Dark World Xyz Monster (Dyumon, Guardian of Dark World)

[Radiant F.U.R.Y.™]

2 Level 8 DARK monsters

Cannot be destroyed by battle. Any damage you would take from battles involving this card becomes 0. When an opponent's card or effect that would cause this card to leave the field is activated. you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; the effect of that card becomes "Your opponent discards 1 card" (This is a Quick Effect). When this card is targeted by a card effect controlled by your opponent while it has no Xyz Materials: Return this card to the Extra Deck

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

Wasn't this posted a while back?

Anyways, I don't think this is worth it.

All you get is a 2700 that can become a 3000 with Gates of Dark World, and can negate its own leaving twice before providing a meager once per Duel effect.

It doesn't stop your opponent from just getting a bigger monster, or suiciding with a 3000 ATK beater, of which there are plenty.

[Radiant F.U.R.Y.™]

what if i lost the once per duel clause and bumped the atk up to 3000 original atk?

[7-ink]

Of all cards, I see that only cards that negate with high ATK, attach as Xyz martial, equip as equip card can get rid of it. No use just overpowering it with ATK and destruction by effect require multiple use.

 

Divine Dragon Knight Felgrand, Silent Honer Ark, or similar card do well to get rid of it. Its be negated and plow over, became attached or equipped, except that one time it'll return to the Extra Deck.

 

Skill Drain works too, but that's for most situation already.

 

Overall, this card is a great card

[Gussion]

Feels a bit... Underpowered, actually. You should change it so the "once per duel" effect takes place when you detach Xyz Material. Great card, though!

[Radiant F.U.R.Y.™]

What about this?

 

ATK 2900 DEF 3000

 

2 Level 8 DARK monsters

Cannot be destroyed by battle. Any damage you would take from battles involving this card becomes 0. When an opponent's card or effect that would cause this card to leave the field is activated. you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; the effect of that card becomes "Your opponent discards 1 card" (This is a Quick Effect). When this card is targeted by a card effect controlled by your opponent while it has no Xyz Materials: Return this card to the Extra Deck.

[Gussion]

What about this?
 
ATK 2900 DEF 3000
 
2 Level 8 DARK monsters
Cannot be destroyed by battle. Any damage you would take from battles involving this card becomes 0. When an opponent's card or effect that would cause this card to leave the field is activated. you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; the effect of that card becomes "Your opponent discards 1 card" (This is a Quick Effect). When this card is targeted by a card effect controlled by your opponent [background=#fdfdfd]while it has no Xyz Materials: Return this card to the Extra Deck.[/background]

Yeah, that would be a lot better! :P

[Radiant F.U.R.Y.™]

BUMP

 

Updated effect and ATK to be more competetive...is it balanced, still? CnC always welcome!

[chaoticjexak]

it would give DW a decent 3200 with gates on field- as well as a possible grave target for gates if it ever leaves the field-since yer unlikely to bring it back unless you use gates. i would however say the level is a little offish- due to the only material usable being grapha, unless one also make a level changing DW or another lvl 8

 

aslo-what does the name mean? by DW standards it should be a colour

[Radiant F.U.R.Y.™]

it's diamond...and in case you're wondering, diamond is a color

 

its meant to be made of graphas...flavor wise, it makes sense. Carbon compresses through dif stages before becoming diamond...graphite is one of them. DW doesnt have a very hard time getting 2 graphas out, and this puts them into the grave anyway, when it detaches them.You can easily make 3 of this guy in a decent DW deck

[chaoticjexak]

makes sense on the colour thing :D so essentially its compressed graph lol. its also worth noting that graph can be easily recycled by returning a dw to the hand. now I'm no expert with tic- but if you truly wanted couldn't you return your xyz back toy the ExDeck work? for if thats the case it would be incredibly useful as you would have a recyclable xyz that you'd only need two of so as not to clutter the Exdeck… but if I'm wrong I'm wrong :3

[Progenitor]

I like the updated effect.  As much as I loath Dark Worlds, I was always surprised that they don't have a reliable way to activate their other effects that activate when discarded by their opponent.  This solves that as well as being a stupidly strong Rank 8 for them.

 

My only concern is, as mentioned, how strong this is.  If you are potentially playing this card right then you could be getting some seriously strong effects, and this thing as strong as it is is a bit disconcerting, seeing as Dark Worlds Can swarm ridiculously as is.  Maybe tone down it's attack or defense a touch?  I just want to avoid the Slippery Slope / Win-Moar mentality.

I like the updated effect.  As much as I loath Dark Worlds, I was always surprised that they don't have a reliable way to activate their other effects that activate when discarded by their opponent.  This solves that as well as being a stupidly strong Rank 8 for them.

 

My only concern is, as mentioned, how strong this is.  If you are potentially playing this card right then you could be getting some seriously strong effects, and this thing as strong as it is is a bit disconcerting, seeing as Dark Worlds Can swarm ridiculously as is.  Maybe tone down it's attack or defense a touch?  I just want to avoid the Slippery Slope / Win-Moar mentality.

^ Lol this is what I get for not reading a card fully.  But that actually makes me think.  What if the monster changed the effect to: "Pick one card in your opponent's hand at random; Discard that card"?  Like I said Dark worlds don't really have a way to do this.