[CFV] Bunny Queen Beast Tamer

[Maeriberii Haan]

Bunny Queen Beast Tamer

 

[ACT](VC) Limit Break 4 (This ability is active if you have four or more damage):[Counter Blast (2)] Choose up to one card from your soul for each unit you have with "Beast Tamer" in its card name, and call them to separate (RC). This ability cannot be used for the rest of that turn.
[AUTO]:When this unit is placed on (VC), search your deck for one card, put it into your soul, and shuffle your deck.

 

A.k.a not!Lequier

 

Man, the shenanigans between this and Wild Hitter is cray cray.

 

Discuss.

 

[Not-so-Radiant Arin]

Man, the shenanigans between this and Wild Hitter is cray cray.

 

All those wasted CBs. :(

[Maeriberii Haan]

Not wasted when you get a +1-3. Though, the main reason to use Wild Hitter here is to tutor a TBT/Trapezist straight from the deck. And turning a G3 into a full-column stand is really damn nice, just like Sarah, but overall more reliable.

[Althemia]

It's just an 11k Luquier with the name. Will replace Eva in Silver Thorns indefinitely because Marichika and Ana are Tamers.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Would those two work without a ST VG?

[Althemia]

Would those two work without a ST VG?

Just require a PM VG for them to trigger

[Maeriberii Haan]

That's..news to me. Dang, would've make quite the difference in quite several games. So in STs, it'll mainly be used for the soul tutoring, right?

[Althemia]

That's..news to me. Dang, would've make quite the difference in quite several games. So in STs, it'll mainly be used for the soul tutoring, right?

Tutor Luquier so that you can ride Luquier "R" with 13. This is when you realize that she is Luquier 3/4

[werewolfjedi]

It's just an 11k Luquier with the name. Will replace Eva in Silver Thorns indefinitely because Marichika and Ana are Tamers.

read closer, it says beast tamer, not just tamer, so it can't work with every card, but more importantly, it's at best, only a +3 to the field, because you need a card on the field for each one your summoning. problem is, is that it's a cb2, I'd rather trigger silver thorn empress to be honest.

this card is underwhelming to be quite honest. but it's ride effect does help save it to a point.

 

I woud prefer to play the new nightmare doll over this in a general sense. that card is a bit more useful.

[Althemia]

read closer, it says beast tamer, not just tamer, so it can't work with every card, but more importantly, it's at best, only a +3 to the field, because you need a card on the field for each one your summoning. problem is, is that it's a cb2, I'd rather trigger silver thorn empress to be honest.

I know it says Beast Tamer. Marachika and Ana are Beast Tamers..

[werewolfjedi]

I know it says Beast Tamer. Marachika and Ana are Beast Tamers..

never said it couldn't work with those two, I"m just saying the units you have to run with her to make her viable limit the strength of the deck as a whole.

[werewolfjedi]

let just go down the list of who I can find as possible units for the deck

silver thorn beast tamer emil. possibly could work, but can only send silver thorns to the soul, so that can hurt the deck comp lightly.

cellish. stand trigger. I don't mind stands, I actually enjoy them over crits endgame, since an attack of 16-23 is far more dangerous than an extra damage once they hit 5. but it isn't going to be used to trigger her most of the time anyway.

 

silver thorn ana . still got that silver thorn limitation.

turquise beast tamer. needs crimson in the deck to great. but considering they are the easiest tamers to fill in here, I don't think they will hurt the deck.

crimson: oh crimson, if I were to play this deck, this would be my preferred target. I would love to have 3 of these in soul.

marickia : silver thorn limitation again.

golden: lol no. not in this deck.

that's a grand total of 7 units, and 3 of them have the silver thorn limitation. which this bunny is not a part of, limiting her ability to be useful a great deal. and 1 is nearly useless to the deck too.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

let just go down the list of who I can find as possible units for the deck
silver thorn beast tamer emil. possibly could work, but can only send silver thorns to the soul, so that can hurt the deck comp lightly.
cellish. stand trigger. I don't mind stands, I actually enjoy them over crits endgame, since an attack of 16-23 is far more dangerious than an extra damage once they hit 5. but it isn't going to be used to trigger her most of the time anyway.
 
silver thorn ana . still got that silver thorn limitation.
turquise beast tamer. needs crimson in the deck to great. but considering they are the easiest tamers to fill in here, I don't think thay will hurt the deck.
crimson: oh crimson, if I were to play this deck, this would be my prefered target. I would love to have 3 of these in soul.
marickia : silver thorn limitation again.
golden: lol no. not in this deck.
that's a grand total of 7 units, and 3 of them have the silver thorn limitation. which this bunny is not a part of, limiting her ability to be useful a great deal. and 1 is nearly useless to the deck too.

I don't even PLAY this game, and I know you are totally wrong.
I'm pretty sure you don't know what Ana and Maricica actually do.
And stop misspelling all over the place.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Well, he's half correct actually.
The only viable targets are Turquoise, Crimson, and herself buuuuut, that is honestly enough for now. Her on-ride tutors anything from the deck, Wild Hitter can tutor any missing pieces, and then even with only her on the field, you get a CB2 for a quality +1. It's not something amazing yet, yeah. But it's quite nice. Also, easy access to power columns are always nice to have.

[werewolfjedi]

I don't even PLAY this game, and I know you are totally wrong.
I'm pretty sure you don't know what Ana and Maricica actually do.
And stop misspelling all over the place.

I know what they do, they are a pair of on hit call effects that can only call silver thorns. silver thorns have empress, and she is just plain out better, because she can go from empty field to full field with little trouble and minimum hand drop, often times in my play, nothing at all is needed from my hand to make a field.

and if you don't even play this game, how do you know I"m wrong?

I wrote this looking at all the cards in the pale moon clan. I found no other beast tamers.

and I have played this clan extensively since it first came out. I know what they can and can not do, and being limited in this fashion, is just bad for the deck build.

now if it was plain out unit for unit, that would have been fine, and I don't think anyone would see it as unfair that pale moon get to soul call 3 units for a 2CB, when dependent on other units existing on the field. this effect could have been balanced at the generic level.

[Althemia]

There's so many things wrong with the statements you're making... Empress is absolutely abysmal. She doesn't put anything into the Soul specifically, just fetches some out at mass meaning you can't make the most out of it by applying pressure early. Playing this means you get to use more Luquiers, allowing you to have a solid t3 ride before Luquier "R" that won't end up with you capitalized on for being a 10 by 10000 attackers.

The card's good because it puts something in the Soul, not because it fetches stuff out. The other part is a bonus, since you can easily call 2 cards off of it with Silver Thorns abilities. Though idk you play Empress so it would make sense you don't know that

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

I know what they do, they are a pair of on hit call effects that can only call silver thorns. silver thorns have empress, and she is just plain out better, because she can go from empty field to full field with little trouble and minimum hand drop, often times in my play, nothing at all is needed from my hand to make a field.
and if you don't even play this game, how do you know I"m wrong?
I wrote this looking at all the cards in the pale moon clan. I found no other beast tamers.
and I have played this clan extensively since it first came out. I know what they can and can not do, and being limited in this fashion, is just bad for the deck build.
now if it was plain out unit for unit, that would have been fine, and I don't think anyone would see it as unfair that pale moon get to soul call 3 units for a 2CB, when dependent on other units existing on the field. this effect could have been balanced at the generic level.

Like Ain said, there are only a few viable targets, and, from what I know, Pale Moon is an incredibly difficult clan to master, so I doubt your familiarity with the cards.

[Maeriberii Haan]

It has already been properly costed tbh. Had it been completely generic, then there's a ridiculous combo with this, trapezist, and plushy bunny/missdirection. The only reason this card's underwhelming atm is its reliance on several limited units to gain its maximum capacity.

And the searching is amazing.

(tbh I don't even know what parts are we discussing now atm)

[werewolfjedi]

Like Ain said, there are only a few viable targets, and, from what I know, Pale Moon is an incredibly difficult clan to master, so I doubt your familiarity with the cards.

well then.

I'd challenge you, but you said yourself you don't even play this game. so your thoughts on that mean less than nothing to me.

 

There's so many things wrong with the statements you're making... Empress is absolutely abysmal. She doesn't put anything into the Soul specifically, just fetches some out at mass meaning you can't make the most out of it by applying pressure early. Playing this means you get to use more Luquiers, allowing you to have a solid t3 ride before Luquier "R" that won't end up with you capitalized on for being a 10 by 10000 attackers.

The card's good because it puts something in the Soul, not because it fetches stuff out. The other part is a bonus, since you can easily call 2 cards off of it with Silver Thorns abilities. Though idk you play Empress so it would make sense you don't know that

I know it can fill the soul, I don't care about that ability in this point because the deck has several mass callers, and I find this one lacking.

and empress is not abysmal, my empress deck has won nearly every game it's been in.

wow, she doesn't fill the soul, Emile does that job just fine, so does Irina. I always have enough targets in the deck to make plays.

It has already been properly costed tbh. Had it been completely generic, then there's a ridiculous combo with this, trapezist, and plushy bunny/missdirection. The only reason this card's underwhelming atm is its reliance on several limited units to gain its maximum capacity.

And the searching is amazing.

(tbh I don't even know what parts are we discussing now atm)

doesn't that combo have the ability to exist with other g3s in this clan? Carole could definitely do it every turn it has purples on the field or in the soul.

[Maeriberii Haan]

This fills the soul with absolute precision(and it's basically free to use!), which not even Irina or Emil/Ionela can boast. And Empress...eh, definitely not something to focus on.

[werewolfjedi]

This fills the soul with absolute precision(and it's basically free to use!), which not even Irina or Emil/Ionela can boast. And Empress...eh, definitely not something to focus on.

the soul charging ability is great, not fighting on that point.

[Althemia]

the soul charging ability is great, not fighting on that point.

Then why are we still arguing? If you were a Pale Moon player, you would know that that is reason enough to run it.

[werewolfjedi]

Then why are we still arguing? If you were a Pale Moon player, you would know that that is reason enough to run it.

I don't know, I just put my opinion down and got attacked so I felt the need to defend myself.

my biggest personal issue with the bunny is that it doesn't have enough support to really make it good.