Spinny Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Hi guys, Latest Version...... Old Version.... Criticism is welcome. Ideas of taking things out must have a vague idea of what to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I feel ghost of a grave should be pushed to side, due to it being dead early on in some matchups. Could easily replace with 2 breakthrough skill, a thing this deck seems to be lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Ok, fair point, last game i went against shaddolls and drew it l8 and it bought me 3 turns but SB is equally as useful. I still lost ofc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Plus breakthrough is very good in the shaddoll match, negating midrash so you can shenanigans. Also, since your side is kinda empty, I recommend debunk. Sweet card in general, good in floater format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Done Also guys, im thinking about taking penguin out (Or atleast to 1) and changing some things so i can pendulum summon more, not sure how though or if its a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 insant fusion and noden do not mix well with DDs. Needs more Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon You only need 1 DD Synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Keep in mind, I know nothing of the deck, so all my critique is format-based. I feel like you want to have an abyss dweller in this deck. You are running dark hole and raigeki, so floaters are a potential issue, and you can even get it to 2200 atk with noden. I recommend cutting either phonon (is it relevant?) Or highlander (is it relevant?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 You only need 1 DD Synchro. HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED WITH DDDS? Seriously though, they spam that synchro like its Glow-up-bulb no joke ive made it twice in 1 turn b4 and gone straight into Big Eye and it happens often. Phonon was in there because of theory, he is easily replaced ill admit, abyss dweller will go in at its expense. insant fusion and noden do not mix well with DDs. How positive are you on that? Because ive found it really useful :P (It can re-use them dead night howlers and liliths) But Odd-eyes dragon is ummm really only got 1 valid target that i have at 3 because it searches for early game Hellgate..... Why would i want to search a searcher, especially when its for next turn? Added ancient fairy dragon because it could work well with temujin and alex. Updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Hoooray ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 3 Leonidas, 3 Kepler 2-3 Proud Ogre (Scale 8 is really good paired with Leonidas) 2 Lilith 1-2 Cerberus 1-2-3 Night Howling 1 Galilei 2-3 Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon That should be your monster line-up. I shouldn't have to explain the first two. Proud Ogre's a Scale 8, which makes it optimaal for spamming DDs and Odd-Eyes. Lilith's not bad, but it's no 3-of. Cerberus is really not that good, and it's only good for desperation searchers. Still it's an 1800 NS, so... Night Howling's restriction hurts. It really shuts you down. You do not need more than 1 of the Synchro, because you really shouldn't be focusing on the fiend-only turns with Night Howling. All you need in Level 7 Synchros are Moonblossom, Chaos King Archfiend, and Alexander @1 each. You can also run Leo, if you so desire, because Night Howling is a vanilla tuner when revived. Moonblossom helps out a lot, Chaos King is good for getting over Beaters, and herp Alex. If you're expecting Synchros, Dark Highlander also exists. Galilei's good, but only as a recyclable 1-of. It's scale is honestly shit, because of its restriction shutting down odd-eyes and slowly gettign worse. Same for Kepler, but he's a RotA. You ONLY want to set them in extreme circumstances. Odd-Eyes is a searcher for Galilei/Kepler that can be spammed back for Rank 7/OTKing. Enough said. You need to run 3 Upstart Goblin, One for One, and Book of Moon. One for One is extra Kepler, Upstart digs your deck, and Book of Moon is jsut a really good card. For traps, all you really need is 2-3 Vanity's Emptiness, Torrential, Compulse, Solemn, Bottomless, and something else. Personally, with Qliphorts existing and Kepler's vulnerability, I'd say 3 Threatening Roar. I also wouldn't run Noden, because LP is extremely Valuable, and the ED Space is tight. It's not bad, I just didn't care for it that much in the deck, because it almost always feels like a worse draw than something else. ED needs to be: 3 DDD Temujin 0-1 Leo 1 Moonblossom 0-1 Black Rose 1 Chaos King 1 DDD Alexander 0-1 Dark Highlander 1 DDD Caesar 1 Castel 0-1 Exciton 0-1 Abyss Dweller 1 Dracossack 0-1 Gaia Dragon 1 Big Eye 1 Ptolemy 1 Gauntlet Launcher 0-1 Photon Strike Bounzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dom- Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Probably stupid question: what's the monster on the left of Cerberus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I main them. You only need 1 Alexander. Its okay to have a second as a backup, but you only need 1. Running 3 is a big no. Alexander isn't this really big part of the deck as you think it is. Odd-Eyes searches Galilei and Kepler, as well as being a powerful level 7 that can be summoned through Proud Ogre or your ideal scale of Leonidas/Ogre. This is important because Galilei helps you dogde things but Galilei shouldn't be run at more than 1. This is because it is ridiculously easy to recycle it. Ninja'd. God Damn you Black. 2 Night Howling and Lilith forms a pseudoloop (Howling summons Lilith, Lilith adds the other howling, tune into level 7, rinse repeat). Here is my build. It most certainly isn't optimal (still tinkering with it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dom- Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Probably stupid question: what's the monster on the left of Cerberus? (double post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Better? Thanks Banjo Btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Probably stupid question: what's the monster on the left of Cerberus? Guard Penguin. Rio used it. Its like a second Leonidas, but its not really good here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 DDD resource management is good in-theory but it never works how you plan it to so i took them all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 DDD resource management is good in-theory but it never works how you plan it to so i took them all out. I never have bad luck with it. Its all dependant on your experiences, I never seem to draw it until I can actually use it properly. and as such, I never felt I had to dock it. as for recruit (know you didnt ask about it, but w.e) is there for free recycling, but you can severely plus off it if your opponent starts spamming, but I generally use it to recycle MST'd Covenants before I could get Temujin out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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