CLG Klavier Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuHdNA_zUec I decided to max out on Valkyrus since after a few tests, he showed how GOOD he is. He's probably the best turn 1 play to do into a blind matchup (Unicore is better if you know what are you up again, but he's still pretty smal.) Valkyrus is nigh-impossible to run over on turn 1, plus his Battle Fader effect is amazing at stopping whatever OTK your opponent might throw at you. Plus it protects Denko, and battle destruction is my main gripe against it. Yes, only 1 Clausolas. 3 clogged too much. Main problem I noticed with the common lists is that they're TOO consistent. They run a lot of tutors which later on are pretty much dead. You know how many copies of Mirrors my list runs? 4 Mirrors, 3 Manjus, 3 Senjus, 1 Clausolas. That's 11, and that's already a lot. But then there is Reinforcement of the Army to grab the Clausolas. Preparation for Rites which can get Clausolas or a Unicore to reuse a used-up Clausolas. Brionac can get either Clausolas or Unicore. You catch my drift? You already have a crapton of ways to tutor for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Only thing I wondered for now is how good the sole Releaser is. I don't have much knowledge about the deck, but I usually see it played with TGU, so I wonder which of the two way of playing it is effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Lavalval Chain was USUALLY enough for it. Deck can make Rank 4 Xyzs pretty consistently, and double Unicore/Unicore + Manju into Chain into Releaser for later Rituals is pretty good opening play in the matchups you won't need the turn 1 Unicore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Ah, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm putting Claus to two in my build, and I saw yours and Black's build, so I'm curious…how is two of Exo mirror working out? …I should probably hold off on anything major until SECE comes out. Valk is amazing, but I found 3 to be a bit much, considering he has quite a few ways of getting back in your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Mirrors are on a ok ratio, I have yet to lose a game due to not getting a Mirror. Though I agree on 3 Valkyrus being a tad too much, but I'll hold off my judgement until I test more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 You people are all building necloth wrong, you want 3 veiler, hands and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 You people are all building necloth wrong, you want 3 veiler, hands and stuff. …that won't work as well over here. Why would they want Veiler? Where do they have room for Veiler? Hands? Maybe in the mirror, but not at this point. Weren't you the one that said "OCG is very different from TCG"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 …that won't work as well over here. Why would they want Veiler? Where do they have room for Veiler? Hands? Maybe in the mirror, but not at this point. Weren't you the one that said "OCG is very different from TCG"? You can't even build Necloths in TCG.....cause THEY DON'T EXIST IN TCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 You can't even build Necloths in TCG.....cause THEY DON'T EXIST IN TCG They have a confirmed time and everything ffs. We're not playing in some pseudo format where we don't have shit announced for release, we know exactly when it'll be happening. Don't even bring up the ban list argument because it's not even valid. I'm pretty sure that everyone here is building for the TCG side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 They have a confirmed time and everything ffs. We're not playing in some pseudo format where we don't have s*** announced for release, we know exactly when it'll be happening. Don't even bring up the ban list argument because it's not even valid. I'm pretty sure that everyone here is building for the TCG side. Err no, Heros Strike is coming out. Stratos could be unbanned thus getting ROTA hit, you can't make a deck ignoring 1 of the 2 game changers in YGO...aka the Banlist...so stop playing some shitty as pseudo format and fangasming over three Rota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Err no, Heros Strike is coming out. Stratos could be unbanned thus getting ROTA hit, you can't make a deck ignoring 1 of the 2 game changers in YGO...aka the Banlist...so stop playing some shitty as pseudo format and fangasming over three Rota You're pretty much fucking implying that people shouldn't make decks because they don't prepare for ban lists. You make decks with what you can make them with at the time and THEN ADJUST THEM ONCE THE BANLIST IS ANNOUNCED That's like saying we don't run 3 tools in Qlips because he's going to get hit! What fucking pseudo format? RoTA could get hit, so fucking what? The deck will just get edited like any regular deck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 You're pretty much f***ing implying that people shouldn't make decks because they don't prepare for ban lists. You make decks with what you can make them with at the time and THEN ADJUST THEM ONCE THE BANLIST IS ANNOUNCED That's like saying we don't run 3 tools in Qlips because he's going to get hit! What f***ing pseudo format? RoTA could get hit, so f***ing what? The deck will just get edited like any regular deck! A lot can change in 4 months. You can run tool and all the s*** you want cause there is no banlist before nech and July. There is one between now and Tribeforce. But if you want to make s*** decks for the circle Jerk and giggles be my guest. ^ those deck are about to get raped by Heros Strike (with out without stratos) and Qliphorts even if you ignore the fact that ROTA has as much a chance @ staying @ 3 as CED has of returning. Now you can either stop being pretentious and realize the Meta when Necloths become TCG legal will be very similar to what OCG has in October (BA will get OCG Shaddoll Treatment) and subsequently realize that cards like Hands, Veiler, and Shared ride are amazingly good. Or you can keep flaunting your "TCG is king" shit and make a deck that is completely pointless. Your choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Whoa, whoa, whoa, calm your tits guys. I still disagree with TCG+OCG making sense as a format at all, and I won't allow it for my DN tourneys to come probably, BUT, as a thought exercise/casual play, it's pretty ok. Anyways: -1 Valkyrus +1 Decisive Armor Valkyrus was great, but tended to clog, plus it's reusable with Unicore. Meanwhile, I missed Armor a looooot of times, the boost effect is just so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Say, from testing, how's the extra deck lineup been working for you? Still pretty unsure myself on how should I run 'kroz's extra deck, so I wish I can get some input from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Decisive Armor: Brionac + Unicore Goyo: Unicore Herald: Unicore Clausolas: Clausolas Quasar: Brionac + Brionac, Valkyrus + Unicore, Trishula + Clausolas Stardust: Unicore + Unicore That's for the Synchro lineup, I've been comfortable with this since it covers pretty much every possible summoning combination unless I missed something. Rest of extra deck is just Rank 4s which are the easiest to summon, and a single Rank 6, 8 and 9 in case I manage to get double Trishula/Valkyrus/Brionac. Although you could cut those for the Quasar/Exa-Beetle thingy if you wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Err no, Heros Strike is coming out. Stratos could be unbanned thus getting ROTA hit, you can't make a deck ignoring 1 of the 2 game changers in YGO...aka the Banlist...so stop playing some shitty as pseudo format and fangasming over three Rota And that is exactly WHY ROTA won't be hit. Sales promotion. Konami does this ALL THE FUCKING TIME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Decisive Armor: Brionac + Unicore Goyo: Unicore Herald: Unicore Clausolas: Clausolas Quasar: Brionac + Brionac, Valkyrus + Unicore, Trishula + Clausolas Stardust: Unicore + Unicore That's for the Synchro lineup, I've been comfortable with this since it covers pretty much every possible summoning combination unless I missed something. Rest of extra deck is just Rank 4s which are the easiest to summon, and a single Rank 6, 8 and 9 in case I manage to get double Trishula/Valkyrus/Brionac. Although you could cut those for the Quasar/Exa-Beetle thingy if you wanted to. I think you have your levels mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Whoopsie, meant Brionac there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 And that is exactly WHY ROTA won't be hit. Sales promotion. Konami does this ALL THE f***ing TIME Stratos is comming back Whoopsie, meant Brionac there. I disappoint you play the fake shit format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 I disappoint you play the fake s*** format Eh...as I said, it's just thought exercise...plus, to be frank, only thing from this deck that might get hit any time is ROTA, and even then, that can be replaced with more Clausolases if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Eh...as I said, it's just thought exercise...plus, to be frank, only thing from this deck that might get hit any time is ROTA, and even then, that can be replaced with more Clausolases if anything. it's not what could get hit it's what could come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 I will adapt the deck to the meta to come obviously once we know what will it be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 it's not what could get hit it's what could come back jc. what could possibly come back aside from Heavy/Duster that would boost Necloths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 jc. what could possibly come back aside from Heavy/Duster that would boost Necloths?jc. what could possibly come back aside from Heavy/Duster that would boost Necloths? Heavy would boost, traps would hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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