bury the year Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 (credits to banner to Yui)[spoiler=An Introduction to EDH]This is a club/organization devoted to all things Elder Dragon Highlander (also known as EDH or Commander). EDH is a multiplayer format of Magic: the Gathering introduced back in 2004 by a panel of rules judges. The major rules of the multiplayer format are as follows. (1v1 rules may differ.)1) All decks must contain exactly 100 cards. A 10 card sideboard is optional.2) No non-basic land card may be used more than once, except where the card's ruling would say otherwise (ex. Relentless Rats).3) One of those 100 cards must be your "commander" or "general." The commander must be a legendary creature. Other legendary permanents that turn into creatures or sufficiently unique non-legendary creatures are legal at the discretion of the playgroup.4) The color identities of all other cards in the deck must not contain colors outside those of the commander's. A card's color identity is the combination of all colors of mana symbols in that card's mana cost and rules text. (For example, Ishkanah's color identity is green and black.)5) Players start with 40 life.6) Your commander starts the game in the command zone, from where it can be cast as per usual. If your commander would leave the battlefield at any time in any manner, you may instead choose to return them to the command zone. Each time a commander is cast from the the command zone, they cost 2 more generic mana for each time they have been already cast from the command zone in that game. (For example, if your commander is Azusa, she will cost 2G => 4G => 6G => 8G and so on.) This "command tax" doesn't affect being cast from one's hand, graveyard or library.7) A player loses if they accumulate 21 points of combat damage from any one commander over the course of a game.8) I am asking that you do not discuss cards from the leaked Ixalan foil rare sheet in here. There are a number of members, myself included, who wish to not spoil the set prematurely by discussing blurry, indistinct text. There are threads in the Other TCG forum in which you can do such.A more in-depth look at EDH rules can be found here. If you're still lost, here is a well-written article that covers much of the stuff that's been left out above.[/spoiler][spoiler=More Helpful Links]http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php - The official rules site for the format.http://www.reddit.com/r/EDH - The subreddit devoted to the game. Lots of good advice can be found here.http://www.tappedout.net - Probably the best tool the format has. This allows you to post decklists, look up others that people have created, and analyze deck curves and color ratios.http://deckstats.net/ - Another deckbuilding tool.http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh - MTGSalvation's subforum for the game. It has a lot of intriguing discourse about the format in general, as well as a large repertoire of decklists.http://edhrec.com - Input your TappedOut-hosted decklist here, and this site will give you a list of commonly-played cards you may have missed for your general.[/spoiler][spoiler=Club Rules and Stuff]1) Be nice. We're all here for the love of the game.2) When requesting to join, post your currently-run commanders and about how long you've been playing MTG.3) Don't just c/p your list here. Host it on TappedOut and link to it in your post.4) If you want to ask for feedback for a deck, make sure to at least talk about your gameplan, card choices, local metagame and max budget. This will help shape our recommendations.5) Respect other people's gameplay decisions and attitudes: even if you disagree with them, they may still be valid.6) Have fun![/spoiler][spoiler=Paper Banlist]Recently added cards are bolded. This list is only for the multiplayer format: the 1v1/French banlist differs. If you're looking for the online banlist, see below.Any and all cards banned in VintageAncestral RecallBalanceBiorhythmBlack LotusBraids, Cabal MinionChannelCoalition VictoryEmrakul, the Aeons TornErayo, Soratami AscendantFastbondGifts UngivenGriselbrandKarakasLeovold, Emissary of Trest (banned Apr. 24)Library of AlexandriaLimited ResourcesMox EmeraldMox JetMox PearlMox RubyMox SapphirePainter's ServantPanoptic MirrorPrimeval TitanProphet of KruphixProtean Hulk (unbanned Apr. 24)Recurring NightmareRofellos, Llanowar EmissarySundering TitanSway of the StarsSylvan PrimordialTime VaultTime WalkTinkerTolarian AcademyTrade SecretsUpheavalWorldfireYawgmoth's Bargain[/spoiler][spoiler=Online/MTGO Banlist]As of May 3, 2017, Wizards has officially sanctioned 1v1/Duel Commander as an online format. To this end, a unified banlist has been made for both 1v1 and multiplayer EDH. Please note that the following list only applies to games played on MTGO: any other client, such as Cockatrice or XMage, should be assumed to use the paper banlist unless stated otherwise.Ancestral RecallArcum DagssonBack to BasicsBalanceBazaar of BaghdadBiorhythmBlack LotusBraids, Cabal MinionChannelDerevi, Empyrial TacticianDoomsdayEdric, Spymaster of TrestEntombErayo, Soratami AscendantFastbondFood ChainGaea’s CradleGifts UngivenGriselbrandHermit DruidHumilityKarakasLibrary of AlexandriaLimited ResourcesMana CryptMana DrainMana VaultMind TwistMishra’s WorkshopMoatMox EmeraldMox JetMox PearlMox RubyMox SapphireNatural OrderNecropotenceOath of DruidsPainter's ServantProtean HulkRofellos, Llanowar EmissarySensei’s Divining TopSerra AscendantSol RingSurvival of the FittestThe Tabernacle at Pendrell ValeTime VaultTime WalkTinkerTolarian AcademyTrade SecretsYawgmoth's BargainYisan, the Wanderer BardZur the Enchanter[/spoiler][spoiler=Members]Current generals may be inaccurate.Rinne - Rashmi, Eternities CrafterGadjiltron - Thassa, God of the Sea; Nekusar, the MindrazerHanako Ikezawa - Maelstrom WandererRodrigo - Maelstrom Wanderer; Rhys, the Redeemed; Oloro, Ageless Ascetic; Prossh, Skyraider of Kher; Aurelia, the Warleader; Nekusar, the MindrazerKlavier - Feldon of the Third Path; Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerGokai-Red - Karador, Ghost Chieftain; Intet, the DreamerPoc - Ghave, Guru of Spores; Roon of the Hidden Realm; some random Boros guyGiga - Lavinia of the Tenth; Melek, Izzet Paragon; Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind; Narset, Enlightened Master; Krenko, Mob Boss; Zurgo Helmsmasher; Wydwen, the Biting Gale.Rai - Zedruu, the GreatheartedDae - Sharuum the HegemonVolt - Keranos, God of StormsRaeg - Aurelia, the WarleaderTalim Rave - Marrow-Gnawer; Arcanis the OminpotentShinki - Zur, the EnchanterTojin - Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath; Zurgo Helmsmasher; Doran, the Siege TowerSixty - Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper; Wort, the Raidmother, Isperia the Inscrutable, Mistform Ultimus; Teysa, Orzhov Scion; Experiment KrajYui - Marath, Will of the Wild; Krenko, Mob Boss; Omnath, Locus of Mana; Kaalia of the VastLucina - Merieke ri Berit; Teneb, the Harvester; The Mimeoplasm[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Allow me. Experience: Been playing in Standard since RTR. Commander Decks: Thassa Seafood, Nekusar Draw-Hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Wanna join! Been playing MtG since Mirrodin I believe, though it could well be before that. Commander Decks: Currently? Maelstrom Wanderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Added! To open dicussion, I posted an updated version of the Nin list I've been working on TappedOut, so any thoughts? I wanna incorporate Inkwell Leviathan and/or Mercurial Chemister.Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I'd actually leave Aftershock in there. Otherwise you don't have many options for spot removal. What I would cut is Steam Augury, the things you have listed minus Aftershock, and Shimmer Myr. Then add in Vedalken Orrery, Leyline of Anticipation, Rings of Brighthearth, Basalt Monolith, Clever Impersonator, Blasphemous Act, Deadeye Navigator + any creature you can blink that untaps more than two lands, this slot usually being Palinchron, and Capsize. You don't seem to be someone that is Anti-Stupid Combo, but if I'm wrong, take DENChron out of that list. But with Rings of Brighthearth and Basalt Monolith you have infinite colorless mana, which I'm sure you can put to tons of good use. Orrery and Leyline are better Shimmer Myrs that are harder to get rid of. Clever Impersonator is Phyrexian Metamorph 2.0 Capsize is just too good. Any infinite mana combo that makes blue (DENChron, Rings/Monolith/Lattice) basically means 'bounce everybody's board'. Blasphemous Act takes any token strategy and kills it with fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Definitely joining this. I've been playing Magic for three years and at the very beginning, I didn't have any aspirations as to actually build a Commander deck. But then, in 2012, Planechase came around again, and this guy was introduced: Needless to say, I fell in love. He has everything I like in Magic. Aggressive, huge body, able to win quickly by himself (don't even get me started on the combos these colors allow), and Cascade is probably my favorite mechanic ever, so much value to be had. It feels awesome when you reveal something along the lines of Frost Titan and Balefire Dragon in your cascades. My money isn't infinite, so I dropped Modern (the most played constructed format in my city) in order to work on this deck. Today, two years after I started building it, I own six decks (that are due to some updates still): Maelstrom Wanderer Rhys the Redeemed Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Prossh, Skyraider of Kher Aurelia, the Warleader Nekusar, the Mindrazer Now, Commander (multiplayer) is my favorite format, because it attends all my needs as a player: It's good for a collector like me, it's very fun, allows for very silly things to happen, and allows for a huge amount of combos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Then add in Vedalken Orrery, Leyline of Anticipation, Rings of Brighthearth, Basalt Monolith, Clever Impersonator, Blasphemous Act, Deadeye Navigator + any creature you can blink that untaps more than two lands, this slot usually being Palinchron, and Capsize. You don't seem to be someone that is Anti-Stupid Combo, but if I'm wrong, take DENChron out of that list.I'll try Basalt/Rings out, because they combo with Nin to force two players to deck out, but not DEN/Chron, as both of those cards are ones that are generally frowned upon in my playgroup.And Rod's been added! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 We really should schedule some multiplayer games for us on Cockatrice. My city's EDH playgroup is almost dead so I play very little. Weekends are usually when more people are available. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 We really should schedule some multiplayer games for us on Cockatrice. My city's EDH playgroup is almost dead so I play very little. Weekends are usually when more people are available. What do you guys think?I'd appreciate that, particularly because from February-June of next year I'm going to be working in Hong Kong and thus will be away from my normal playgroup. It would also give me an excuse to test lists that I'm working on (as long as people are willing to play to a similar level of competitiveness).With that said, timezones for people? I'm currently on EDT (GMT -4) but once I move I'll be on HKT (GMT +8}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I'm GMT -3, under daylight savings now. I'm 3 hours behind eastern Europe and 2 hours behind London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Experience: 3-ish years, since New Phyrexia. EDH nooblet though Decks: Feldon, Shirei, working on a few more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Added, Boing(?)!Also, made some quick updates to Nin. I only realized now that Rings of Brighthearth are ~$10, which is a mite out of my budget for a card that's primarily going to be a combo piece. Did make the following changes, though:- Argivian Restoration, Empyrial Plate, Faithless Looting+ Clever Impersonator, Hellkite Tyrant, Swiftfoot BootsAdditions to consider still: Blasphemous Act, Inkwell Leviathan, Mercurial Chemister, Vedalken Orrery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 You might know me as Klavier. Let's go with that alright? =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 You might know me as Klavier. Let's go with that alright? =PUhh, that works too. I'm not too familiar with how people's names change nowadays.Anyways, how does Feldon play? I know a friend in my playgroup was interested in using him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 My build is pretty meh-ish since I didn't spend too much time on it, but it basically loots and wheels through your deck, finding pieces and uses Feldon as a value engine to get something from all the discarded stuff. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-11-14-tDk-feldon-edh/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokai-Red Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hi, how is everyone!Experience: I've been playing for about...15 years or so...mostly casual, I can't get myself into competitive coz I'm poor...XDDecks: Karador, Intet, Formely Zedruu, Vizkopa Guildmage(Pauper) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Added! How does Intet play, btw? Tried to make a fun thematic list for a long time but eventually just gave up.Also, I'm thinking that if people want more discussion, maybe post up some decklists? It'd be nice to see where people think they could use some improvement. (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 We could start by my decklists them? I got 6 decks to improve :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 We could start by my decklists them? I got 6 decks to improve :3Sure. Where'd you like us to start, and what needs to be tinkered with there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I've worked quite a lot on the Wanderer deck, so it's pretty much perfect in the way I wanted it to be. But all the other decks are up for improvement. Maybe we can start with my Prossh deck, which is my favorite deck to play with bar Wanderer. Quick description of the deck: The main win condition is Xenagos + Prossh, which is an OTK (have Xenagos in play, cast Prossh, get 6 tokens, sacrifice all of them so Prossh becomes 11/5, go to battle and have Xenagos make Prossh 22/16 with haste). I'm not running a lot of tutors in the deck (because I only own one copy of each, i.e. Worldly Tutor is in Wanderer, Demonic Tutor is in Nekusar), so the combo isn't always the only way to win. I also run Purphoros which is backbreaking in certain conditions and cards like Blood Artist, that care about creatures dying. Above-average amount of ramp and the staple spells on Jund colors and we have the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 >Xenagos + Prossh I'M OUT I DIED TO THAT TOO MUCH IN MY LIFETIME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokai-Red Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Well here is my Intet List:http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-11-14-intet-edh/I might try to sort it better later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poc Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I've been playing since Innistrad, mostly modern for a competitive format. I'm reassembling my Ghave deck since someone at my LGS decided to bust out the Damia infinite combo deck with deadeye and Palinchon. I decided to fight fire with even more degenerate fire. Usually I play Roon flickerstuff or RW Sunforger-tron with whatever RW legend I choose for the game. For Prossh, as much as I hate that commander, Puphoros or Pandemonium will do some serious damage as well as Altar of the brood. Throw in a doubling season or something and shit gets pretty scary. Blood artist lets you get tons of damage from saccing your tokens too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Been Playing: about 3 years. Also played 7 years ago. Commanders: Lavinia of the Tenth (soldier tribal, my casual deck,) Melek, Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, Narset, Krenko, Zurgo, Wydwen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Poc and Giga, added.Rodrigo, Prossh looks pretty tight, but I'll have some suggestions up later. (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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