Agro Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Digging here, but:Well, that's one way for Pidgeot to not be overshadowed by Staraptor. Need a ton of new moves tho.I mean all it needs is Hurricane Spam. If you forget about whatever Move Tutor or other stuff it may get that we're not expecting, its moveset's likely to be something like:HurricaneRoostHeat Wave/Something ElseDefog/Protect/Tailwind/WhirlwindWait, you can basically make it Special Talonflame w/o prio lawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Wait, you can basically make it Special Talonflame w/o prio lawl so, not talonflame at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 WATCH THEM MAKE HIM ICE/DARK On the count of 3... FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Digging here, but: I mean all it needs is Hurricane Spam. If you forget about whatever Move Tutor or other stuff it may get that we're not expecting, its moveset's likely to be something like: Hurricane Roost Heat Wave/Something Else Defog/Protect/Tailwind/Whirlwind Wait, you can basically make it Special Talonflame w/o prio lawl Hmm, I hope they give it Focus Blast. In that case replace the last move with it and it can be amazing. Also Ice/Rock would be cool for Glalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Also Ice/Rock would be cool for Glalie. >4x fighting weakness with mach punch running around >4x steel weakness with bullet punch running around no thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 We have Amaura/Amarus with Ice/Rock; that doesn't go well with Scizor and other priority abusers running around. Making it Dark as secondary typing puts it in a similar boat as Weavile; weak to Mach Punch and Fairies. Not sure what else would fit Glalie w/out giving it a 4x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Guys, I thought of another good addition to M-Pidgeot's movepool in order to better take advantage of its new ability: Sing - it's a bird after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 >4x fighting weakness with mach punch running around >4x steel weakness with bullet punch running around no thx I said cool, not necessarily viable. Not many good secondary typings with Ice to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Stalfos19 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Yeah, about the very best two are Ice/Fighting and Ice/Ground, the latter of which is already taken by Mamo. Hell, not even Ice/Steel's that great because of the devastating x4 weaknesses to Fire and Fighting. And Steel's usually good with anything :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 bottom point is, being an ice type is suffering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I think that's something we all can agree with. Ice types have the short end of the stick. They are a good offensive type, but because of the defensive weaknesses usually what happens for Ice is non-STAB Ice attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 None of this matters because it's already confirmed to be pure Ice-type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 None of this matters because it's already confirmed to be sucky right. Ugh, if only Steelix has a recovery move not named Rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 One of the best typings Ice could have, defensively, is Ice/Poison. 5 resistances. 5 weaknesses.The Problem?Resistant to Poison, Bug, Ice, Grass, and Fairies. Weak to Ground, Rock, Steel, Fire, and Psychic.Resistant to things that likely wouldn't kill it and weak to basically all of the most common attack types in the game.Yeah, that's pretty terrible.Also here's some cool info from someone who's played the demo. Same info, but he gets more in depth on stuff:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4eI03a74XE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 kinda came with the package by being resistant to only itself and weak to 2 very common types and 1 semi common type thanks to fairies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 kinda came with the package by being resistant to only itself and weak to 2 very common types and 1 semi common type thanks to fairies. You mean 3 very common types. Fire, Rock and Fighting moves are all common among the movepool of many a sweeper in competitive play, even if the first two don't have that many representatives among the highest ranks. While its typing may not help it at rising through Smogon or VGC ranks, at least they had the decency of making M-Glalie a purely offensive mon, even boosting its Spd to an acceptable value, instead of wasting all the extra points with its defenses like many expected. Ideally, Ice, like Fire, should be assigned primarily for sweepers, not tanks, and GF should've realized it a long time ago; its one of the best STABs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 If only, if only. Or they could also..y'know, add some resistances for ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaMuddy Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 If only, if only. Or they could also..y'know, add some resistances for ice. Normal and Water would be a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Giving Ice more resistances might be helpful, but the matter is what types would aesthetically make sense for Ice to block. Normal doesn't really make much sense; can probably see why you'd say Water (with consideration that ice is essentially frozen water). I would say Grass or something, considering that Ice is technically super effective over it. You could have it block Bug types if you wanted; since most insects are cold-blooded (if that makes any sense in Pokemon to emulate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Maybe make Ice resistant to Dragon? It won't get rid of the superiority Fairies have since they would be immune, but it would help for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Giving Ice more resistances might be helpful, but the matter is what types would aesthetically make sense for Ice to block. Normal doesn't really make much sense; can probably see why you'd say Water (with consideration that ice is essentially frozen water). I would say Grass or something, considering that Ice is technically super effective over it. You could have it block Bug types if you wanted; since most insects are cold-blooded (if that makes any sense in Pokemon to emulate). Anything but Grass or Bug. Those two are tied the WORSE offensive types. Fire, Poison, Steel, Flying, Dragon, Grass, and Bug all resist Grass while Fire, Poison, Steel, Flying, Fairy, Ghost, and Fighting . Sadly, only water really makes sense as an additional type for them to resist. If another type should just get added on after that my vote is for Ground or Fairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaMuddy Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Anything but Grass or Bug. Those two are tied the WORSE offensive types. Fire, Poison, Steel, Flying, Dragon, Grass, and Bug all resist Grass while Fire, Poison, Steel, Flying, Fairy, Ghost, and Fighting . Sadly, only water really makes sense as an additional type for them to resist. If another type should just get added on after that my vote is for Ground or Fairy. Not only that, but both are weak to Fire, Flying and Poison, AND, Grass is weak to Ice and Bug as well. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why the Grass starter is usually the worst one to pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Not only that, but both are weak to Fire, Flying and Poison, AND, Grass is weak to Ice and Bug as well. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why the Grass starter is usually the worst one to pick. Bug also gets to be weak to rock (aka SR). So yea, agree fully that Grass and Bug just aren't good types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Bug's not being a good type is offset somewhat by having amazing mons, though they are kinda still underpowered yeah especially with SR. Despite its many weaknesses, Grass is an amazing defensive type. Resistance to Water, Ground, Electric is pretty frigging good, especially since those are not covered by Steel. And most grass types gets their type's top-tier support moves too, which is pretty potent. Not the best type by all means, but it's far from bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Got the Demo, safe to say the staff in GAME were useless. Didn't even tell me where to get the code (thank god for Serebii) all they told me was to go onto the store when infact I needed to go to Nintendo Zone to get the code and then redeem in the Nintendo Shop. Oh and no Gengar either. Complained on twitter about both points. As for the demo now I finally downloaded it. Sneak is weird. Atleast I can say I've got a Mega Glalie ready for ORAS. [spoiler=Demo details from Serebii: ] Steelix is exclusive to Japan, South Korea, Australia and Europe get Glalie. Once you have captured the Pokémon, the first part of the demo ends, but you can go on more adventures with Steven to a variety of different island layouts and you receive the other two starter evolutions. These islands then have various tasks such as find a Pokémon, find a lost child or battle all the trainers. These change with each playthrough. After you finish the task, the demo will end again and something will change. On the 5th and 10th adventures, you will face up against an Elder with a more powerful team. You will either receive an item gift, or a new person can be found in Mossdeep City such as Gym Leaders like Flannery and Wattson, or other random NPCs including a swimmer who swam all the way from the Kalos region. This works up to the 10th time, where you can continue to go on new adventures, but you'll no longer receive any bonuses for completion. Experience on the Pokémon resets after each adventure This demo is rather unique in that it will allow you to transfer aspects of the demo to the main Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire games once purchased. This is done through the Pokémon Link feature of the games. The demo will allow you to send over any items that you have collected throughout the playing of the demo, as well as the special Mega Evolved Pokémon that is encountered within this demo! Picture Item Adventures Required Mega Steelix 1 Adventure Mega Glalie 1 Adventure PokéBall Set 3 Adventures Heal Bal Set 5 Adventures Heart Scale Set 7 Adventures Heart Scale Set 10 Adventures [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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