CLG Klavier Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 You know those Burn and Jund decks, which were already heavily established and Tier 1? They're splashing for this. God help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 BGw and burn are splashing it, not Jund. Jund and pretty much all other non-treasure cruise decks are out. Burn and UR Delver have taken over the format. I expect a ban with how dominating this card is and has become. It is literally Cruise vs. Bad decks. This card allows late games to only be a good thing and a turn 3 cruise is way too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-daily-2014-10-29Tonymontana's 3-1 deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hey there Ancestral Recall, how you doing these days? Still broken? Alright, cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-daily-2014-10-29 Tonymontana's 3-1 deck Okay. One deck. Edel did the same thing. Still doesn't change anything about it. Yes, I under Jund splashing it. Dark Confidant sucks right now. BGw did the same thing one time. Most of them are switching over to BUG anyways. Like I said, "Play Treasure Cruise." But, seriously, don't try to say "Jund is using it." Like people tried to do with Prophetic Flamespeaker. One deck means s*** for any relevant information. BG splashing for it is more common ground for what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 ....which is just RUG Delver? This is literally UR Delver + Tarmogoyf. UR Delver is the number one deck being played right now, so make the deck better against the mirror match. Ctrl + F "Tonymontana" Yay ninja edits. Yeah, one deck, but it's happening. Heck, it starts from "one deck". But Burn and Delver are everywhere, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Editted when I read it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Edited as well xP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 I know. The card isn't being splashed in UR Delver, though. Like I said, it is making those decks too good. It will receive a ban. 4-5 color burn, who knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yeah, people quickly figured that Threshold Ancestral Recall, even at sorcery speed is still pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Are we talking about Modern decks in this topic? How is a COMMON doing so well anywhere other than standard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted November 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Because rarity =/= power level? ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 My question is this: would there be any mana cost to make this type of card (aka: delve + draw N cards) acceptable, or was a delve draw spell busted before it even was finalized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 How is a COMMON doing so well anywhere other than standard? Hey, Delver of Secrets is a common. Don't diss the surprisingly efficient commons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 My question is this: would there be any mana cost to make this type of card (aka: delve + draw N cards) acceptable, or was a delve draw spell busted before it even was finalized? I think N being two would have kept is a fair bit more fair. Though even that would have had a chance of being busted at 7U. Maybe 8U or 9U. Either way, this will be banned, and odds are Jeskai Ascendancy and Dig Through Time are also likely to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poc Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Are we talking about Modern decks in this topic? How is a COMMON doing so well anywhere other than standard? Draw 3 for one mana is pretty darn good Ascendancy is not getting banned, people are over the hype for it and realize it's just another t2-1.5 combo deck. Cruise might get the ax though, when a card takes over the format it's usually going to end up magic jail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Ascendancy is not getting banned, people are over the hype for it and realize it's just another t2-1.5 combo deck. Cruise might get the ax though, when a card takes over the format it's usually going to end up magic jailWizards has said that they want Modern to be a turn 4 format, and Ascendancy breaks that rule with turn 2 kills possible and turn 3 kills pretty common. Its unlikely that it stays around.Between the amount of centralization Cruise has had on the format and the fact that Preordain and Ponder are too good and this is likely better I see this getting the boot too.I think the more interesting card is Dig since it is more powerful than Cruise, but the extra mana is a significant limit to its power. Personally I think it will go as well, but this is certainly more debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Ascendancy is a card I don't see being banned because people have adapted to the deck and it is just so fringe once you know how to play the matchup. Griselbanned could literally win on turn 2, but is glass cannon. Hell, Infect has goldfish wins on turn 2 before. It means nothing because there are no results keeping up. Look forward to Madrid, though, for a better understanding of what I am saying. DTT is a much better card, but not for UR Delver or Burn; So it doesn't matter. Control decks and Combo decks utilize DTT more because of its reliable ability to still be good when you cast it for 4. Burn and UR Delver don't have that luxury since they can hardly remain to have 4 lands in play, which want to be more proactive than reactive anyways. DTT is in no means unfair, though. It deserves to stay as it boosts Control amazingly without being oppressive. Snapcaster UR Delver uses it, but that isn't put up enough results to matter. BGx can't support UU all that well, either. DTT will never be as oppressive as Treasure Cruise ever will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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