Rodrigo Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Holy shit I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Sorin SuperFriends. My new casual deck, let's go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I didn't catch that it was until your next turn, figuring it was just until EoT. That makes the +1 a fair bit better. Still, the power here is in the -2. His ultimate is also pretty underwhelming, but hitting it fast is a plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poc Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 This guy would be pretty fucking strong in B/W tokens. They love their anthems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokai-Red Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Wait Why, wtf is Sorin Doing here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted August 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Wait Why, wtf is Sorin Doing here? Â Ugin, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 The -2 is good but you can only use it twice. In the end you probably are just going to pay 4 mana for 2 2/2 Flyers at Turn 5. Not quite sure if that's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 The -2 is good but you can only use it twice. In the end you probably are just going to pay 4 mana for 2 2/2 Flyers at Turn 5. Not quite sure if that's worth it.Why would you just use the -2 unless you need the protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Why would you just use the -2 unless you need the protection? Â Because his ultimate is underwhelming, and his +1 is situational. I wouldn't spend 4 mana for lifelink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Because his ultimate is underwhelming, and his +1 is situational. I wouldn't spend 4 mana for lifelink.His +1 isn't situational in the type of decks you would use him in. BW Tokens literally always has a creature on bored after any sweeper because of Flashback and instant speed. It is helpful and could be Blank.His ultimately only seems underwhelming because of it only taking 3 turns to use. Don't expect it to be a constant game winner when you're not putting any effort into using it. The -2 is a safety gray zone at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 For my tastes, he's way too similiar to Lord of Innistrad =/ Â First 2 abilities are again some mix of +1/+0, lifelink and Vampire tokens. Â And ultimate is underwhelming. While most ultis read pretty much "you win the game" or "you're damn close to winning the game", this one seems...weak. Don't get me wrong, it's not BAD, it's just so easy to ignore/play around/get benefits from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 For my tastes, he's way too similiar to Lord of Innistrad =/  First 2 abilities are again some mix of +1/+0, lifelink and Vampire tokens.  And ultimate is underwhelming. While most ultis read pretty much "you win the game" or "you're damn close to winning the game", this one seems...weak. Don't get me wrong, it's not BAD, it's just so easy to ignore/play around/get benefits from.   I can see it. I think their is enough of a difference when you look at how other planeswalkers have changed between cards, but I can totally see where your coming from.  A lot of recent ultimates have been more on the underwhelming side imo. I mean, looking over the newest walkers we have Ashiok, Xenagos, GW Ajani, and Sarkan all with pretty meh ultimates themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Ashiok is a control/midrange killer. Xenagos ends games by putting a bunch of fatties on board. Ajani gives you 100 life, which can be dealt with, but it's a nice pillow for following turns. Sarkhan's ultimate isn't meh at all, it's 3 cards to work with every turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Ashiok is a control/midrange killer. Xenagos ends games by putting a bunch of fatties on board. Ajani gives you 100 life, which can be dealt with, but it's a nice pillow for following turns. Sarkhan's ultimate isn't meh at all, it's 3 cards to work with every turn.  Ashiok's ult is only good against control imo, and it still doesn't win you the game. Hell, if you were able to keep him around for him to ult your likely to have already had a good shot at winning anyway.  Xenagos can REALLY easily miss. Even with a deck of 50% creatures your getting around 3, and you can very easily get 3 crap ones.  100 is never exciting, especially since his other 2 abilties are really solid.  His ult will still cost you your hand before it can get you any advantage. And its only 2 more, so the advantage isn't much more than the 1 guy a turn from the opponent.  While I can certainly see the arguement that this is worse than those 4, this really has been a trend with walkers ults becoming less and less game winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014   I wouldn't spend 4 mana for lifelink. Right so erebos's whip is crap In your opinion...what an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Right so erebos's whip is crap In your opinion...what an idiot.  Whip isn't played for the lifelink it grants. Thats just gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I know but you dont just play a planeswalker and only account its usablility by its +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I know but you dont just play a planeswalker and only account its usablility by its +1. Â Well it's a good thing I accounted for its -2 and ultimate as well, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 He's not far off from Lord of Innistrad, but regardless he's going straight into my Teysa EDH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I know but you dont just play a planeswalker and only account its usablility by its +1. His first post was about his -2 though, just saying >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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