Βyakuya Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYT2aWavXlc x1 Zephyros x2 DD Lilith x3 DD Howling x2 DD Cerberus x1 DD Galilei x3 DD Kepler x2 Leonidas x1 Allure x3 Covenant with Hellgate x2 Covenant with Swamp King x1 D-Hole x1 Foolish x2 Lance x2 Instant Ramen x2 MST x1 BTH x2 CotH x1 Compulse x1 Covenant with Dark Witch x3 Lease Laundering x1 Solemn x1 Torrential And the side is filled with extra stuff and normal anti-meta stuff, the regular nooks and crannies. Revised deck now since Leonidas has finalyl came to us. Cnc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Furk the deck... WTF did I just watch...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 3 Lease Laundering is WAAAYY more than what you need imo. You should be relying on Leonidas (a 3-of, btw) about not dying. Dunno if Call and Noden are any good here, at least in my build monsters don't hit the Graveyard often enough for them to be worth it. Could probably use more Proud Ogre (if it is on DN yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 3 Lease Laundering is WAAAYY more than what you need imo. You should be relying on Leonidas (a 3-of, btw) about not dying. Dunno if Call and Noden are any good here, at least in my build monsters don't hit the Graveyard often enough for them to be worth it. Could probably use more Proud Ogre (if it is on DN yet). Lease Laundering IMO is a decent Reckless Greed-ish card to run, especially as a sort of bait/chain material whenever a Covenant or it gets targeted. Since I have Instant Fusion, it would be better for me to gain more pluses since it is often hard for things like Lilith to hit the Grave when I don't have Swamp King. Instant Fuse does help to revive Lilith or Kepler, and it gives extra fodder for Rank 4s if Howling is not available. CotH works similar. It might be an extra Cost but I jsut want the pluses from as much sources as possible, starting by getting a little DDs out on the field. Proud Ogre is on DN in fact. I miht consider it since I run CotH, but Proud Ogre seems a bit obscure, and I might not run it for now. I'll test it eventually, but for now, what are your th Furk the deck... WTF did I just watch...? Old School music video and an awesome song. oughts on +/-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 From what I know, Leonidas is the best card in the deck. Why not max it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Lease to one. Very meh card. And I am going to go with the others and say leo to 3. I dont even know what it does, but these guys make it seem good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Lease to one. Very meh card. And I am going to go with the others and say leo to 3. I dont even know what it does, but these guys make it seem good... Leonidas will SS itself when you take Covenant burn and heal it back. While it is face-up, you will never take Covenant burn or any other burn damage. I will try getting rid of 1 Lease and put and extra Leo. Leo has already shown a good amount of strength by easily having it searchable by Hellgate, but if it means consistency and backup then I guess it wouldn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/320648-a-dddreadful-force/ Just so I have to type less. Leonidas is undeniably a 3-of. It's a card you want to have early, as opposed to searching it which is less than optimal, and it keeps your Covenants from killing you. It's a great pendulum scale (3) on a Level 7 2600 Body. All of these stats are absolutely great, meaning it can Rank 7 as well, which comes up a lot of games. Running 2 means they can dispose of them and force you to take burn to the face. Odd-Eyes is a 2-3 that does basically what Kuribandit does but better, because it also gets Galilei to help you protect boards. Hell, I've won games by dropping Galilei on an ED DDD to screw their Shaddoll Fusion over. Protecting Kepler is also more optimal than searching another because it allows you to set up the grave for later Lilith plays and have a recyclable Wind-Up Rabbit. Can also enable you to set Kepler as a scale and then bounce it back and NS it. This deck doesn't want to mill, anyways, as it would much rather use its capabilities to set up the grave than randomly put Leonidas/Keplers in there to never return, so to speak. Tehy can return, but it takes some effort. One for One is essential and Dark Hole's terrible in the main right now because it doesn't do anthing, while 141 lets you hit Kepler sooner/ Lease Laundering is winmoar as all get out and doesn't adequately cover this weakness. It's not searchable or recurrable, unlike Leonidas. It's just an all around worse Leonidas and a -1. DDD Resources is better than this, and I can't even find space for it. Proud Ogre is an 8 Scale that lets you PS non-DDs. That's all that it needs to be a selling point, because this makes Odd-Eyes infinitely stronger in the deck, and double damage steals free games. The effect is just a cherry on top. Allure's only good in bad hands and would be better as basically anything else. Everything else is covered where I linked, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/320648-a-dddreadful-force/ Just so I have to type less. Leonidas is undeniably a 3-of. It's a card you want to have early, as opposed to searching it which is less than optimal, and it keeps your Covenants from killing you. It's a great pendulum scale (3) on a Level 7 2600 Body. All of these stats are absolutely great, meaning it can Rank 7 as well, which comes up a lot of games. Running 2 means they can dispose of them and force you to take burn to the face. Well everyone else has convinced it, so that is a given. Odd-Eyes is a 2-3 that does basically what Kuribandit does but better, because it also gets Galilei to help you protect boards. Hell, I've won games by dropping Galilei on an ED DDD to screw their Shaddoll Fusion over. Protecting Kepler is also more optimal than searching another because it allows you to set up the grave for later Lilith plays and have a recyclable Wind-Up Rabbit. Can also enable you to set Kepler as a scale and then bounce it back and NS it. And now you're saying that Kepler/Gallilei are more important than thought because of their Pendulum use. As far as I have used DD/DDD, Pendulum was no big concern and I never really needed to do it at all, but if this is to maximize the potential of Kepler and Galilei, then I might consider. Whereas where I am, Galilei never really used to the poitn where I could just discard it totally. This deck doesn't want to mill, anyways, as it would much rather use its capabilities to set up the grave than randomly put Leonidas/Keplers in there to never return, so to speak. Tehy can return, but it takes some effort. Instant-Fuse/Call mostly supports Kepler and Lilith but is Bandit really that bad? Before Leonidas existed on DN, milling was a necessary means to use Lilith, which was waht the deck revolved around at the time, and to search Covenants. One for One is essential and Dark Hole's terrible in the main right now because it doesn't do anthing, while 141 lets you hit Kepler sooner/ Might as well consider; D-Hole indeed is getting pretty unnecessary considering the format wouldn't allow self-destruction of your monsters. Lease Laundering is winmoar as all get out and doesn't adequately cover this weakness. It's not searchable or recurrable, unlike Leonidas. It's just an all around worse Leonidas and a -1. DDD Resources is better than this, and I can't even find space for it. If you have this say then I'll follow you on this one and place Lease @0. DDD Resources was never really necessary for me but since you're suggesting Pendulums... Proud Ogre is an 8 Scale that lets you PS non-DDs. That's all that it needs to be a selling point, because this makes Odd-Eyes infinitely stronger in the deck, and double damage steals free games. The effect is just a cherry on top. Maybe running 1 Proud Ogre or 2 would settle it. Otherwise in my deck it wouldn't cut out. Allure's only good in bad hands and would be better as basically anything else. Definitely true; It's always painful banishing Kepler, Bandit, or Lilith. Everything else is covered where I linked, I think. I might as well make a different set of DD/DDDs that centers around Pendulums. For now, Reiji.dek Part before Pendulums is what I'm goign for, with the natural Extra Deck spam shenanigans. But your build is worth taking a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I might as well make a different set of DD/DDDs that centers around Pendulums. For now, Reiji.dek Part before Pendulums is what I'm goign for, with the natural Extra Deck spam shenanigans. But your build is worth taking a shot. That's... not what I said ._. I said that Kepler and Galilei are useful to search. Kepler is best as a stratos, but Galilei lets you pendulum with it if you must by immediately retrieving it. Call of the Haunted and Kuribandit seems like a really bad engine in a deck that doesn't want to fill the grave. Even Noden feels iffy, but it does make 7s once a Night hits the grave... but Pendulum plays take precedence most times, and Night's an "oh look i drew a good card" a lot of games. 2-3 Proud Ogre is fine, but it allow you to spam advantage out every turn and not care what the opp does. an Infernal/Leo/Proud setup means they need multiple cards (Like Castel + Dire Wolf_ to screw you over, instead of one, because whatever they kill is the wrong answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 That's... not what I said ._. I said that Kepler and Galilei are useful to search. Kepler is best as a stratos, but Galilei lets you pendulum with it if you must by immediately retrieving it. Call of the Haunted and Kuribandit seems like a really bad engine in a deck that doesn't want to fill the grave. Even Noden feels iffy, but it does make 7s once a Night hits the grave... but Pendulum plays take precedence most times, and Night's an "oh look i drew a good card" a lot of games. 2-3 Proud Ogre is fine, but it allow you to spam advantage out every turn and not care what the opp does. an Infernal/Leo/Proud setup means they need multiple cards (Like Castel + Dire Wolf_ to screw you over, instead of one, because whatever they kill is the wrong answer. Well honestly, I never really used Kepler or even Galilei for that matter, but as long as Kepler as you said is treated more liek a Stratos then Pendulum Summons can be fully utilized. So pretty much cards like Math and Bandit are pretty non-ideal it appears. I'll keep Instant Fusion for testing; It gives access to Lilith or rarely Kepler, and does create room for Level 7 Synchs or Rank 4s. Now that you mention it, it can use Lilith or any other DD as tribute fodder for Ogre, then you get to SS Kepler from teh Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Ogre SSs from the ED and negates its effect. Best use if you have to NS it (which I do on occasion w/dead Keplers) is to get back an Odd-Eyes or Leo if you can't Pendulum that turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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