Static Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 What would people run if all the Meta stuff was banned? Seriously, PC would still be somewhat dead, and all the OTK's would be crap. Fifth Gadget isn't great to start off with, I mean, seriously, what the hell would people run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Who cares about Fifth Gadget? Seventh Gadget has always been infinitely superior. A perfect banlist would have Malicious at 3, Raiza at 3, and Disk Commander at 3. The weak part for PCM is that it would ban Treeborn Frog, Premature Burial, and Monster Reborn (but would legalize Call of the Haunted). There are plenty of options on a perfect banlist. I've always thought that Ratbox would be pretty awesome on Atem's, but Atem's isn't perfect; by his own admission, he could make a better one. I'd need to see a perfect banlist to see what would be good on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Who cares about Fifth Gadget? Seventh Gadget has always been infinitely superior. A perfect banlist would have Malicious at 3' date=' Raiza at 3, and Disk Commander at 3. The weak part for PCM is that it would ban Treeborn Frog, Premature Burial, and Monster Reborn (but would legalize Call of the Haunted). There are plenty of options on a perfect banlist. I've always thought that Ratbox would be pretty awesome on Atem's, but Atem's isn't perfect; by his own admission, he could make a better one. I'd need to see a perfect banlist to see what would be good on it.[/quote'] I thought it would be something like a Stratos Toolbox/ratbox, but whatever, eventually, once we see perfect, something will appear more broken than the other stuff, and it will keep changing and probably won't ever be settled. We have a long way to go in terms of perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfmvrocks Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 There's no such thing as a perfect ban list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Everything is limited. It'd make Yugi proud. Don't you want to make Yugi proud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Everything is banned. It'd make Duke Devlin proud. Don't you want to make Duke Devlin proud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfmvrocks Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 There's no such thing as a perfect ban list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Hey man, kill it more. Yeah, k, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfmvrocks Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Actually, Yugi runs 2 Skilled Dark Magician and 2 Magician's Valkyria in the Pyramid of Light movie, or so the Wiki tells me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 if a perfect banlist arrives... new metas will form... obviously people will find OTK's that work in every single banlist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 if a perfect banlist arrives... new metas will form... obviously people will find OTK's that work in every single banlist Of course OTKs will still exist. They'll just require more and more cards, making them a lot harder to pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Monarchs would be happy. But that's why Monarchs should have Raiza limited. They've already got enough good cards (especially with Caius coming out), and they don't need to keep the biggest nuisance in the game. (( I also hate how 2 Raiza was thrown in every deck I dueled against in YVD )) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 raiza at 3. ok you always complain about how certain cards take the skill out of the game 3 raizas do that o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 if a perfect ban list has happened then the whole meta would change, god knows what will be good and what wont be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 raiza at 3. ok you always complain about how certain cards take the skill out of the game 3 raizas do that o.O How does 3 Raiza take skill out of the game? This, by the way, assumes that Treeborn Frog has been (quite rightly) banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 the sheer amount of times ive been hit with 3 raizas one after another has ruined games for me spinning is the strongest effect in the game its why people dont dind the -1 for pwwb and when you can just tribute for it spin attack reapeat till you have won i agree with everything that has been said just raiza at 3 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonwalk 2000 Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 if that ban was to be instated id be funked now what im saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimajk Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Even if the banlist was perfect im willing to bet we would have more people complaining about it then we have on the current one. Face it most people want those cheap cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Even if the banlist was perfect im willing to bet we would have more people complaining about it then we have on the current one. Face it most people want those cheap cards. Traditional Format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 If you allow yourself to get Raiza 3 times, chances are you need to play better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 the sheer amount of times ive been hit with 3 raizas one after another has ruined games for me spinning is the strongest effect in the game its why people dont dind the -1 for pwwb and when you can just tribute for it spin attack reapeat till you have won i agree with everything that has been said just raiza at 3 no Who the f*** spins any more? "I spin your Dark Armed Dragon to the top of your deck! Ha what will you do now?" "Summon it next turn and win?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 If you allow yourself to get Raiza 3 times' date=' chances are you need to play better.[/quote']How exactly do you expect someone to have a counter after Raiza if they didn't have one BEFORE Raiza? If you don't have removal in your hand, and your opponent has 3 Raiza, you get screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 If you allow yourself to get Raiza 3 times' date=' chances are you need to play better.[/quote']How exactly do you expect someone to have a counter after Raiza if they didn't have one BEFORE Raiza? If you don't have removal in your hand, and your opponent has 3 Raiza, you get screwed. Learn to manage resources better. Back when Raiza was at 3, I never had myself hit by the continous spin because I'm not that stupid to allow for certain cards to stay for to long, or waste my resources to early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 If you allow yourself to get Raiza 3 times' date=' chances are you need to play better.[/quote']How exactly do you expect someone to have a counter after Raiza if they didn't have one BEFORE Raiza? If you don't have removal in your hand, and your opponent has 3 Raiza, you get screwed. Learn to manage resources better. Back when Raiza was at 3, I never had myself hit by the continous spin because I'm not that stupid to allow for certain cards to stay for to long, or waste my resources to early.Hmm... I guess "luck" has nothing to do with Yu-Gi-Oh!, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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