Urayne Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 You sicken me. He had nowhere else to turn. The police ignored him, the school did nothing about it. His parents begged and begged, and they wouldn't do sh!t. It may not be self-defense, but in a school where the bullied suffer day after day with no hope, the truth /needs/ to get out somehow. He clearly tried to do it otherwise, and only recorded as a last resort. everyone has different oppinions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I honestly dont care. The law is the law and he should be charged. If it's actually a bad law maybe it will change and maybe this is the coverage it needs, BUT you cant argue that he shouldnt be charged without arguing against the equal application of justice. It's the exact same as the George Zimmerman case. Fucking retarded people will call out and yell and bitch and say stupid shit BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER because that's why we have a justice system; to prevent dumbass uninformed or emotional people from making bad decision. Honestly people like you really piss me off because you are thinking with your emotions instead of being logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Life is unfair. Goes to show that even the most heartless and oblivious of men, get to sit on a position of power and are able to execute this kind of BS. It was very appalling to see the travesty unfold because the charge was felony wiretapping. Felony wiretapping. According to this article: http://geoffreygnathanlaw.com/felony-wiretapping-punishment/ on the issue and its punishments: "Wiretapping is the act of illegally obtaining a privileged, recorded communication." Of course there are many issues that align with this punishment, such as unveiling confidential situation. unveiling scandals, or just simply being a suspicious political spy, but this is just a f******g Special-Ed kid who just wanted proof that he was being bullied and wanted attention and sympathy from the staff. And what does this get instead of justice? At least a minimalized act of disorderly conduct. F*** their authority. This all reminds me of a Dutch Proverb my Literature teacher once shown to us, which just sums up my general opinion: Powerful men and beautiful women never get to hear the truth. I really do hope this gets overturned and justice will be served. Being apathetic to a kid who deserves a chance like everyone else in the world is only being selfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 If what he did was illegal, than he should be charged. It's as simple at that. I'm not allowed to break the law because someone else is. This isn't self defence. The behaviour of the authority figures was deplorable but that doesn't change the fact that he may have broken the law. The ability to make small exceptions from absolutely justified rare cases like this is what we are supposed to have going for us over the idea of just putting cold data black and white computers in charge of this job to end up arresting all of humanity for putting 1 foot down the sidewalk. The humane common sense doesn't seem all that different anymore. Even if charged, the bullies should also be charged, at worst right after his case, preferably simultaneously. I'd understand that the first person to press charges is the first in turn to open trial, but that doesn't mean the bullies should just be ignored, and that seems to be the case. The police should have been able to see the whole picture and go after the school staff that ignored the kid's asking for help, regardless of if the kid still presents a charge afterwards or not. In my opinion though, it's downright stupid to suggest the kid should have any punishment beyond a pat on the back and an officer saying "This was a special case, but now you know, don't record people without their consent again and just come with us if you are in trouble". If the police had demonstrated any level of competence that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 instead of being logical. Well if this isn't the most hypocritical thing I see today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPTinYugi Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 everyone has different oppinions... Just because everyone has a different opinions, doesn't protect him from being bit** at by people who disagree. This is a forum, it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm starting to think school shootings are a good idea. Of course I'm kidding, but the teachers, principle, bullies, police, and judge can rot in hell for all eternity. I'm freaking sick of the police. Go to hell, all of you. (the police). I'm so pissed. I'm being as rational as I can. This video is making me realize how even more pissed off I am. I'm glad people like him speak up. Our justice system is a piece of freaking crap. This is why I say justice is one of the world's greatest lies. >multiple people to blame which is mentioned in post >specially singles out police right afterward. >says he's being rational as possible. No, bro. Taking the piss out on all police for the incompetence/stupidity of the officer(s) involved in this is not rational. It's stupidity. Although, if you're one of those people, it might not be to you. I get why you're mad but it's not just the fault of the police but I agree they were just as bad here. Nobody in power did their job right in this case. The whole case of the student being charged is BS and our justice system definitely needs serious reform(as does public education). As for this, The officer is dumb for agreeing with the principal and saying the recording has no purpose. The principal needs to be fired. The teachers need to be either reprimanded or fired. The judge needs to be fired. The bullies need to be expelled and charged. Well, if things were perfect that is. And no, I'm not kissing the butt of the police. Cops do misbehave and sadly, quite a few of them get off. Moral of the story is: Everyone sucks in this case. Not just the police. And, apparently, It's not the first time bullies have been recorded. It is the first time that someone has been charged though. Still BS. For the kid's sake, I hope it gets overturned. Hopefully, the parents will attempt to file a lawsuit. I would have mentioned that I hope the mother tries to get a restraining order but I doubt the school would give up the names of the bullies. If they even bothered to figure out who they were that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah~ Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 This is very heartbreaking for me to read. The teacher as well as law enforcement accuse the boy being bullied of felony wiretapping, yet, he had permission to bring that iPad to school and had not posted it on any social website. That is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPTinYugi Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 This is very heartbreaking for me to read. The teacher as well as law enforcement accuse the boy being bullied of felony wiretapping, yet, he had permission to bring that iPad to school and had not posted it on any social website. That is ridiculous. ipad apparently might belong to the school, it might be their possession and not the kid's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 >multiple people to blame which is mentioned in post>specially singles out police right afterward. >says he's being rational as possible. No, bro. Taking the piss out on all police for the incompetence/stupidity of the officer(s) involved in this is not rational. It's stupidity. I meant that I was severely pissed off and being as rational as I could be at the time. I'm pointing to the police here because they have been screwing up a lot lately. In addition I'm pretty sure the one who arrested the kid was a cop and gave him the charge of wiretapping. Recording in school is not allowed and is wiretapping? Bullcrap. Come arrest kids at my school then, I godang dare you. I don't understand the entirety of the circumstance but recording SHOULD have been just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 In the city I live in, making fun of anybody with special needs warrants getting beaten down by at least half the school. Regardless of the recording, no adult at that school who was involved should be allowed to keep their jobs due to their sheer level of spinelessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a bad post Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 If what he did was illegal, than he should be charged. It's as simple at that. I'm not allowed to break the law because someone else is. This isn't self defence. The behaviour of the authority figures was deplorable but that doesn't change the fact that he may have broken the law. You sicken me. He had nowhere else to turn. The police ignored him, the school did nothing about it. His parents begged and begged, and they wouldn't do sh!t. It may not be self-defense, but in a school where the bullied suffer day after day with no hope, the truth /needs/ to get out somehow. He clearly tried to do it otherwise, and only recorded as a last resort. Unfortunately Welche the bullies themselves had the right, as I'm looking at the Illinois state law book, to press charges since he recorded them without their knowledge, now I don't know about the Pennsylvania laws, but for the sake of the argument I'd assume they were the same. However the child in question was going through severe physical and psychological trauma, so to think that the jury could find him guilty (there must have been at least 1 parent on the jury right) is despicable. You know I usually try to side with the law considering my father is a police officer, but when they do stuff like this its impossible. Now if were going to play the law game the child should turn around sue the school of their asses for negligence, along with the teacher, and principal. Then charge each of the bullies each of the bullies for harassment, and a slew of other charges. As far as I know the kid really can't do anything about the judge and police considering they are bound by the law, and well he broke the law. Either way he can still press charges himself, and probably make a shit ton of money by sewing the school, teacher, principal, and each of the bullies individual families. You know this case really hits home too, because I work with the special ed kids at my high-school and usually everybody treats really nice, but there's always that one asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 So for once fox gets it right. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/15/teen-punished-for-recording-alleged-bullying-to-sue-school-district/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 The policy in itself is fairly dodgy. I've literally stated Pennysylvania law on this page, so people could just scroll up for it. The problem is that the court considered that classroom was not a public space, which is silly because the conversations of the recording were obviously being broadcast to the whole class (20 odd people and a teacher). School policy may say different but that can't be brought into court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urayne Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 well to the opponents of the bullied kid: you sicken me opponents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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