'd assume its the fact that the Swords of X and Y are REALLY powerful in the format. Makes sense since enemy color decks get screwed HARD by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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