Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon

[Blake]

Pendulum Effect : You can only use each Pendulum Effect of "Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon" once per turn. You take no battle damage from attacks involving a Pendulum Monster you control. During your End Phase: You can destroy this card, and if you do, add 1 Pendulum Monster with 1500 or less ATK from your Deck to your hand.

Monster Effect : Any battle damage your opponent takes from attacks involving this card and an opponent's monster is doubled.

 

More an outlet for an anime rant than anything. This guy just... does not strike me as a good ace monster. I mean, for Jack Atlas or a villain, yeah, it's a very good ace. It looks dark without being outright evil, it has an over the top effect based on sheer force, etc. Having a secondary effect in the way it has it feels like a villain/rival's "BTW I have a plan b lol", not a protagonist sacking their boss (Albeit as a pendulum) in order to make a play.

 

Stats of course buffed to rival standards if for a rival.

 

But the design does not fit Yuya at all, at least from who he's being put forward as, nor does the effect really seem protagonist-y. It feels almost like the "Яeverse" of Utopia, if anything. I'm all for them improving writing, but... it feels wrong for this to be an ace for the mc.

[Delibirb]

Anime View: I think part of the idea is it isnt supposed to fit with how an MC's ace is supposed to be, being "Odd", its basically screaming "Arc-V will not be normal, it will be very different and hopefully much better than Zexal" Certainly its effect seems quite aggressive, where usually an ace would be very defensive, but it could simply symbolize Yuya coming out from behind is clown mask further, not being a silly boy hiding behind an attack-negating warrior, but strutting into battle on a massive dragon.

 

IRL View: Basically Sangan for Pendulums, and if/when all-Pendulum-Monster decks become things, I wont be surprised when this meets the same fate as our three-eyed friend. That being said, I love its synergy with Chaos Dragons.

[Gokai-Red]

Compared to Stardust this card feels like it has quite a lot less charm and personality for being an Ace monster...it is kinda baddish too

[Blake]

Compared to Stardust this card feels like it has quite a lot less charm and personality for being an Ace monster...it is kinda baddish too

A. stardust is fugly too. The only reason it's more likable is because it doesn't go in the opposite irection of its owner.

B. this card's really good, what are you on? Pendulums aren't great yet, but this is easily the best Pendulum monster by leagues.

[Wildflame]

I had the exact same thoughts (although I haven't even started Arc-V), it just doesn't fit as a MC's ace monster.

 

Pretty amazing effect-wise. I don't see it being hit at all though, seeing as it IS the MC's ace monster after all.

[arkaeldarknnes]

You also have to remember that because of its effect it will be send from the pendulum zone to the extra deck face up, and then the next turn you will most probably be able to pendulum summon it, so in the end you are going to summon it using the new summon mechanic, which I think is one of the rules for the last 3 ace monsters at least...

[Gokai-Red]

A. stardust is fugly too. The only reason it's more likable is because it doesn't go in the opposite irection of its owner.

B. this card's really good, what are you on? Pendulums aren't great yet, but this is easily the best Pendulum monster by leagues.

 

A: Stardust is Quite Stylish, It was supoused to represent HOPE, and the wish for a Better Future (Sort of the concept most Synchro were trying to go). It has a weird as llok at first but he was easily Likeable even before knowing what its effect really were (Althought for some reason I thought at first that Junk Warrior was Yusei's Ace for some reason)

B: As far as an individual effect are card is decent. But pedulums at the moment are terribad. Consider that this card 1) Can't Search itself 2) Its best and only worthy Targets are the Magicians and that is not really much to say. Well have to wait and see what else will this thing be able to do in the future and if the Upgraded Forms increases its appeal.

[Blake]

A: Stardust is Quite Stylish, It was supoused to represent HOPE, and the wish for a Better Future (Sort of the concept most Synchro were trying to go). It has a weird as llok at first but he was easily Likeable even before knowing what its effect really were (Althought for some reason I thought at first that Junk Warrior was Yusei's Ace for some reason)

B: As far as an individual effect are card is decent. But pedulums at the moment are terribad. Consider that this card 1) Can't Search itself 2) Its best and only worthy Targets are the Magicians and that is not really much to say. Well have to wait and see what else will this thing be able to do in the future and if the Upgraded Forms increases its appeal.

A. i didn't know bestial monsters that don't look sentient were fitting for an MC

 

B. ... No they aren't? They're not great, but they're not terribad, and they actually have a home. And who cares if it can't search itself, it's still a free level 7 from the ED. Like, your points here are "it's not good because the mechanic is new".

[Ｄｈａｒｃ]

Anime Standpoint: I didn't think it seemed like a MC's Ace either, as it was the whole "X-Eyes Y Dragon" thing going on, and a very offense-oriented effect.  That being said, I think we must all remember that before Neos, Jaden's aces were Flame Wingman, Thunder Giant, Tempest, and Bladedge, who ALL loved to kill things.  My thinking is that Yuya's gonna get a deck change like Jaden did in GX, because Entermates look dumb and silly.

 

Gameplay Standpoint: He's got that effect that basically makes him a recyclable Sangan for Pendulums, and dat monster effect that just devours LP.  I like 'im.

[Gokai-Red]

A. i didn't know bestial monsters that don't look sentient were fitting for an MC

 

B. ... No they aren't? They're not great, but they're not terribad, and they actually have a home. And who cares if it can't search itself, it's still a free level 7 from the ED. Like, your points here are "it's not good because the mechanic is new".

 

Have you ever watched 5D's at all???

Yes Stardust Dragon was Incredibly 100% for Yusei  and last time I checked Yusei was the MC of 5D's. An Stardust was and acted Quite Sentient to being just a bestial monster.

 

It may seem like a free level 7 Sure. But it takes at least 2 turns and 3 cards (And there is no Combination except Chronomancy + Another Odd-Eyes/Astronomy that can Summon Odds-Eyes) to set it put (unless of course if you draw all the cards at once in which case you dont use Odds-Eyes as a Searcher which is something you better do not to do). So no Pendulum Summon is not bad because is New, it is Pendulum monsters so far that are not really good.

[Blake]

Have you ever watched 5D's at all???

Yes Stardust Dragon was Incredibly 100% for Yusei  and last time I checked Yusei was the MC of 5D's. An Stardust was and acted Quite Sentient to being just a bestial monster.

 

It may seem like a free level 7 Sure. But it takes at least 2 turns and 3 cards (And there is no Combination except Chronomancy + Another Odd-Eyes/Astronomy that can Summon Odds-Eyes) to set it put (unless of course if you draw all the cards at once in which case you dont use Odds-Eyes as a Searcher which is something you better do not to do). So no Pendulum Summon is not bad because is New, it is Pendulum monsters so far that are not really good.

Have you ever used reading comprehension at all ??!//1?!/!?!/!?

 

I said it doesn't LOOK like it. It doesn't look intelligent, it never did anything to display it as more than a dumb beast, and it looks like a monster. Neos, Utopia, and DM are all humanoid and SHOWED their intelligence. Stardust did nothing of the sort. I'm not opposed to a dragon ace, but you cannot deny it doesn't give off an air of intelligence in any way.

 

oh no how dare you get a + that isn't immediate

 

Your argument is still the mechanic is new so the card is bad so idk why you're trying to argue THIS card is bad.

[a bad post]

I don't really have anything to say about from a gameplay standpoint as I think we've already established several times that its good, but wait this is the MCs Ace? Just... uhh... I mean it looks nice and all, but I just don't see this as a card that would fit Yuya... I mean not just effect wise, but artwork wise it just feels awkward.

[Toffee.]

Out of curiosity, Black, why is having an aggressive ace monster a bad thing?

Arc-V has subtle metagame aspects to it, so naturally Yuya's boss would be something that can come off as being threatening.

...As far as anime bosses go, of course.

[Greiga]

I didn't think any of this, I thought it was weird MC has a Dragon and not a Warrior or Spellcaster but then I remembered Yusei had Stardust.

If anything the Magicians' scales are 1-8 so you can think of them as both bosses and this as a pet.

OT: Cool Pendulum Effect, now give us more Pendulums.

[Azuh]

Mam, I'm not sure If I have OCD or not but I really wish they moved the Level Stars over to match the end of the picture and name borders....

[evilfusion]

Really, I'm not fond of either Odd-Eyes or Odd-Eyes Pendulum, but I only just now realized what the issue was: Lack of charm. Dark Magician, the E-Hero Fusions and later Neos, Stardust, and even Utopia were all neat-looking and seemed to fit the user in some way, either in playstyle or in asthetics.

 

I'd think the problem is that Yuya has not yet established himself as anything, and so his ace, if Odd-Eyes is indeed going to be his ace, seems out of place. Dark Magician was strong and confident-looking. The Fusions represented potential and had very neat abilities that showcased E-HERO flexibility. Neos was kind of meh, but did a lot of butt-kicking and Contact Fusions. Stardust is majestic (yes...a bit ugly looking if you look at its face too much), and represented hope for the future, and Yusei's mindset. Even the other Synchros showed potential in small monsters and combos.

 

Utopia was a pretty awesome monster. We only grew to hate it because whereas the other protagonists showed flexibility, Utopia was Yuma's constant monster, and got SO MUCH support that we got sick of it. However, being an offensive monster with a defensive effect fit Yuma's personality and determination. It fit him, even if we grew to hate the monster.

 

Odd-Eyes is a decent card, but at best, it represents that Yuya isn't yet where he's supposed to be as a Duelist/character. He's odd. He's out of place.

 

But I expect that Odd-Eyes won't be Yuya's sole ace. He just learned Pendulum Summoning, and this card's effect to search Pendulums gives options for the future, and Odd-Eyes will be a common monster used, but will be an offensive support card, not a standalone ace.

[Azuh]

What I don't get though is why Odd-Eyes changed its name when it turned into a Pendulum monster in the anime while the Magicians didn't...

[Neutrality Man]

Really, I'm not fond of either Odd-Eyes or Odd-Eyes Pendulum, but I only just now realized what the issue was: Lack of charm. Dark Magician, the E-Hero Fusions and later Neos, Stardust, and even Utopia were all neat-looking and seemed to fit the user in some way, either in playstyle or in asthetics.

 

I'd think the problem is that Yuya has not yet established himself as anything, and so his ace, if Odd-Eyes is indeed going to be his ace, seems out of place. Dark Magician was strong and confident-looking. The Fusions represented potential and had very neat abilities that showcased E-HERO flexibility. Neos was kind of meh, but did a lot of butt-kicking and Contact Fusions. Stardust is majestic (yes...a bit ugly looking if you look at its face too much), and represented hope for the future, and Yusei's mindset. Even the other Synchros showed potential in small monsters and combos.

 

Utopia was a pretty awesome monster. We only grew to hate it because whereas the other protagonists showed flexibility, Utopia was Yuma's constant monster, and got SO MUCH support that we got sick of it. However, being an offensive monster with a defensive effect fit Yuma's personality and determination. It fit him, even if we grew to hate the monster.

 

Odd-Eyes is a decent card, but at best, it represents that Yuya isn't yet where he's supposed to be as a Duelist/character. He's odd. He's out of place.

 

But I expect that Odd-Eyes won't be Yuya's sole ace. He just learned Pendulum Summoning, and this card's effect to search Pendulums gives options for the future, and Odd-Eyes will be a common monster used, but will be an offensive support card, not a standalone ace.

and then we'll get 25 different "Odd-Eyes" support cards and 83 further upgraded forms.

[evilfusion]

and then we'll get 25 different "Odd-Eyes" support cards and 83 further upgraded forms.

 

This is possible, if exaggerated. Doesn't one of the Pendulum cards mention that if an "Odd-Eyes" card wasn't in the other Pendulum Zone, it has a different Scale?

What I don't get though is why Odd-Eyes changed its name when it turned into a Pendulum monster in the anime while the Magicians didn't...

 

To distinguish between the cards? Odd-Eyes Dragon, as a Pendulum, became Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon. This is even more likely if "Odd-Eyes" becomes a real archetype. Odd-Eyes Dragon has no Pendulum related applications. Odd-Eyes Pendulum does. Future Odd-Eyes cards remain to be seen.

[Lonk]

I think that the reason why Odd-Eyes is Yuya's ace monster is because it is supposed to represent his bitter emotions of basically being abandoned by his father and having everyone take it out on him because he's his son.  He smiles and wears clown costumes to make fun of himself in order to smile, but he's really just a [url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StepfordSmiler]Stepford Smiler[/url] that's trying to make the pain of humiliation and abandonment go away.  Dueling is the only way for him to freely express his feelings within a healthy setting and uses it to entertain people as well, which makes him forget about the pain even if it is for a moment.  The Entermate monsters are his surface, but Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon represents the negativity within his heart.  If you think about it that way, it makes a lot of sense for this card to be Yuya's ace while simultaneously being very depressing as well.

[G.B. Sparticus]

imo, i agree with you Black. I mean, better ace monsters are ones with effects that keep them around for a while ( not counting yugi's dark magician or jaden's neo's, but they have good support cards.). this just doesnt make any sense.

[Sleepy]

I agree that it seems a little out of place.

Jaden had Flare Wingman do similar things, but Flare Wingman was one of Jaden's pretty much tool-box-able options. Meanwhile Yuya only using Main Deck cards is pretty much stuck with this one. Also, Pendulum Dragon doesn't have the Pendulum searching effect in the anime if I remember correctly, so it doesn't even symbolize potential for the future.

 

Honestly, I think it's cool for a little while longer, but I don't think it is the best MC Ace option. I just don't see Odd-Eyes having the potential to give us exciting new things for too much longer. It's not impossible but I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Yuma's duels at some point got a bunch of "I negate your monster's effect" as the out or to skip through the mass attacking that would be required to make Utopia run out of ammo and represent a threat to Yuma.  In Utopia's case, they could have gone for the options of flipping face-down, effect removal, going after other resources, preventing invocation, forcing the usage of Materials through relatively low cost plays (Hyper Hammerhead or w/e), effects that detach from it, an opponent using Double-Up Chance as well, and who knows how many other things, but nah, let's just use the "negate" route. Now, I believe the people in charge of Arc V might give a better approach to interaction with a MC Ace overall, but once again, I have this grain of salt ready.

[Neutrality Man]

I agree that it seems a little out of place.

Jaden had Flare Wingman do similar things, but Flare Wingman was one of Jaden's pretty much tool-box-able options. Meanwhile Yuya only using Main Deck cards is pretty much stuck with this one. Also, Pendulum Dragon doesn't have the Pendulum searching effect in the anime if I remember correctly, so it doesn't even symbolize potential for the future.

 

Honestly, I think it's cool for a little while longer, but I don't think it is the best MC Ace option. I just don't see Odd-Eyes having the potential to give us exciting new things for too much longer. It's not impossible but I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Yuma's duels at some point got a bunch of "I negate your monster's effect" as the out or to skip through the mass attacking that would be required to make Utopia run out of ammo and represent a threat to Yuma.  In Utopia's case, they could have gone for the options of flipping face-down, effect removal, going after other resources, preventing invocation, forcing the usage of Materials through relatively low cost plays (Hyper Hammerhead or w/e), effects that detach from it, an opponent using Double-Up Chance as well, and who knows how many other things, but nah, let's just use the "negate" route. Now, I believe the people in charge of Arc V might give a better approach to interaction with a MC Ace overall, but once again, I have this grain of salt ready.

It doesn't YET. In that first duel, he created Pendulum Dragon and the 2 Magicians through sheer cheating magic bullshit  plot convenience willpower. If you have all 3 in your hand, there's no reason to Activate Dragon.

[Sleepy]

It doesn't YET. In that first duel, he created Pendulum Dragon and the 2 Magicians through sheer cheating magic bullshit  plot convenience willpower. If you have all 3 in your hand, there's no reason to Activate Dragon.

Nowadays cards in the anime are sometimes shown with legible text on screen. That's how we found out there was a forever unused effect for Number 44. Odd-Eyes is one of these examples, and it said nothing of it. I'm not saying it's impossible that they decide to suddenly add it later, but sometimes they just abide for what they already did even if it's not how IRL versions work, and this could be one of those times.

 

Granted, they do not introduce the ability to Pendulum Summon from the Extra Deck in the anime as of yet, and it could be an opportunity, but we'll have to see.