Azuh Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by banishing 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monster from your Graveyard, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. During the turn you activate this card’s effect, you cannot activate other effects. (1) Once per turn: You can pay 1000 LP; send all cards on the field and in both players’ hands to the Graveyard, then inflict 300 damage to your opponent for each of your opponent’s cards sent by this effect. Nope. Still broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Effect or not, searchable 3k beater that's dead Easy to drop. They should have left it on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 OH MAN.... MY SIDES..... THEY..... THEY HARDLY TOUCHED IT XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hmm, tempted to make some sort of Chaos Infernoid with this. Main thing going on for it is that Infernoid's summon are cost instead of effect like the DRulers iirc, so you can summon this, nuke, then summon shit to win the game. Aside from that, this card's still a really potent sack card. Konami gotta Konami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Okay, let's see... It's a Nomi now, rather than a Semi-Nomi. It prevents you from using other effects in the same turn as its nuke. This is...a decent idea, but it's not going to change that much. And the actual nuking effect is still the same. You're still going to be able to attack and then nuke for massive damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 2 words. Wyvern Bulls**t. Doesn't matter if the opponent only takes damage for every card they have. Still exploitable as f**k. I literally backed away in horror as I found out what they did in OCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Wait, is this unbanned in the OCG now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 It'll obviously be played, but honestly it doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as people think it is. Obviously the upside is huge, but do people not realize how big not being able to basically use any other card is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Wait, is this unbanned in the OCG now? Yeah, it's going to @1 in the January OCG list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'm glad I don't play this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 It's obviously been hugely hugely nerfed and anyone who says otherwise hasn't read the card. That said, it isn't balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I mean...yeah, not being able to play cards is a big downside. But it can still swing for a LOT of damage off a topdeck, and it's unlikely you're opponent's gonna be able to kill you with no cards... IDK, it's not THAT broken, but it's till quite dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherries Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 The nerf is okay but the thing is still busted.You have to give them credit for trying though. They at least kept it as close to the way it was as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 The issue is that its still a lucksack card. At any moment you can just reset the field or have a 3000 beater. By the way, Melody of Awakened Dragon can search 2 of this card straight from the Deck at a discard. Now you can CED all day every day EDIT: I forgot it's coming back at limited but you can still add 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 By the way, Melody of Awakened Dragon can search 2 of this card straight from the Deck at a discard. Now you can CED all day every dayThis is proof that Kaiba runs Konami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Okay, let's see... It's a Nomi now, rather than a Semi-Nomi. It prevents you from using other effects in the same turn as its nuke. This is...a decent idea, but it's not going to change that much. And the actual nuking effect is still the same. You're still going to be able to attack and then nuke for massive damage. Also, you only burn your opponent for their own cards now. Rather than everyone's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 You know whats rather silly about the "You cant use other effects" part?It's like they KNOW there are people out there who play ghetto Chaos Emperor decks that run Black Pendant/Fuhuma Shuriken/etc for that added damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 You know whats rather silly about the "You cant use other effects" part? It's like they KNOW there are people out there who play ghetto Chaos Emperor decks that run Black Pendant/Fuhuma Shuriken/etc for that added damage. I'm thinking it also weakens any combos with cards that activate when they're sent to the Graveyard. Which may or may not include Sangan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I consider it a strong factor that I can no longer chain Interdimensional Matter Transporter to save it (or anything else) from the nuke, which was one of my favorite plays with this card back in the day. I understand the need of that effect, but still =( The card is definitely much less broken now though. Your opponent can still use effects this turn so the risk of them recovering faster than you is high enough with cards like Shadow Mist, Shaddoll Beast/Falco/Hedgehog/Squamanta, Dandylion, etc. I'm not saying conters are an excuse, but if this gets negated (Veiler, Breakthrough, Fiendish) does it count and stop the rest of the player turn or does it allow them to continue? That said, a non-destroying hand + field nuke option with any amount of burn included, for an easy DARK + LIGHT requirement, and a card that at the very least is a 3k beater, that is still very powerful to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 If the activation is negated, you can still use effects. If just the effect is negated, you cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANDAA BORUTO Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Now they still did it wrong. Because since you're dumping your hand, you can't activate other effects that turn anyway unless you have Bulb in the grave (it's legal in the OCG now). But why in the effin eff would you summon Bulb? Card is still bonkers. Thank heavens Yata is still banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Now they still did it wrong. Because since you're dumping your hand, you can't activate other effects that turn anyway unless you have Bulb in the grave (it's legal in the OCG now). But why in the effin eff would you summon Bulb? Card is still bonkers. Thank heavens Yata is still banned. You can normally activate cards before using CED's effect. With the errata, you CANNOT do that. If you activated cards earlier, CED can't nuke. You also could activate cards that activate when sent to the Graveyard. CED now says you can't. So if you're nuking, you're not going to get any potential card advantage back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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