VictorSempra Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Even I can see this is bad. I wish I had my old one to run around with, it was built decently. The goal is a "purist" style Crystal Beast deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I hope you are planning on an E Deck. I don't know much past the E deck, honestly. Chidori 2x Excition 101 Maestroke Caingorom or whatever Blackship, maybe Gagaga Cowboy etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I hope you are planning on an E Deck. I don't know much past the E deck, honestly. Chidori 2x Excition 101 Maestroke Caingorom or whatever Blackship, maybe Gagaga Cowboy etc etc There's a reason there isn't one there yet. Plus, this in no way helps me fix up the deck at all, so I'm tempted to mark it as spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 you wont get anywhere by running rainbow dragon, get rid of it tortoise, amethist and amber, make this into xyz variant and start from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 you wont get anywhere by running rainbow dragon, get rid of it tortoise, amethist and amber, make this into xyz variant and start from there >The goal is a "purist" style Crystal Beast deck. In short: No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 ^If you're not going to listen to peoples' advice about making your deck better then don't post it and go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 ^If you're not going to listen to peoples' advice about making your deck better then don't post it and go away. Yep, okay, let me jsut make a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT deck than what was intended. Sorry I have an opinion on what I want out of this deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yep, okay, let me jsut make a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT deck than what was intended. Sorry I have an opinion on what I want out of this deck. This is a forum focused on competitive gameplay. If you post a non-competitive CB deck, then we are going to tell you how to make is as competitive as possible. We don't simply accept that you want to run bad cards and NO EXTRA DECK just because you want to be a "purist". The game, and this forum, doesn't work like that. You're just making yourself look stupid by not accepting the advice of competitive players on a competitive-based forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 This is a forum focused on competitive gameplay. If you post a non-competitive CB deck, then we are going to tell you how to make is as competitive as possible. We don't simply accept that you want to run bad cards and NO EXTRA DECK just because you want to be a "purist". The game, and this forum, doesn't work like that. You're just making yourself look stupid by not accepting the advice of competitive players on a competitive-based forum. I never said I wasn't going to make an extra deck, don't star twisting crap. And it's not real advice, if it's "Just re-write your whole deck." There is NOTHING in the rules that says I have to cater to every opinion posted, "competitive" or otherwise. Furthermore, this is only the second deck in...however many I've posted here that someone has done that, and the other time was pretty recent as well. Don't lecture me on competitive-ness of decks, that has NEVER been an issue for me in the past. ANd I think it's pretty damn obvious when I post a pure-CB deck running Rainbow Dragon that it's not meant to be competitive, nor have I EVER on this site said I was a competitive player. And no, this forum is based on creating cards, not competitive gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 You know, theoretically, given the nature of Rainbow Path n' junk, it's possible you could make this into somewhat of a turbo-variant.Problem is, "Pure CBs", are a little on the slow side. I mean, they can net pluses out of nowhere, yes, but Rainbow Dragon in general is just... Eww.Although, if your insisting on it, you could always use Advanced Dark. Since, you know, it fuels Path/Whereabouts/Dragon's Summon/etc.Also, Maxx, slow down a bit. Please. Your getting a little carried away.(No offense, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I never said I wasn't going to make an extra deck, don't star twisting crap. And it's not real advice, if it's "Just re-write your whole deck." There is NOTHING in the rules that says I have to cater to every opinion posted, "competitive" or otherwise. Furthermore, this is only the second deck in...however many I've posted here that someone has done that, and the other time was pretty recent as well. Don't lecture me on competitive-ness of decks, that has NEVER been an issue for me in the past. ANd I think it's pretty damn obvious when I post a pure-CB deck running Rainbow Dragon that it's not meant to be competitive, nor have I EVER on this site said I was a competitive player. And no, this forum is based on creating cards, not competitive gameplay. If you say you're "going" to create an Extra Deck, then don't post the deck until you have made one. I'm reasonably sure that posting incomplete decks is against the rules, though I haven't really checked. I don't care about any of the other decks you posted. We are talking about this one, and if this one needs drastic changes, then players will tell you it does. Its not a question of re-writing the deck, since it will still be a Crystal Beast deck with most of the Crystal Beast cards that you are running. It just cuts out all the bad ones and gives the deck a reliable win condition. This particular section of the forum doesn't have anything to do with creating cards. This is discussion about the REAL game, so don't generalise things. If you're posting here, you should be expecting competitive discussion because there is very little point to discussing casual decks as it isn't really important and doesn't generate very much discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 You know, theoretically, given the nature of Rainbow Path n' junk, it's possible you could make this into somewhat of a turbo-variant. Problem is, "Pure CBs", are a little on the slow side. I mean, they can net pluses out of nowhere, yes, but Rainbow Dragon in general is just... Eww. Although, if your insisting on it, you could always use Advanced Dark. Since, you know, it fuels Path/Whereabouts/Dragon's Summon/etc. Also, Maxx, slow down a bit. Please. Your getting a little carried away. (No offense, of course) The intention was to make this so I could transfer it over to DP, and add my custom cards into the mix. But apparently, I'm not allowed to play purist-style even for fun. I do like the ACB's (except their reliance on teh Field Spell), so I might make that. If you say you're "going" to create an Extra Deck, then don't post the deck until you have made one. I'm reasonably sure that posting incomplete decks is against the rules, though I haven't really checked. I don't care about any of the other decks you posted. We are talking about this one, and if this one needs drastic changes, then players will tell you it does. Its not a question of re-writing the deck, since it will still be a Crystal Beast deck with most of the Crystal Beast cards that you are running. It just cuts out all the bad ones and gives the deck a reliable win condition. This particular section of the forum doesn't have anything to do with creating cards. This is discussion about the REAL game, so don't generalise things. If you're posting here, you should be expecting competitive discussion because there is very little point to discussing casual decks as it isn't really important and doesn't generate very much discussion. It is not against the rules, and you never said "this section", you just said "forum." And removing 4/8 of what makes Crystal Beasts the Crystal Beasts is just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunn O))) Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 It is not against the rules, and you never said "this section", you just said "forum." And removing 4/8 of what makes Crystal Beasts the Crystal Beasts is just stupid Removing 4/8 of what makes Crystal Beasts the Crystal Beasts makes the deck better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 You know, TC, with regards to CBs...They actually can make their plays, and quite well at that.But why do you want to include Rainbow Dragon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ok, let´s just say the guy wants to run Rainbow Dragon.dek, as bad as that might be, and base our tips with that idea in mind. That said, you could use a couple of Summoner Monks in here. Lavalval Chain could help you drop CBs to the grave in order to summon Rainbow Dragon. And TGM's ED suggestions were mostly spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 You know, TC, with regards to CBs... They actually can make their plays, and quite well at that. But why do you want to include Rainbow Dragon? It's how I had the deck originally. I don't remember exactly how I built it, but it worked pretty good most of the time. He's not 100% necessary, but there are some semi-easy ways into him, even if he has no protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 If you're running Rainbow Dragon, why not consider Advanced Dark? At least it helps you set up for the Dragon itself while blocking damage. A Terraforming would be nice too for Field tutoring. I'm rather iffy on non-Chainable Traps in the Deck, especially when they clog up space due to being unusable for any possible reason. You can afford to, say, drop a Rainbow Path for a Crystal Release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 we cant really suggest anything to you because it needs like 20 changes and you wont accept them lol so i dont see why you would bother posting here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 It's how I had the deck originally. I don't remember exactly how I built it, but it worked pretty good most of the time. He's not 100% necessary, but there are some semi-easy ways into him, even if he has no protection.Literally the whole issue to Rainbow Dragon, is the fact you can't even use it the turn you play it.Yes, you can drop it upon getting 7 [X], but now what? It's just 4K and nothing else. It's effects are impressive, but again, it literally cannot use them upon playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 So...this must be the thread that prompted people to make parody threads. I'll be dealing with those shortly. Even I can see this is bad. I wish I had my old one to run around with, it was built decently. The goal is a "purist" style Crystal Beast deck. There's a reason there isn't one there yet. Plus, this in no way helps me fix up the deck at all, so I'm tempted to mark it as spam. And what reason is that? You didn't define what a "purist" style CB Deck is. And the belief it doesn't help improve the Deck is outright folly. >The goal is a "purist" style Crystal Beast deck. In short: No. This is one of the worst responses I've ever seen. Not on its own merits, or even on the misuse of "in short" (which implies you have a longer, more in-depth explanation but are sparing the explanation because it speaks for itself). At this point, I have no idea what you want or expect people to help you with. "Purist" could mean many things, including archetype-only support. So a "Purist" E-HERO Deck would run Hero Barrier over something like Threatening Roar for no reason aside from being purist. I never said I wasn't going to make an extra deck, don't star twisting crap. And it's not real advice, if it's "Just re-write your whole deck." There is NOTHING in the rules that says I have to cater to every opinion posted, "competitive" or otherwise. Furthermore, this is only the second deck in...however many I've posted here that someone has done that, and the other time was pretty recent as well. Don't lecture me on competitive-ness of decks, that has NEVER been an issue for me in the past. ANd I think it's pretty damn obvious when I post a pure-CB deck running Rainbow Dragon that it's not meant to be competitive, nor have I EVER on this site said I was a competitive player. And no, this forum is based on creating cards, not competitive gameplay. You never said why you didn't have an Extra Deck. And considering your emphasis on "purist", and the lack of Crystal Beast Fusions/Synchros/Xyz in the game, this was not a stretch to assume. You're right, you don't have to cater to other people's opinions. However, the key difference is HOW you justify or explain your reasoning. Based purely on the above quotes, you've done a TERRIBLE job on that front. You're shooting down everything that came your way without explaining your choices for doing so beyond "purist", which in itself is so vaguely defined and crippling that you've come dangerously close to breaking the section rules. "Not meant to be competitive" is almost never assumed. Most people specifically make a note in their OP when they're limited on fix options based on budgets/etc. More people will assume the Deck is just poorly constructed. The intention was to make this so I could transfer it over to DP, and add my custom cards into the mix. But apparently, I'm not allowed to play purist-style even for fun. I do like the ACB's (except their reliance on teh Field Spell), so I might make that. It is not against the rules, and you never said "this section", you just said "forum." And removing 4/8 of what makes Crystal Beasts the Crystal Beasts is just stupid. What took so long to explain this intention? Though why you're bothering to post a Deck based on RL cards only to replace a chunk with custom cards is beyond me. It's against the rules to post a literally incomplete Deck. Lacking the Extra Deck isn't much of a problem unless the Extra Deck is crucial to the win condition, but letting people know why there isn't one is a far superior option than simply not acknowledging its absence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 so how is this not locked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 UH guys he says he wants to play Crystal Beasts his way Who are we to say he must play it such and such? If he wants this purist stuff and not some crazy good "competitive" build let him play his deck. We can help him out but if his deck has a GOAL let him have it. It's like saying one should ditch one burn deck for another. This is a forum focused on competitive gameplay. If you post a non-competitive CB deck, then we are going to tell you how to make is as competitive as possible. We don't simply accept that you want to run bad cards and NO EXTRA DECK just because you want to be a "purist". The game, and this forum, doesn't work like that. You're just making yourself look stupid by not accepting the advice of competitive players on a competitive-based forum. I agree with the second half but the bold is just ridiculous. He came here to run this gimmick and he is running this gimmick (Rainbow Dragon). No matter how bad it may be it is his choice to run this gimmick and nobody asked for your rehaul on the matter. Give feedback while having the purpose of the deck in mind. so how is this not locked? Because it is a deck. Why the hell would it be locked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 because my deck got locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ok, Maxxion. You want crystal beasts to summon Rainbow Dragon? Run Foolish Burial. You need it desperately. This does not hurt the "purist" concept, and it helps the deck a ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 because my deck got locked Because your thread, parodying this thread, got locked. It existed for no reason other than being a parody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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