New Custom Cards Moderator(s)

[Blake]

Speaking from experience, it is nearly impossible to handle that section as a single moderator. I only had a bit of help from my co-moderators in the early days, and it was actually just hell to work on with all the reports that come in when the rules are actually being enforced.
 
As it is, Zextra does not adequately enforce the rules. I don't care if he says he has it under control, he clearly does not. The quality of RC is the lowest it has been in years, and the section seems to have taken to Official Card Grammar being the most important facet of a card's design, for some absurd reason.

I don't think Zextra's a bad mod, but he's not the mod the section needs. It needs someone who's actually going to have time to police it, which is why a very active pair of mods was always chosen.

This nominee(s) would need to have a grasp of the gamestate/design as well, so as to be a sufficient leader in the section. If they know less than the average RC goer, who's going to take them remotely seriously? I nominate myself.

I say the people should vote for, say, a week as to the top 2-3 people they think they deserve the position, in order. It's how Koko and I got elected, and while you can say we might have had issues outside of RC, you cannot say we didn't do our best with RC most of the time.

So I'd propose to PM a designated mod votes for members that they think card design, activity, and knowledge of the game stand out the most for. Of course, whoever the top 1-2 are would have to accept, but the system desperately needs some hands on attention and love that it currently lacks.

[Tourmaline]

Weeeell...

 

Before any sort of planning is made out on a level of planning, do you have any idea in terms of who you would personally nominate as is?

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Zai and I talked about this a bit ago. Evilfusion would be good for the job, if he isn't already too busy with TCG/OCG section.

 

or Toyo

[Greiga]

I nominate Black because he's one of the best players and because you can trust him to be so ruthless only the good strong card makers/reviewers will stay here.

[Blake]

I nominate Black because he's one of the best players and because you can trust him to be so ruthless only the good strong card makers/reviewers will stay here.

Besides, I more meant in a PM to the mods than here.

[J-Max]

As I mentioned in the Status Bar earlier, I am still learning a lot about the game itself but in terms of keeping the section under control, I can manage that. Past experiences or no, I did a pretty good job keeping CC under control and also revolutionized Pop Culture :P

 

Not bragging here of course and you are welcome to ignore me but the offer is always there if needed.

[Greiga]

Besides, I more meant in a PM to the mods than here.

Who's gonna be the mod who looks at votes? Or should we just PM any super mod?

I skimmed the first post and forgot you modded this place but I don't really have much options of active members to chose from.

[Toffee.]

If they know less than the average RC goer, who's going to take them remotely seriously? I nominate myself.

So... More or less, a large number of TCGers could apply for this then? I mean, a handful of YCM's 'regulars' have a fair share of TCG knowledge, so it's not like it would be THAT damaging if anyone of them knew a little less then someone else.

[Zextra]

Thanks, Black, for posting this. Over the past few months, while dealing with personal issues (and only being able to access YCM briefly each day), I have not been as active as I should be, and I have definitely not been on enough to appropriately keep the section in working order (as I have essentially just been dealing with the daily reports), so for anyone that this has upset or bothered, I apologize. So with that said, having help with the section is definitely a priority that would be much appreciated.

 

As for my own activity, things should clear up by late August, so hopefully by then I will be able to contribute more as an actual active moderator rather than someone who just drops in and deals with the little things.

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

I nominate Black because he's one of the best players and because you can trust him to be so ruthless only the good strong card makers/reviewers will stay here.

 

Dude, the point is to have someone who will enforce the quality of the section in a way so that newer/inexperienced members learn and improve, not just to drive them away from the section entirely with a shotgun shouting "GET 'OFF MY LAND!"

 

Agreed that Black is one of the most knowledgable and... er... honest, people around here when it comes to the TCG.

 

Um... no idea who to nominate for this, but if I think of anyone then I'll PM supers.

[Not-so-Radiant Arin]

Dude, the point is to have someone who will enforce the quality of the section in a way so that newer/inexperienced members learn and improve, not just to drive them away from the section entirely with a shotgun shouting "GET 'OFF MY LAND!"

You know, it's those same exact newer/inexperienced members that don't ever want to improve that just end up being a plague on our forum anyway, why not get rid of them from the start?

[Night]

Firstly, it's pretty vague as to whether or not you're asking for Zextra to be replaced with new mod(s) or merely to promote new mod(s) to assist him. 

I personally see no reason whatsoever to replace him, even if he's only slightly active he's still a benefit to the forum. Even if it means having more mods than needed. Plus the only reason reason to demote him besides inactivity is if for some reason trust was an issue, I personally believe that's far from the case. 

 

In regards to who will be chosen and how it'll all be conducted, that's in discussion in the mod forum but I'm open for suggestions. 

[Blake]

Firstly, it's pretty vague as to whether or not you're asking for Zextra to be replaced with new mod(s) or merely to promote new mod(s) to assist him. 
I personally see no reason whatsoever to replace him, even if he's only slightly active he's still a benefit to the forum. Even if it means having more mods than needed. Plus the only reason reason to demote him besides inactivity is if for some reason trust was an issue, I personally believe that's far from the case. 
 
In regards to who will be chosen and how it'll all be conducted, that's in discussion in the mod forum but I'm open for suggestions.

Not saying he needs to be replaced, just that he's done his job less than adequately. Of course he has a reason, so I'd not propose him to be stripped.

Just saying do something like when Koko and I were elected.

Josh/Icy announced it, everyone sent votes in to him for the top 3 they thought would be good mods, he tallied the votes, and then we were promoted to Damage Control (because no mod promotion abilities yet back then). Thus Koko and I, as the top two, were promoted to help Josh out, seeing as his former two assistants,ovely CC and Alfred, had dropped off the face of the planet.

3 CC Mods seems optimal, IMO, because it means someone should almost always be able to tend to it.

[Tourmaline]

How heavy is TCG in comparison to CC purely for moderating purposes?

 

If an individual is keen enough on the game to be promoted to the moderator of the TCG section, rather than struggling to find a new moderator, perhaps a TCG moderators could loosely moniter the CC section. 

[Blake]

How heavy is TCG in comparison to CC purely for moderating purposes?
 
If an individual is keen enough on the game to be promoted to the moderator of the TCG section, rather than struggling to find a new moderator, perhaps a TCG moderators could loosely moniter the CC section.

It's not, but an individual qualified to mod TCG/Decks =/= qualified to mod CC.

CC requires a knowledge of card design in addition to that knowledge of the actual game. TCG really just needs a nanny to make sure it's not killing itself most days, whereas CC actively needs a leader (or 2 or 3) to whip it into shape and lead people to improvement. The Advanced Clause being enforced is a part of this, though it's not all that's needed. Even a section like showcase, which is similar in purpose to RC, is something that can survive on its own better. It CAN be bettered, surely, but CC has a lower entry level to showcase 9/10 due to the fact it's the /purpose/ of the site.

[Not-so-Radiant Arin]

In a perfect world, evilfusion would be more than competent at the job. However, this is not a perfect world, and we don't want to throw off the balance of having one moderator look after multiple sections.

 

Although, we could just promote him to head admin...

[Tourmaline]

It's not, but an individual qualified to mod TCG/Decks =/= qualified to mod CC.

CC requires a knowledge of card design in addition to that knowledge of the actual game. TCG really just needs a nanny to make sure it's not killing itself most days, whereas CC actively needs a leader (or 2 or 3) to whip it into shape and lead people to improvement. The Advanced Clause being enforced is a part of this, though it's not all that's needed. Even a section like showcase, which is similar in purpose to RC, is something that can survive on its own better. It CAN be bettered, surely, but CC has a lower entry level to showcase 9/10 due to the fact it's the /purpose/ of the site.

 

While an individual qualified to moderate one section is not necessarily qualified to run another, there are still people who would be capable of moderating both. If such individuals are questioned in terms of if they would be willing to take up said responsibility, it may even be a hidden boon that we were not initially searching for.

 

So then you certainly require people with that education in terms of card design. That being said, if we were to exclude current moderators, what kind of selection of members would you say there is who then qualifies for the position using your criteria? Is it more than one or two members? 

[Blake]

There's only one mod I'd half consider to take over as a CC mod in addition to their current charge. The only mod to show any interest in this section bar Zextra.

I can think of 2~3 other members, bar Koko and Caeda/Self-promoting I'd put up, but there's not too many.

[Tourmaline]

*Sigh.*

 

I saw your post in that status update.

 

While this idea is good for the state of the forum in theory, changes can only be made in practice. The members you mentioned should be summoned and asked on how they feel about moderating or we should look deeper into current individuals who are lurking more than posting....

 

I would personally like to help in some way, though this game is not something I spend as much time on as I'd like....

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

I thought Yankee was helping out with CC stuff when he came back? Guess he's busy...

 

Anyway. I agree that Zextra could be doing a better job with keeping CC in line, but he provided a reason for not being here at times which is understandable. In any case, he could use help to keep things in order while he's away with personal matters. At times, Yin has had to come in CC to deal with some of the posts within the section; however mainly for general stuff: Necrobumping and behavioral issues. Stuff related to Advanced Clause and CC-specific things; not so much.

 

This may explain why Toyo created that rant thread in RC yesterday. There have been members who've only been posting OCG fixes lately (or just agreeing with another user and not offering much, if any, of their own opinion). I won't name specific people though [OCG has some importance so we know how said card is supposed to be working, given the new PSCT format, but it should be focused on balance/how it affects the game]. Some of the comments in there aren't very helpful to the card's creator (nothing that can be fixed in the card or some general oversight on why [card name] affects the game).

 

That being said, if we are getting new mods for the CC section, they should encourage people to improve and make sure the Advanced Clause or whatever other rules that exist there are obeyed. In essence, as Bahamut already mentioned, whoever gets chosen should encourage improvement in newer (and to an extent, veteran) members to improve their craft and make sure the rules are obeyed like they're supposed to. Knowing something about the metagame/whatever happens in the TCG is necessary to make sure you can run the place, that much is certain.

 

If a new member doesn't want to improve their works (and that is the case with some of them), then there is not much that can be done with them, aside from suggesting they go post in Any Other Cards or ignoring them completely. Being hard-line with them accomplishes nothing, except alienating newer members. Keep in mind that some members don't pay attention to the metagame (or in essence, they play casually); checking the TCG forum from time to time may help with that, but it's only a temporary solution.

 

Black, I respect you for having a vast knowledge of the TCG and being honest with your opinions, but you do have a tendency to use a fair amount of explicative language/being harsh. I'm not trying to offend you (if I am, I sincerely apologize), but that's what has been noticed in some of your posts at times. I'm not trying to say that any new staff should be babying the section [as it'll make things worse than they are now], but only that they should keep the section in line (keep flame/spam wars down, encourage improvement in cardmaking, etc) and be approachable/friendly, but not turn RC into a dictatorship. In short, firm but fair.

 

As for any candidates I would nominate for CC mod, there are a couple members who I think contribute well to the section (Gadjiltron is one of them, since he's given a fair amount of CnC/fixes to threads within the section from what I've noticed; even some of the stuff within Pop Culture). Regardless, you need to ask if they want to be given the responsibilities of managing 5-6 subforums.

 

On a personal level, I'd like to help out in some way to the best of my abilities. Granted, my knowledge of the metagame isn't as high as it should be, due to spending time on other things (but I do have a decent understanding about what's happening).

[Not-so-Radiant Arin]

ROFL YANKEE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING

 

that just made my day

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

I asked him if he was still moderating CC when he made a return status a few months back; he replied that he was.

But he hasn't really been seen doing much lately, so as Black already mentioned, Zextra's pretty much managing the whole place on his own.

 

As you mentioned though, evilfusion would be a good choice to keep an eye on the place but not sure if he'd like to take it over (also factoring in what Black said regarding how to keep TCG in line and what needs to be done for custom cards; criteria is different).

[Blake]

I mean, I doubt the mod team would remod me after the show pika made anyways, so I'm definitely not trying to get modship myself. If a fluke got me reelected I'd take it, but I just want better for the section.

[Nathanael D. Striker]

I'll get a more detailed post in tomorrow when I'm on my laptop, but I'd like to say a few words. In all honesty, we cannot as members expect a single mod to handle the stress of their job on their own while we just sit idly by expecting them to magically make things better. Members should step up for the betterment of CC and YCM as a whole. Mods, while having an abundance of power and influence on the forum, cannot simply change something and have it be a success or see it last. Us members have to step up and take the initiative. Somethings we have to do ourselves in order for them to get done or at least get noticed. That involves interacting with the mods and helping come up with ideas with them that could better our overall experience here. I think that is the point that people tend to miss. We can do things without modship. It just takes passion and effort in order to see it through. I'm not saying we don't need another mod to help Zextra with CC, I'm just saying that us members need to step up as well. If we don't, then we shouldn't expect things to change and we'll all continue to moan and complain about the poor quality of YCM as a whole. And that is my rant for this evening.

[Blake]

So you're complaining that members aren't taking a stand when there's only 1 mod running the section....

Have you even read this thread or RC?

Passion and effort are bullshit when there's no driving force behind it to make it work. Without mods actually enforcing things, like the woefully under enforced Advanced clause, nothing will change.

Your post was nothing but hot air, so please either contribute more than a mock rant or don't post.