toralyon Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Pojo isn't a good source. The first thing u sayed so far that i liked and must agree with u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Pojo isn't a good source. And you are? Have you even looked at the thread, the people there contributed well with any relevant events, made calculations etc, and you dont think its a good source? **** off, and yeah ice barriers are clearly the best deck, but no one has used them yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 And you are? Have you even looked at the thread, the people there contributed well with any relevant events, made calculations etc, and you dont think its a good source? **** off, and yeah ice barriers are clearly the best deck, but no one has used them yet I never said I was a good source (I'm not). Views will always be different. Pojo also utilizes Bias, and asinine algorithms. Some Decks are always going to be more popular than others. That doesn't necessarily make them better than the rest. It just means they have larger chances of reaching notable positions. And from what I'm seeing, aside from YCS Sydney, he didn't post who actually won, which further skews the statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I never said I was a good source (I'm not). Views will always be different. Pojo also utilizes Bias, and asinine algorithms. Some Decks are always going to be more popular than others. That doesn't necessarily make them better than the rest. It just means they have larger chances of reaching notable positions. And from what I'm seeing, aside from YCS Sydney, he didn't post who actually won, which further skews the statistics. No, pojo used statistics based on what decks are topping etc. They didnt just choose themselves lol. And if that thread was made on dgz you wouldnt deny its a reliable source. Also players will plays decks based on how good they are, too many decks outclass Constellars so thats why no one uses them. And no real deck won in YCS Sydney lol do you even know how it worked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Okay, so using that logic. The Wind-Up Hunter loop was a good deck? That was a pretty prevalent deck, but faltered compared to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Okay, so using that logic. The Wind-Up Hunter loop was a good deck? That was a pretty prevalent deck, but faltered compared to others. wut are you on about I dont even get what this has to do with anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Its an example. Just because a deck is seen a lot, doesn't make it good. Which is how Pojo did the tiers. it was based on who popped up more often, thus meaning more points. Meaning the listed archetypes may not be in their true place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Wut if the deck was ran a lot and topped a lot then its obv good so if i got 100 people to run arcana force.dek into a 200 man tournament obv arcana force are tier 1 after they none of them topped 32? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Good Job. You misinterpreted what I said and came up with a scenario which is the exact opposite of what I said. I JUST got done saying the amount of the players of said deck is irrelevant. Yet you say "Oh hhey, Arcana Force is top tier guys, 100 people used it!". If that one lone Dark World deck topped the YCS, that would completely shatter your logic wouldnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 If a lone Dark World Deck topped a ycs, out of 32 well then obviously it wouldnt be a tier 1 deck, (if obv it didnt top other tournaments either) why would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 The Wind-Up Hunter loop was a good deck? That was a pretty prevalent deck, but faltered compared to others. It was a very good deck, it was the second or third best deck of that format. It only really faltered to Rabbit because 3 Rabbit 3 Tourguide Rabbit was one of the best decks ever. Anyway, what you is saying is a load of rubbish, you're changing your argument all the time and trying to back yourself out of a corner because you've said Constellars are a tier 1 deck, we've proved you totally wrong and you're still trying to argue. You say Pojo isn't a good source but the only source we have for Constellars apparently being one of the best decks is you, which is an even worse source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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