Dr Heinz Doofenshmirtz Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 For generations, philosophers have asked, "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" The answer - by the way, OBVIOUSLY - is of course it does! I mean, dah!, right? Philosophers!... Get a job, thinky-boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Physically speaking, it does not make a "sound." When it falls it will of course make sound waves, as anything does, simply from the vibrations of hitting the ground. However, for those waves to be considered sound, they have to be heard by someone. It is not a sound until the sound waves are registered by a creature. That of course being said, if an animal is around when the tree falls, it did make a sound, because the animal heard it. But if there is no living creature around, although sound waves were created, a sound was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Heinz Doofenshmirtz Posted October 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Actually, a sound is being defined more closely as being something that can be heard. When a tree falls, the noise can indeed be heard. That doesn't mean it is everytime, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazara Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 TREES FALLING IS IRRELEVANT. PHILOSOPHY IS IRRELEVANT. YOU, DOCTOR HEINZ DOOFENSHMIRTZ, ARE INCREDIBLY IRRELEVANT. YOU ARE NOT EVEN WORTH THE EFFORT IT WOULD TAKE TO CONVERT YOU INTO A MINDLESS SERVITOR. IF A TRAINED MONOTREME CAN DEFEAT YOU, WE DO NOT SEE WHY WE SHOULD EXPEND ANY OF OUR ENERGY DEALING WITH YOU. THIS EXCHANGE IS OVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arawn Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 The question is not whether it makes a sound, But whether we can blame the event on BEARSBEARSBEARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 But can it? How do we know, if we are not there??? In actuality, it both makes a sound and does not make a sound. SCHRODINGER, B*TCHES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andx Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 But can it? How do we know, if we are not there??? In actuality, it both makes a sound and does not make a sound. SCHRODINGER, B*TCHES *whispering* Pssst, Giga, the Schrodinger's cat example is meant to show the absurdity of applying quantum physics principles to the macroscopic world. Probably best to not make your points off of it. And with commentary on physics in a thread about talking to philosophers I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Silly Andx, didn't you read? He's not talking about Schrodinger's Cat. He specifically mentioned "Schrodinger's Bitches". A much, much less well known experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andx Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Silly Andx, didn't you read? He's not talking about Schrodinger's Cat. He specifically mentioned "Schrodinger's b****es". A much, much less well known experiment. Ooooohhhhhh. Wait... >"Schrodinger's b****es" We talking the typical sense of the word humans use or the one that might make me more interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Both. The answer is both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andx Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Both. The answer is both. I'll have to research and recreate this experiment then. Thank you kindly for informing me of it. Anyway, this is more than I intended for this thread so to continue the philosophical debate: What is sound anyway? What does it mean to hear? How can we know if we really hear anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 (Disclaimer, I rarely really know much of anything.) The thing is, we don't know for sure. We can have no way of knowing the truth, in reality. Because even if we're sure of something's existence, it doesn't make it truly fact. For instance, we all think we know what a dog's bark sounds like. But, what if what each person hears as the sound of a dog's bark is different from everyone else? For all we know, the next person could hear a dog bark as the sound of a cat to you. Well then why does everyone make the same noise? Because that's the noise you hear for it. So there's no way to tell a difference. Basically, there is no way of saying truly what sound is, where it comes from, and if what we hear is what is true. Because...there is no true meanings in the grand scheme of things. Only what we interpret as the truth, which can change over time. (What am I even talking about anymore? I have no idea...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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