Daigusto Sphreez Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 I quite like idea of piecing together a deck with no archetypal focus that actually kicks ass, and this one hasn't been half bad in testing. Suggestions are always welcome though since it can probably be improved. Anyway this is what I've got for the coming format [OCG/TCG]: Monsters [20]: 3x Tin Goldfish 3x Goblindbergh 3x Star Drawing 3x Sacred Crane 3x Kagetokage 1x Traptrix Myrmeleo 1x Heroic Challenger Extra Sword 1x Summoner Monk 1x Blackwing - Zephyros the Elite 1x Electromagnetic Turtle Spells [10]: 2x Mystical Space Typhoon 2x Forbidden Lance 2x Soul Charge 1x Book of Moon 1x My Body As A Shield 1x Dark Hole 1x Reinforcement of the Army Traps [10]: 3x Call of the Haunted 2x Fiendish Chain 1x Bottomless Trap Hole 1x Torrential Tribute 1x Compulsory Evacuation Device 1x Mirror Force 1x Solemn Warning Extra Deck [15]: 2x Number 101: Silent Honor Ark 1x Evilswarm Exciton Knight 1x Lavalval Chain 1x Daigusto Emeral 1x Abyss Dweller 1x Caingorgorm 1x Number 103: Ragna Zero 1x King of the Feral Imps 1x Evilswarm Ouroboros 1x Number 50: Blackship of Corn 1x Gagaga Cowboy 1x Photon Papilloperative 1x Number 85: Crazy Box 1x Maestroke the Symphony Djinn Other Options not used but considered: Photon Thrasher Masked Chameleon Number 39: Utopia Diamond Dire Wolf Instant Fusion Pinpoint Guard Trap Stun Effect Veiler Maxx C Mist Valley Falcon Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning - Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindupRabbitFan14 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Considered ranking up to hit C101? Also, what's your stance on Memory of an Adversary over Mirror Force? Just throwing ideas out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted May 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Hmm, I don't really ever even consider using rank-up cards, infact I don't think I've ever worked a deck around them. Definitely worth trying a variant since C101 is really good. Which rank-up cards do you recommend? Not my area of expertise. And mirror force is definitely a precarious one, sometimes useful, but at other times redunant... I'll try out and see. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Hmm, I don't really ever even consider using rank-up cards, infact I don't think I've ever worked a deck around them. Definitely worth trying a variant since C101 is really good. Which rank-up cards do you recommend? Not my area of expertise. And mirror force is definitely a precarious one, sometimes useful, but at other times redunant... I'll try out and see. Thanks. Quick Chaos for battle phase shenanigans and dodging a Fiendish on your 101 or whatever. The Thousands because everyone runs Rank 4s. Barian's Force if you are only going to Rank Up the proper monsters since that can steal an Xyz Material. Or you can use Numeron Force if you can plan around the blanket negation of your own cards. If you use RUM then you can test out Utopia Ray V/ictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Quick Chaos for battle phase shenanigans and dodging a Fiendish on your 101 or whatever. The Thousands because everyone runs Rank 4s. Barian's Force if you are only going to Rank Up the proper monsters since that can steal an Xyz Material. Or you can use Numeron Force if you can plan around the blanket negation of your own cards. If you use RUM then you can test out Utopia Ray V/ictory. Thanks for the lowdown. Nice to know there's quite a few viable ones to choose from. And I forgot about Utopia Ray Victory, pretty sure I remember people saying Battlin' Boxers make a good RUM deck because of the abundance of rank up options they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I forgot to mention The Thousands is a side card since they might not go into R4 and then you have 2 dead spells. Also LBF is good I guess, if you want a straight R4 > CR5 with no restrictions and don't care about the target being correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I don't see Numeron backfiring much, although I am running fiendish chains (call of the haunted is negligible since I'd xyz straight away anyway). Barian's Force is probably the safer more standard option though, I'll see what I prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindupRabbitFan14 Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Just play Limited Barian. Why bother stealing a material then the monster when you can just steal the Xyz? You can also rank up ANY rank 4 into C101 and it doesn't require 101 to steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 So uh, why the fuck are you not running Instant Fusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Numeron is bad. Barian is bad. Admiration is bad. Run LBF, and Quick Chaos as a maybe, so as to dodge targeting effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Numeron is bad. Barian is bad. Admiration is bad. Run LBF, and Quick Chaos as a maybe, so as to dodge targeting effects. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 They simply don't do enough. Numeron has a chance to be good, but... meh. Barian is only worth it for CXyz, which now have quick Chaos. Admiration is inconsistent, and even iffy as a side-deck choice. LBF presents so many options it is playable. Quick Chaos can be used both defensively and to OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 How? Well, let's see. Barian's Force is shit because it's a worse Numeron Force in R4 -> R5 Numeron Force is mediocre because same type restriction. LBF is good because it turns any R4 into any R5 CNo. Well, as good as a 4->5 rum is atm. Quick Chaos does nothing but pseudo-Lance and OTK situationally. Argent Chaos Force is good... in inconsistent decks whose consistency does not benefit from it. Astral Force is a genuinely good card. Admiration is situational and shouldn't be mained, if even sided, unless it's a format like DRuler, and even then eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 They simply don't do enough. Numeron has a chance to be good, but... meh. Barian is only worth it for CXyz, which now have quick Chaos. Admiration is inconsistent, and even iffy as a side-deck choice. LBF presents so many options it is playable. Quick Chaos can be used both defensively and to OTK. Thanks for actually explaining instead of just saying "bad". Black got it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 So uh, why the f*** are you not running Instant Fusion? I feel as if the deck can make Rank 4s easily enough without it, since it's nice to have 15 xyz slots for more options instead of dedicating slots to fusions. It's definitely viable, but not as essential as your cursing suggests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 If you're not running Noden at least at 1 in an online all format card pool, then yes, you are doing something horribly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 If you're not running Noden at least at 1 in an online all format card pool, then yes, you are doing something horribly wrong. This deck list states OCG/TCG. Not Korean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 This deck list states OCG/TCG. Not Korean. Korea is OCG Territory as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 [quote name="Fraxure" post="6408370" timestamp="1399804368"] This deck list states OCG/TCG. Not Korean. [/quote Korea is OCG Territory as far as I know. I just assumed it would be under its own sub territory. After checking the card and realizing it was in their Primal Origins, I didn't realize it was already a thing. In which case, sure, this card would undoubtedly make instant fusion a staple in the deck. I've only known about this card's existence for a few days so it slipped my mind regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I've been testing rum but I rarely find myself using/drawing into it. Changelog: +2 LBF +1 C101 +1 Crest of Horror -1 MBAAS -1 Fiendish Chain -1 Papilloperative -1 Maestroke To be fair, if I include instant fusion and RUM I think my extra deck space might be a bit strained, I'd rather do one or the other, and given how useful Noden is I'd probably opt for that. So I might just swap 2 LBF out for 2 Instant Fusion and the 2 C numbers for 2 Noden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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