~British Soul~ Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Stealth Rock. Knock Off. Pwnches. Ohhhhh yeahhh. Oh yes, I'm liking Knock Off as well, the same with Drill Run seeing as I want to use Beedrill. Some of the other move tutor moves aren't too shabby either. Holy crap, Tate is male? Yeah, Tate's a male. I'm surprised it took you this long to realise this. Although I know some people couldn't tell if Tate was a boy or a girl due to him and Liza being twins (Professor Oak being one of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Holy crap, Tate is male? ._. did you think Brendan's hat was his hair? .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 ._. did you think Brendan's hat was his hair? .-. I did as a kid. Not sure when it was that I learned it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 I did as a kid. Not sure when it was that I learned it wasn't. Pretty sure everyone did. Emphasis on past tense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 I think my favorite designs are the Rangers, they look great, especially the female. And Wally, he's adorable, I like it. Phoebe and Drake are easily my favorite E4 designs, as for Gym leaders, I never liked Winoa much but I like this design a lot. And I like Roxanne and Brawly even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Girl Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 I am soooo excited for Omega Ruby! Definitely worth spending my money on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 I am soooo excited for Omega Ruby! Definitely worth spending my money on! We know; you already posted this on the last page. Try to say stuff related to the topic though, especially with the new info coming out; not post this message over again (because it can be considered spam). Anyway, the new designs look fine; can't really say specifics. Wallace looks a little...different now in that pose; not saying that's a bad thing. Given that I didn't play original RSE until a year ago on emulator (yeah, I am so far behind), don't think I believed Ruby's hat was actually his hair (could be because I read the page on Bulbapedia...w/e). I probably might've did the same thing if I had been on time with the games. Hopefully May/Brendan are actually rematchable; I didn't scroll down the rest of the list of trainers b/c it's extremely long [they probably are]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 My favorite redesign is Wally. He's so adorable, and non-generic now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 By the way, if you really want to make use of M-Latios's ATK stat, don't forget that it gets EQ so it finally can reliably check non-Air Balloon heatrans, unlike before. Also, Wally is indeed love best shota *shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Base 130 atk on Mega Latios is actually good (same as his original SpAtk), and makes a mixed set much more feasible to work with. I'm okay with Latios getting an Atk raise; his sister, not really because even at 100, not really enough to scratch things with it. If I Mega Evolve them, probably may be Latios (even though both of the ones I have are Timid nature). As for Wally, he looks a lot better. (Most likely going to have to find him a Ralts on 103 again...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Think I'm going to take a page out of Agro's book and give my thoughts on all the new megas now that this being the full list seems pretty likely [spoilersMega Evals] Swampert-M Stats: 100/150/110/95/110/70 Type: Water/Ground Looks like a beast. Hits very hard, has amazing bulk as well as a very good type. Very likely to make OU. Sceptile-M Stats: 70/110/75/145/85/145 Type: Grass/Dragon Its a shame Sceptile has NO special moves to really speak of. I mean, you COULD make a set, but physical just seems way better. Nice thing is he is now fast enough so that a +ATK nature still leaves him enough speed to outrun base 127 so that gets most things you'd care about. Over all, might make UU, will at least be RU. Sableye-M Stats: 50/85/125/85/115/20 Type: Dark/Ghost While he is a ton better on the stat side, his normal ability is just WAY to good to give up. I mean, you'd still have it for a little, but I don't see the Mega seeing much use. Altaria-M Stats: 75/110/110/110/105/80 Type: Dragon/Fairy Dragon/Fairy is an amazing type, and while it might be weak to 4 types it resists a full 7 and is immune to 1. Stats are solid and her ability allows to hit like a truck. Should make UU, but not sure it will be able to make it past that. Gallade-M Stats: 68/165/95/65/115/110 Type: Psychic/Fighting This things seems nuts. Really fast, amazing attack, and solid defense makes this a major pain to deal with. Should easily make OU. Audino-M Stats: 103/60/126/80/126/50 Type: Normal/Fairy Not sure what to make of her honestly. Stats are fine, but I feel like she doesn't do enough to get past RU. Sharpedo-M Stats: 70/140/70/110/65/105 Type: Water/Dark While he gets a downgrade in ability, he can still get some use out of it before going Mega and with a huge attack stat I see him I can see him doing some real damage. Should easily make UU. Slowbro-M Stats: 95/75/180/130/80/30 Type: Water/Psychic Not sure what to make of this guy. While his stats speak for themself, we have another MASSIVE downgrade in ability. Honestly, I feel like OU has better Megas to use then to give it to him when his normal form already does so much work. Steelix-M Stats: 75/125/230/55/95/30 Type: Steel/Ground Should easily make it out of NU, but I think getting into UU is going to be a challenge. Pidgeot-M Stats: 83/80/80/135/80/121Normal/Flying Its numbers are just what they need to be to do some work, though sadly I don't think its enough to get it out of NU, or at least into a good place in RU. Still, it does some cool stuff so it seems fun. Glalie-M Stats: 80/120/80/120/80/100 Type: Ice/Ice Ice is such a bad type. Even with some good stat increases I don't see this doing much of anything. Diancie-M Stats: 50/160/110/160/110/110 Type: Rock/Fairy Easy high tier OU pokemon. Numbers are nuts and it has a solid move set. Metagross-M Stats: 80/145/150/105/110/110 Type: Steel/Psychic He only does everything. Also very nuts. Kyogre-P Stats: 100/150/90/180/160/90 Type: Water/Water Groudon-P Stats: 100/180/160/150/90/90 Type: Ground/Fire Rayquaza-M Stats: 105/180/100/180/100/115 Type: Dragon/Flying While I don't think Kyogre-P will do a ton in ubers other than counter Groundon-P, all 3 are going to majors plays in ubers. Hoopa-"M" Stats: 80/160/60/170/130/80 Type: Psychic/Dark Can't really comment when it isn't even out. All I can say is the stats look nuts and it has a good type. Camerupt-M Stats: 70/120/100/145/105/20 Type: Fire/Ground Sadly too slow to do much in UU other than die to any and all water types, seems like a really solid pokemon. Lopunny-M Stats: 65/136/94/54/96/135 Type: Normal/Fighting Much like Pidgeot its numbers are right where they need to be. I think it will fair a little better than it, but I don't see it doing much more than that. Salamence-M Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120 Type: Dragon/Flying I think OU missed its Blue/Red friend. Beedrill-M Stats: 65/150/40/15/80/145 Type: Bug/Poison Textbook glass canon. Priority is too much of a thing for this to be much of a thing, but its going to hurt. Hope to see this make RU. [/spoiler] As for move tutor, moves I'm happy to get are SR, Drain Puch, Giga Drain, Knock Off, and the Punches. Foul Play and Pain Split will also do a couple of the pokemon I like some good to finally have access to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 I guess I need to give my opinions about the new megas as well. [spoiler='Onions Opinions'] Swampert-M Stats: 100/150/110/95/110/70 Type: Water/Ground Ridiculously good in rain, still pretty powerful outside of it. Kabutops in rain is faster and hits harder with Life Orb/Band, but Swampert has infinitely better bulk, Thunderwave immunity (huge against Thundurus), and better typing. Even outside of rain, it's a nice tank. Best of all is it can afford to run Rain Dance without sacrificing much, so it can get more opportunity to sweep. Top OU, or at least high mid. Sceptile-M Stats: 70/110/75/145/85/145 Type: Grass/Dragon Shit special movepool, godly physical movepool. BUT, its movepool is enough. It boasts one of the highest speed in the tier and powerful SpA from the get-go. Mixed is also an option due to its workable ATK and vast physical movepool. One thing, it also makes any Thundurus in your opponent's team to be a free switch in and +1 SpA. Mid OU tbh, at worst BL due to the competition from other megas. being weak to birdspam sucks. Sableye-M Stats: 50/85/125/85/115/20 Type: Dark/Ghost Important note on how to play M-Sableye. You DON'T have to mega right away. Pretty much its advantage is versatility with its two amazing abilities. While it's not exactly amazing, it's bulky, has a wide supportive moveset, and can fill quite the niche in teams as a defensive Espeon that can screw with a lot of mons. Unsure about this one, but this is definitely viable. Altaria-M Stats: 75/110/110/110/105/80 Type: Dragon/Fairy Altaria bias aside (seriously Altaria is my favorite pokemon), Dragon/Fairy typing is HUGE, since it checks both Charizard-M, and it has a damn huge list of resistances to abuse. The stat is versatile good too. It can use a bulky DD set, a bulky mixed attacker set, or a tank set. Note that once again, you don't have to Mega Evolve immediately. That Flying type could be a really valuable asset to keep at times. So think carefully. Definitely will be OU due to its amazing typing and good stat alone. Gallade-M Stats: 68/165/95/65/115/110 Type: Psychic/Fighting A weaker, but bulkier, faster, with better offensive and support movepool, Mega Medicham. Mega Medi's only edge is ~33% more power, but it sacrifices a lot compared to this. Will be used more than M-Medicham, but it'll not be used often if Aegislash dropped back to OU, Also, amazing in doubles due to inner focus + wide guard/Quick guard. Audino-M Stats: 103/60/126/80/126/50 Type: Normal/Fairy Uh...yeah. The most physically bulky fairy type, but eh...can't do much in return. Taunt bait at its finest. Sharpedo-M Stats: 70/140/70/110/65/105 Type: Water/Dark Protect to get a speed gain, then mega evolve and abuse the 120 BP Crunch with impunity. Not exactly amazing due to paper thin bulk and the fact that once its switched out, you'll get something not as amazing. A nightmare for offensive teams lacking Breloom, but not exactly that great. Slowbro-M Stats: 95/75/180/130/80/30 Type: Water/Psychic Absolutely broken. Aside from gigantic super effective nukes, no physical attacks can 2HKO it. Meanwhile, it can hit hard in return, threaten a burn with Scald, or just boost all the way to +6/+6 with Calm Mind. I mean, heck, if you can be sure that there's no phazers or toxic users left in your opponent's team, you can just run Amnesiac and Iron Defense to make this thing literally unkillable. Also, 130 SpA -hurts- when placed in something that's supposed to be a wall. Top OU, and maybe even get suspected (no, I'm serious). Steelix-M Stats: 75/125/230/55/95/30 Type: Steel/Ground Just...use mega aggron outside of Sandstorm teams, and even then, it's iffy. No recovery at all kills it. Pidgeot-M Stats: 83/80/80/135/80/121 Normal/Flying Second fastest defog in game, only beaten by Crobat. While in OU it's outclassed by Tornadus/Tornadus-T defog aside, in UU it can spam Hurricane with impunity and pull defogs whenever necessary. 135 is enough to lay some hurt, and Flying STAB is one of the most spammable in the game at the moment. Glalie-M Stats: 80/120/80/120/80/100 Type: Ice/Ice Gimmicky suicide anti-lead with explosion, otherwise, RU maybe? Diancie-M Stats: 50/160/110/160/110/110 Type: Rock/Fairy Pretty damn good. Tutor pretty much rounded up her moveset. It can be run as either an all-out attacker, or an offensive cleric (something that's very rare as of late). Definitely great. Metagross-M Stats: 80/145/150/105/110/110 Type: Steel/Psychic Good stats, but actually is weaker than LO Metagross, and suffers from 4MSS. Still really great from stats alone, I can see it being used often in OU. Camerupt-M Stats: 70/120/100/145/105/20 Type: Fire/Ground Doubles Trick Room. Also, in lower tier, that bulk would be enough to make it threatening. in OU it's too gimmicky though. Lopunny-M Stats: 65/136/94/54/96/135 Type: Normal/Fighting Don't really sure about this one tbh. It's still quite frail, weak to Talonflame, but it's fast as hell and hits decently hard. Not to mention, unresisted STAB. We'll see then. Salamence-M Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120 Type: Dragon/Flying I heard Rayquaza missed his old dance partner. Seriously. This thing is Uber-material. I mean, it is not OHKO'd by Mamoswine and Weavile's Ice Shard, and can OHKO in return. It sets up in front of Charizard-X and Garchomp. Can easily run mixed, can afford to run Adamant, Aerilate Return/Double Edge hits like a goddamn truck, and one DD is enough to decimate teams. Literally makes some matches unwinnable. Beedrill-M Stats: 65/150/40/15/80/145 Type: Bug/Poison King of min-max, lel. Have a niche in OU as the fastest U-turner in the tier that hits really damn hard. But has a shitton of issues, pathetic bulk included. It'll be BL2, I think, but it'll be viable in OU. [/spoiler] Mega Slowbro is broken, just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Why are people getting the idea that M-Glalie would only work as a suicide anti-lead just because of Explosion? You only use that move when you are about to die or during an emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 That's the point. But really, with Glalie's middling bulk and speed, "emergency" and "last resort" situation will happen often. And besides, as an anti-lead he'll more or less use other attacks first before exploding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Not to mention of Glalie's typing still being the cause of its suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Is it still confirmed that XY and ORAS won't be compatible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Is it still confirmed that XY and ORAS won't be compatible? http://www.serebii.net/omegarubyalphasapphire/compatibility.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Y'all best not be tripping on Mega Sceptile and Mega Gallade. Sceptile really only needs Leaf Storm/Energy Ball/Giga Drain, Focus Blast, Dragon Pulse, and Hidden Power. And he's got enough attack to consider running some sort of mixed set. Gallade's movepool is disgustingly good. Alongside great speed, great attack, pretty damn good bulk, it can go against pretty much anything you throw at it. I mean it even has prio in Shadow Sneak. http://www.serebii.net/omegarubyalphasapphire/compatibility.shtml It's as if Game Freak doesn't know what an update is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Mega Sceptile -is- good. Also, important note about Mega Gallade (and to an extent, Megagross) 110 is slowly shaping to be the new 100 for speed, with 100 becoming comparatively slower and slower relative to the meta. Just something to note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Can't they just patch the new moves into X and Y? Nintendo pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 They also need to patch the new Mega graphics, the data for them, the data for Primal Reversion mechanic, the data for the item, etc. Not impossible, but if they can't be bothered to do that for Giratina Origin Forme back during Platinum, can't imagine them bothering to do that here. Hoping though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Can't they just patch the new moves into X and Y?This would be like trying to have Pokemon Yellow battle Pokemon Crystal, while the later has something like Steelix on it's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 This would be like trying to have Pokemon Yellow battle Pokemon Crystal, while the later has something like Steelix on it's team. Uh, no. This is the same generation. Same game pretty much, just an expansion. They honestly shouldn't have made new attacks in the first place, or should have better programmed the the base so they could patch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Frankly, the only reason they aren't patching anything is so that we are forced to buy the new games instead of asking a friend to clone their Mega Stones and Pokés to trade to our XY versions. Simple as that. Though I believe they might release a patch later by the time the Kalos updated version is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 They also need to patch the new Mega graphics, the data for them, the data for Primal Reversion mechanic, the data for the item, etc. Not impossible, but if they can't be bothered to do that for Giratina Origin Forme back during Platinum, can't imagine them bothering to do that here. Hoping though. DS games couldn't be patched. X&Y can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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