Fire Emblem Fates

[Sethera]

Fire Emblem Fates leaves us with no seperate versions in sight, and let us jhope it stays that way

So I've got bad news for you... :(

 

"Two versions of the franchise’s new installment offer players an unprecedented choice: fight an opposing force or join the other side and try to make changes from within."

 

http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/hXWgVjsbNfclzVMbLlmn8cBdJYD9GVEE

[Shradow]

  

 

The animations are looking really nice.

[Blake]

Grrrrreat. DLC plot.

 

This is still not quite as dumb as ORAS, but it comes funking close.

[Shradow]

Ah well, nothing to do but hope they release some special edition that comes with both versions and perhaps some neat limited edition stuff. And if not, just buy both versions, I got no problems doing that.

[Sethera]

Ah well, nothing to do but hope they release some special edition that comes with both versions and perhaps some neat limited edition stuff. And if not, just buy both versions, I got no problems doing that.

 

This. I'm still holding out hope for some "deluxe edition" or something like there apparently is for Japan. I don't mind spending my all on that if I don't have to deal with the hassle of two separate versions. I mean, it's basically two games (wait no--three--two and a half since they share like the first six chapters?) so I don't mind paying two games' worth here like I would normally.

 

Also I need to watch the class trailers soon. Curious about what all the classes are, especially after seeing the "puppeteer" class earlier.

[Blake]

The difference between multiple version in Pokemon and multipl versions in FE are worlds apart.

 

You don't just lose access to some pokemon in-game, yet still have the means to trade for them. Oh no, you're restricted to half the cast, and get punishe for whichever path you choose.

 

Nohr? You don't get to grind in my castle, despite the game supposedly being designed to harder than the other.

 

Hoshido? You get the EXP, but you get a plot that lacks depth.

 

at least all three paths together should offer a good deal of replay value, though I get the feeling the end product will be 3 $20~22 value games bundled into an overpriced initial copy and then the DLCs at a slight discount.

 

Considering Prologue+6 chapters overlap between all three, that already removes the early game from each, which leaves less for each game.

 

Hopefully it's strong enough to warrant this.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

To me the main difference between Pokemon and this being different versions is that it's basically two entirely different games. Meaning I'm getting two Fire Emblem games to play, I'm quite happy with that.

 

And please stop saying the Hoshido plot lacks depth, we haven't SEEN the plot. (Put it this way, won't it be more emotional having to fight those who raised you, at very least?)

[Cosmo.]

Cosmo wants the class trailers too! Cosmo needs to know!

 

the Hoshido's plot doesn't seem depth lacking, have you seen some scenes of the trailer? Where Hoshido version Aqua has some kind of curse or very bad wound on her arm? That means some sheet went down for real

[Cosmo.]

The versions are called: Conquest (Nohr), Birthright (Hoshido)

HYPE

[Blake]

To me the main difference between Pokemon and this being different versions is that it's basically two entirely different games. Meaning I'm getting two Fire Emblem games to play, I'm quite happy with that.

 

And please stop saying the Hoshido plot lacks depth, we haven't SEEN the plot. (Put it this way, won't it be more emotional having to fight those who raised you, at very least?)

You can't make that comparison. Unless there are more than 20 exclusive chapters per branch and My Castle is expansive enough to cover, say, the post game content offered by the Tower of Valni and the Lagdou Ruins, they're not 2-3 full games. They're likely going to be 3 half-games. If they're not, wonderful. But the chances of them making 3 full games isn't very high, especially with the content shared between them.

 

And please stop saying it doesn't, when the company said such. I'm not making things up, I'm using their own words.

[Shradow]

Cosmo wants the class trailers too! Cosmo needs to know!

You mean the ones I posted on the last page or something else?

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

You can't make that comparison. Unless there are more than 20 exclusive chapters per branch and My Castle is expansive enough to cover, say, the post game content offered by the Tower of Valni and the Lagdou Ruins, they're not 2-3 full games. They're likely going to be 3 half-games. If they're not, wonderful. But the chances of them making 3 full games isn't very high, especially with the content shared between them.

 

And please stop saying it doesn't, when the company said such. I'm not making things up, I'm using their own words.

And how do you know that it isn't? I am fairly certain there will be at least 2 full games here, I honestly don't see any reason to think otherwise.

 

Show these words.

[Agro]

Nintendo hasn't been advertising the game as having two different versions, so I think it's pretty safe to assume they'll give us the two put together. They won't want it to run the same price as their Wii U games so I think they'll make it the same price SMTIV was when it released as a Special Edition-only back in 2013. $50 makes sense.

[Blake]

And how do you know that it isn't? I am fairly certain there will be at least 2 full games here, I honestly don't see any reason to think otherwise.

 

Show these words.

Why would there be? They are, at best, 24 chapters per route. They still share 25% of the game, as such. And 24 chapters is an unrealstic expectation. Not to mention how they still share My Castle, certain characters, and more, which further make it so that it should have been a single game as opposed to seperate. This just means they're setting themselves up for failure if they're not absolutely amazing, and they proceeded to put themselves even more in that hole by also changing many, many mechanics in the game. The latter isn't bad, but with all the changes and th natur of DLC Story, it's highly unlikely the value will be equal to that of 2-3 whole games.

 

They were stated in the interviews...? They said Hoshido wouldn't be a deep story, instead being a 'classic' black and white morality story, where Nohr would be based around a much deeper story about making Nohr better from the inside. You can't really argue that Fire Emblem as a whole has story depth, anyways, so if anything, Hoshido is the "Same ol, same ol" instead of an improvement, from how they sold it.

Nintendo hasn't been advertising the game as having two different versions, so I think it's pretty safe to assume they'll give us the two put together. They won't want it to run the same price as their Wii U games so I think they'll make it the same price SMTIV was when it released as a Special Edition-only back in 2013. $50 makes sense.

They officially stated the 2 versions in the post-E3 notes.

 

http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/hXWgVjsbNfclzVMbLlmn8cBdJYD9GVEE

[Shradow]

But even same old same old classic Fire Emblem is still quite good. It's not like the tried-and-true formula has suddenly turned to sheet.

[Blake]

But even same old same old classic Fire Emblem is still quite good. It's not like the tried-and-true formula has suddenly turned to sheet.

with the exception of 2-3 games, the plot is generally sheet

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Why would there be? They are, at best, 24 chapters per route. They still share 25% of the game, as such. And 24 chapters is an unrealstic expectation. Not to mention how they still share My Castle, certain characters, and more, which further make it so that it should have been a single game as opposed to seperate. This just means they're setting themselves up for failure if they're not absolutely amazing, and they proceeded to put themselves even more in that hole by also changing many, many mechanics in the game. The latter isn't bad, but with all the changes and th natur of DLC Story, it's highly unlikely the value will be equal to that of 2-3 whole games.

 

They were stated in the interviews...? They said Hoshido wouldn't be a deep story, instead being a 'classic' black and white morality story, where Nohr would be based around a much deeper story about making Nohr better from the inside. You can't really argue that Fire Emblem as a whole has story depth, anyways, so if anything, Hoshido is the "Same ol, same ol" instead of an improvement, from how they sold it.

How do you know this? I really don't understand where you're getting the idea they won't be full games. Just let me be optimistic. QQ

Especially as so far we really don't have a reason to thin there won't be at least 20 main chapters that are unique to each, which would be a full game.

 

Hmm. That doesn't mean that Hoshido won't have deep moments, and again, we still haven't seen it. As I said, at very least it's probably gonna be emotional when it comes to fighting your adoptive siblings. And honestly I don't see any problem, personally, with a classic story.

You just have a different opinion on plot than me and (apparently) Shradow. ^^;

[Shradow]

Honestly, Robin, the more you talk the more I think you're not actually a fan of the series. Like, criticism's fine but from you it's pretty much been an endless stream of an overly harsh attitude for a game that's not even out yet.

[Blake]

Honestly, Robin, the more you talk the more I think you're not actually a fan of the series. Like, criticism's fine but from you it's pretty much been an endless stream of an overly harsh attitude for a game that's not even out yet.

I mean, I'm not going to turn a blind eye to the flaws. I'm just pointing out flaws, and this one is full of things to point out. The fact that it isn't out does not, in any way, change the flaws presented, nor should you people insist the flaws aren't there, you in particular.

[Shradow]

Where have I said there weren't flaws? I don't think there's ever a time or place for Negative Nancies, but it's not like I think the game's perfect from what we've seen. Just because I don't have a problem with something doesn't mean I'd deny something as being a flaw if it is one.

[Blake]

Where have I said there weren't flaws? I just don't think there's ever a time or place for Negative Nancies.

And I don't think there's time for sheeple, which is what blind optimism is. I mean, hell, Cow just told me to let him be optimistic and didn't truly refute my observations, just looked at them wih optimism, which is totally fine. 

 

I even made a big post on the last page in defense of the games. Doesn't mean the flaws and gaming trends that make the flaws even more apparent aren't there. It's not 'overly negative', it's just not being wide-eyed and bushy-tailed.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

I'm just baffled because from what I've seen of it it's possible this might replace Awakening as my third favorite.

 

Also for those who haven't seen it

This is the first bit of the game (actual gameplay/plot stuff shown so spoiler warning)

 

 

Also excuse you? I did refute your claims, not my fault you disagree with my opinions. :T

[Shradow]

Call it blind optimism if you will, I just generally don't make huge complaints about something I haven't experienced first hand. When I play the game if I realize something's sheet, then that'll be that.

[Agro]

Tbh FE Plot doesn't matter as long as the gameplay and characters are good.

[Shradow]

That's what I've always found compelling in the series. Most of the games are along of the lines of, "Beat the evil kingdom attacking your homeland." or something like that, what makes it awesome is all the unique characters and how the games play.