Blake Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZs5POCp0I 3 Mathemetician3 Shaddoll Beast3 Shaddoll Falcon3 Shaddoll Hound2 Majesty's Fiend2 Shaddoll Hedgehog2 Shaddoll Lizard1 Shaddoll Dragon1 Zaborg the Mega Monarch3 Shaddoll Fusion2 Forbidden Lance1 El Shaddoll Fusion1 Foolish Burial3 Facing the Shadows3 Shaddoll Roots2 Breakthrough Skill1 Bottomless Trap Hole1 Compulsory Evacuation Device1 Solemn Advice1 Solemn Warning1 Torrential Tribute3 El Shaddoll Nephilim2 El Shaddoll Midrash2 El Shaddoll Shekhinaga1 El Shaddoll Egrystal1 Arcanite Magician1 Armades, Keeper of Boundaries1 Black Rose Dragon1 Goyo Guardian1 Moonflower Rose Dragon1 Gagaga Samurai1 Lavalval ChainHound gives the deck a lot more ability to straight up gain advantage. Hound + Facing is on par with Falcon + Facing in a situation by situation manner. And unlike Falcon, Hound doesn't conflict with Midrash once it's up.Ratios aren't completely solid, though I'm mostly speaking in ED and tech terms. Wanted to try GGG Samurai, and I feel like Egrystal is... Subpar in most matchups. I know it's good v Qliphoth, which is why I'm considering negging something for a second, but only after I test a bit.Shekhinaga's been absurdly important in the few matches I've played thus far. She's just a good sized body that does something after summoning, beyond Neph's single mill. Neph's mill is amazing, but pressuring the opponent into using advantage to get through Sheki or bide time really seems to push people into a corner.I don't really like Dark Renewal. When it resolves it really shifts the advantage, but I feel it's only live when I'm in a good position (aka Midrash and stuff) or I have Facing the Shadows. Otherwise it's just a dead card. It feels really winmoar, and I never liked it in testing before NECH was completed. Nothing in the deck really changes that post-full NECH. Not being a card I can flip post-summon doesn't help it, either, as it dead draws hard when it wants to.where do I fit Star Eater for ultimate space jew repelling. I mean I guess i could cut GGG Samurai, but I wanna test it and see if a bit of easy damage helps the deck out, especially on a Shekhinaga fodder body. I mean, I used Exciton to make Nephilim in older builds like that a few times, just because easy to drop LIGHT.Also wanna test Solemn Advice, because, in theory, it should be usable in a deck whose backrow is largely chainable and who barely uses LP. It's not really a resource here. Can also help against Qliphoths, at least on paper.I think that's everything I wanted to say.Trying to avoid Noden for the time being until it's at least fully OCG legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 You should add dat Summoner's Art and Ancient Rules for MisairHow's Mega Zaborg been testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 You should add dat Summoner's Art and Ancient Rules for MisairHow's Mega Zaborg been testing?Haven't drawn it yet, just seems good on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Aren't 3 Nephilims in the ED too much? Did you often need the 3rd copy in your tests? No 3rd Lizard for more deck thinning? How has Dragon at 1 worked for you? In my opinion it would be good to run at least 1 more copy because it deals with monsters that cannot or want to be destroyed. But I guess with Hounds it shouldn't be difficult to recycle it, at least in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 aren't 3 Nephilims in the ED too much? Did you often need the 3rd copy in your tests? No 3rd Lizard for more deck thinning? How has Dragon at 1 worked for you? In my opinion it would be good to run at least 1 more copy because it deals with monsters that cannot or want to be destroyed. But I guess with Hounds it shouldn't be difficult to recycle it, at least in theory. I said I'm the op I'm still working on ed ratios 3rd lizard is unnecessary, as you only need it for t1 plays and/or milling roots later on. No. Dragon is the worst doll of them all because backrow removal is mediocre and the flip effect is just okay. In a game state full of chainable backrow in the form of Facing the Shadows and such or no backrow at all, it'll screw you more than help most games where you'd rather it be any other card. You can side more, but you only really main 1 to stop qliphoths tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'd cut 1 Nephy for star eater so you can kill la killer, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I said I'm the op I'm still working on ed ratios 3rd lizard is unnecessary, as you only need it for t1 plays and/or milling roots later on. No. Dragon is the worst doll of them all because backrow removal is mediocre and the flip effect is just okay. In a game state full of chainable backrow in the form of Facing the Shadows and such or no backrow at all, it'll screw you more than help most games where you'd rather it be any other card. You can side more, but you only really main 1 to stop qliphoths tool. Yes. I read that you were still working on the ED, that's why I asked first if you have actually needed the 3 Nephilims during any of your tests, rather than straight out suggesting you to remove 1 on them for, let's say, the Star Eater that you want to fit in. And I had the idea Dragon was among the better Shaddolls because it could counter Midrash in the mirror, bounce Deltatheros, etc. but it seems I was wrong. Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a bad post Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Can ask the purpose of Majesty's Ruler, I might be missing something, but it seems very counter intuitive to Deck since doesn't it negate the effects of most of the Shaddoll monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Can ask the purpose of Majesty's Ruler, I might be missing something, but it seems very counter intuitive to Deck since doesn't it negate the effects of most of the Shaddoll monsters? You drop it when you're in a good position over the opponent to seal the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 -1 Shaddoge +1 El Shaddoll Fusion I find myself wanting to hit the fusion faster and that, while really good at times, Shaddoge can dead draw a bit because its send effect isn't an inherent advantage gaining effect like the other dolls. Still better than lolA/D Changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a bad post Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 You drop it when you're in a good position over the opponent to seal the deal. Makes sense. -1 Shaddoge +1 El Shaddoll Fusion I find myself wanting to hit the fusion faster and that, while really good at times, Shaddoge can dead draw a bit because its send effect isn't an inherent advantage gaining effect like the other dolls. Still better than lolA/D Changer. Took me a minute to figure out Shaddoge. Also, thoughts on D.A.D in this Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 DAD is only worth it in the OCG because they have 2 of it to go with the Chaos/Math engine. It's not good here in the TCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 So if Neph is Ragyo, is Midrash Satsuki? Also how has Samurai been doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 So if Neph is Ragyo, is Midrash Satsuki? Also how has Samurai been doing?Midrash is Nui, sillyI negged it for Exciton. LIGHT nuke > EARTH damage output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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