Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 [spoiler=Deck List] Monsters: 22 Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon x2 Entermate Trampolynx x2 Qliphoth Tool x3 Qliphoth Archive x3 Qliphoth Genome x3 Qliphoth Disk x2 Qliphoth Shell x2 Yamata Dragon Caius the Shadow Monarch x2 Raiza the Storm Monarch x2 Spells: 8 Summoner's Art x3 Pot of Duality x3 The Monarchs Storm Forth x2 Traps: 10 Bottomless Trap Hole Torrential Tribute Compulsory Evacuation Device Solemn Warning Breakthrough Skill x2 Wiretap x2 Pendulum Back x2 [/spoiler] Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Personally, I'd run no more than 3 of the combination of Caius/Raiza. Though, if you think you're not seeing Tool enough, try Odd Eyes Pendulum Dragon at 1-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Personally, I'd run no more than 3 of the combination of Caius/Raiza. Though, if you think you're not seeing Tool enough, try Odd Eyes Pendulum Dragon at 1-3. I've actually been pretty good at snagging Tool, thanks to Summoner's Art, but another tool for Tool wouldn't hurt. Any other suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I've heard good things about Kuraz. Can force your pendulums into the Extra so you can Activate others and Special SUmmon the destroyed ones back, while letting you draw, or get rid of the Continuous Monarch support so you CAN special SUmmon from the Extra. Also, you might as well fill your Extra with Rank 6s and 7s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I've heard good things about Kuraz. Can force your pendulums into the Extra so you can Activate others and Special SUmmon the destroyed ones back, while letting you draw, or get rid of the Continuous Monarch support so you CAN special SUmmon from the Extra. Also, you might as well fill your Extra with Rank 6s and 7s. Why? I can't Special Summon anything but Qliphoth monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Why? I can't Special Summon anything but Qliphoth monsters. It's better to have stuff in the rare instance you DO need them, than to fill your extra deck with joke cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 It's better to have stuff in the rare instance you DO need them, than to fill your extra deck with joke cards. But the circumstances under which I would have multiple monsters of the same Level, but not have Pendulums, are virtually inconceivable. I honestly cannot really think of a scenario in which I would need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 But the circumstances under which I would have multiple monsters of the same Level, but not have Pendulums, are virtually inconceivable. I honestly cannot really think of a scenario in which I would need them. Like I said, any instance that would occur without help (Such as from Kuraz? I dunno) is very rare, but it's better than having cards you LITERALLY can't use. I'd rather have something that would help in 1 out of, say, 50 duels, than something that would NEVER help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Anyway, try double Skill Drain. I believe DevPro has ruled it to reset your Qliphoth's ATK even when they're SS'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Anyway, try double Skill Drain. I believe DevPro has ruled it to reset your Qliphoth's ATK even when they're SS'd. Ooh. But is it worth it for them to lose their immunities from monster effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 You need a card that allows your opponent to look at your Extra Deck. For obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 So, anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Felgrand? Alsei? Bounzer? M7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Felgrand? Alsei? Bounzer? M7? Again, why? I can't use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 you can't use any of the fusions either Because on the tiny chance that someone uses MalCat or Full House or some form of multiple destruction attempting to mess you up and you have 2 monsters of a matching level, you can go into an Xyz and still continue to apply pressure to your opponent. Like if you're gonna fill the extra with shit at least make it look good instead of random plot device fusions/synchros. Oh speaking of fusion, Chimeratech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 you can't use any of the fusions either Because on the tiny chance that someone uses MalCat or Full House or some form of multiple destruction attempting to mess you up and you have 2 monsters of a matching level, you can go into an Xyz and still continue to apply pressure to your opponent. Like if you're gonna fill the extra with s*** at least make it look good instead of random plot device fusions/synchros. Oh speaking of fusion, Chimeratech? Who uses Malevolent Catastrophe or Full House? You're really stretching to try and provide a scenario in which I would need to Xyz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Who uses Malevolent Catastrophe or Full House? You're really stretching to try and provide a scenario in which I would need to Xyz.Um... What? Full House has been a common side for ages. And MalCat is a tech in Facts that wins games, albeit a bad one. You're really stretching to refuse to build the deck optimally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Let me use a metaphor, and we'll see if it helps you understand it better. Let's say, just as an example, you are forced to add 1 of Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon, or (Insert Level 5+ Normal monster with bad stats here) to your deck. BESD is completely useless. No use. Terrible. ALWAYS a dead draw. That Level 5, though...In some extraordinarily rare instance, you might be able to, say, tribute one of your monsters that is disabled from attacking (Fiendish Chain? i know nobody runs it atm but bear with me) and attack for game with it. Which would you choose? Just replace BESD with joke extra, and The Normal monster with an Extra of rank appropriate Xyz. Also, Black's point is very valid as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Um... What? Full House has been a common side for ages. And MalCat is a tech in Facts that wins games, albeit a bad one. You're really stretching to refuse to build the deck optimally. But what about the fact that Xyzs don't recycle the Pendulums? They stay in the Graveyard when detached. So you just lost 2 of your crucial Tribute fodder that require even more workarounds to get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 But what about the fact that Xyzs don't recycle the Pendulums? They stay in the Graveyard when detached. So you just lost 2 of your crucial Tribute fodder that require even more workarounds to get back.If you're making Exciton Or 101 Or Castel You needed to make those cards, and it's either you were going to lose anyways or you instead had a shot at winning because you didn't neglect an extra. And this is why Trampolynx is a good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 If you're making Exciton Or 101 Or Castel You needed to make those cards, and it's either you were going to lose anyways or you instead had a shot at winning because you didn't neglect an extra. And this is why Trampolynx is a good card. But now I have 2 less Qliphoths to Pendulum Summon and Tribute for other monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 But now I have 2 less Qliphoths to Pendulum Summon and Tribute for other monsters. And if you didn't make those cards YOU LOST ANYWAYS =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 And if you didn't make those cards YOU LOST ANYWAYS =/ But I don't want this to be an Xyz Deck! It's a Pendulum/Tribute Summon Deck, not another stupid cookie-cutter Rank 4 spam for game deck like everyone else has! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 But I don't want this to be an Xyz Deck! It's a Pendulum/Tribute Summon Deck, not another stupid cookie-cutter Rank 4 spam for game deck like everyone else has! ITT havin the option to rank 4 is an Xyz deck Lemme go tell Shaddolls and Yang zing they're Xyz decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 ITT havin the option to rank 4 is an Xyz deck Lemme go tell Shaddolls and Yang zing they're Xyz decks But you keep saying that summoning Xyzs is such a necessity. Why are you suddenly saying otherwise? What deck is this supposed to be?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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