NeoRWBY65 Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Holy... ...I have no words for how much I want this card in any of my decks lightning bolt or ghostfire (or whatever you want to call it) as a +2, exiling everything except colorless cards and face-down cards for a minus that varies in required loyalty, and an ultimate that is the exact opposite of Bolas... ...THIS IS AWESOME!!! (Also, unlike last time, this is from Magic's official website, so this is legit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Nice Christmas spoiler from Wizards. The anti-Bolas ultimate is really, really clever. People are casting Hornet Queen in format, so this seeing play is within the realm of possibility. The -X is pretty good by itself as a flexible Wrath effect. Fairly certain this is as good if not better than Perilous Vault in a lot of control decks. Just as exciting is that KtK fetches will be in Fate Reforged just as the shocks were in Dragon's Maze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 So that first Ugin wasn't all that far off. I love how it's ultimae reflects Nicol Bolas's, even though that made it worse in power since you gotta have a good hand. But, this is a colorless Planeswalker with a fucking board wipe attached to it, so I can't say this card is weak. Very nice. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Nice Christmas spoiler from Wizards. The anti-Bolas ultimate is really, really clever. People are casting Hornet Queen in format, so this seeing play is within the realm of possibility. The -X is pretty good by itself as a flexible Wrath effect. Fairly certain this is as good if not better than Perilous Vault in a lot of control decks. Just as exciting is that KtK fetches will be in Fate Reforged just as the shocks were in Dragon's Maze. Vault would still be better being live on turn 6 vs. this on turn 8. So that first Ugin wasn't all that far off. I love how it's ultimae reflects Nicol Bolas's, even though that made it worse in power since you gotta have a good hand. But, this is a colorless Planeswalker with a fucking board wipe attached to it, so I can't say this card is weak. Very nice. I like it. It helps that you draw the cards THEN put them into play. Anyway, seems really sweet. Not sure it will make it into standard at 8 mana, but I know I want at least 1 for EDH. This hits ultimate very fast, especially compared to more recent planeswalkers. Also, didn't catch that the ult is a light mirror of Bolas'. Also interesting to note, Bolas costing 8 means Ugin can't get rid of him right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Vault would still be better being live on turn 6 vs. this on turn 8. Only one of them actually leaves a threat that needs to be answered behind though. When your Wrath also doubles as a win con, it's probably better than Vault. Vault is actually pretty weak in the long term. It's played out of necessity, not out of sheer power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Only one of them actually leaves a threat that needs to be answered behind though. When your Wrath also doubles as a win con, it's probably better than Vault. Vault is actually pretty weak in the long term. It's played out of necessity, not out of sheer power. I feel like the UB control decks that would want this would still want the Vault though. This is certainly more powerful, but waiting even longer for the wrath seems undesirable. In all likelihood the decks will likely end up running a split of 1-3 in favor of Vault since having Ugin has a 1 of isn't that big an issue since you see so many cards and you never really want him in your opening hand. 2-2 is also a possible split. It is a harder sell for it to be a 3-1 split in favor of Ugin though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 I really want to try this is Mono U Tron! Tbh, it is better than Karn in the type of deck because of the ability against Aggro and Midrange. I will definitely not be worried about it being rushed, and i could slam it down. Might be worse than Sundering Titan, but worth it to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poc Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 If you resolve a Nicol Bolas PW before Ugin, Ugin can't kill Bolas, if Ugin is resolved before Bolas, Ugin gets killed by Bolas. A cool flavourful interaction there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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