HeavyWeaponsSpy Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 LORE "X-Head Cannon" + "Y Dragon Head" OR "Z Metal Tank" When this card is Summoned: You can add 1 Normal or Union Machine-Type Monster from your Deck to your Hand. You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck with "V", "W", "X", "Y", or "Z" in its name, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster, ignoring any summoning conditions. Any Monster Special Summoned by this effect cannot be destroyed by card effects. You can only use this effect of "New Age Union: XYZ" once per duel. LORE While on the field: this card's name becomes "X-Head Cannon". Once per turn, you can discard 1 Union Monster to target 1 Level 6 Machine-Type Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck: Special Summon any Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Deck. They are destroyed during the End Phase. LORE When this card is discarded via the effect of any Monster with "X", "Y", or "Z" in it's name, you can treat this card as two discarded cards. I will be updating this thread frequently as I get new ideas/spot mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 just want to inform u that these cards' lore are including many unwanted cards such as Worm Zero, Super Vehicroid, Gem-Knight Zirkonia, etc. p.s. well, I really love to see newbies new members' cards who think Xyz Monsters are same as Fusion Monsters ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyWeaponsSpy Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 just want to inform u that these cards' lore are including many unwanted cards such as Worm Zero, Super Vehicroid, Gem-Knight Zirkonia, etc. p.s. well, I really love to see newbies new members' cards who think Xyz Monsters are same as Fusion Monsters ;) Elaborate? I've played this game for 6 damn years... also there is no way to summon my Xyz without XHC YDH OR ZMT, and if you run a XYZ Dragon Cannon deck with Worms, Roids, or Gem Knights, you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyWeaponsSpy Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Also, if you have no constructive critisism, get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Hate Snatch Steal Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 just want to inform u that these cards' lore are including many unwanted cards such as Worm Zero, Super Vehicroid, Gem-Knight Zirkonia, etc. Don't forget Five-Headed dragon! Also, you won't last long if you can't take feedback, and -someone- is pointing out a perfectly legitimate flaw in your wording. Not to mention that by that wording your card cannot even summon XYZ Dragon cannon the same way cyber stein can't, because of xyz dragon cannon's summoning condtition. VWXYZ is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyar Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I think what "someone" was trying to say is that because of their names, It's very hard to distinguish between the V W X Y Z monsters that say make up dragon catapult cannon for example and other monster who just so happen to have V-Z in their name. I'm not sure how, but try to distinguish between these 2 types of monsters. You'll have to ask for an ocg fix (im not good at that either). About his second point: Ignore them. You'll find allot of pretentious/elitist twats here that think just because the know the rules of this game the're naturally superior to others. Anyway, I like what your doing with the card but it's abit over powered. Try increasing the summon requirements to XHC, YDH AND ZMT, As for the other 2 cards: Their alittle over powered. They have high stats or can easily summon strong monsters for their lv. If I too am sounding pretentious, ignore me; hard to lighten your tone over the internet. note: Not talking about you I hate snatch steal ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyWeaponsSpy Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I think what "someone" was trying to say is that because of their names, It's very hard to distinguish between the V W X Y Z monsters that say make up dragon catapult cannon for example and other monster who just so happen to have V-Z in their name. I'm not sure how, but try to distinguish between these 2 types of monsters. About his second point: Ignore them. You'll find allot of pretentious/elitist twats here that think just because the know the rules of this game the're naturally superior to others. Anyway, I like what your doing with the card but it's abit over powered. Try increasing the summon requirements to XHC, YDH AND ZMT, As for the other 2 cards: Their alittle over powered. They have high stats or can easily summon strong monsters for their lv. If I too am sounding pretentious, ignore me; hard to lighten your tone over the internet. Thank you, finally someone who isn't a smartass. I made the cards a bit OP because the Xyz DC archetype has literally no support, unless you count union support. And again, if you have the Xyz on board, you pretty much have to be running a Xyz DC deck, and if you find a way to summon a five headed dragon off of it, then you deserve a cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Luckily you didn't specify that you can banish cards from the extra deck to summon the fusion, or else you could have got Naturia eXterio which would be no fun at all. I like the concept but I think there is an issue that there are a lot of cards with V,W etc in their names and it could easily lead to a slippery slope and limits future card design. I'm not sure how you get round it, but I do think it'd be best if you limited it to just the VWXYZ machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyWeaponsSpy Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Not to mention that by that wording your card cannot even summon XYZ Dragon cannon the same way cyber stein can't, because of xyz dragon cannon's summoning condtition. VWXYZ is the same. Good point, effect is changed. Luckily you didn't specify that you can banish cards from the extra deck to summon the fusion, or else you could have got Naturia eXterio which would be no fun at all. I like the concept but I think there is an issue that there are a lot of cards with V,W etc in their names and it could easily lead to a slippery slope and limits future card design. I'm not sure how you get round it, but I do think it'd be best if you limited it to just the VWXYZ machines. Sigh...you pretty much have to run an Xyz dc deck to get this thing out. Plus I kind of like the abusability, it promotes creative deck building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Sigh...you pretty much have to run an Xyz dc deck to get this thing out. Plus I kind of like the abusability, it promotes creative deck building. Potentially banishing every Worm monster in your deck shouldn't be allowed, no matter how situational it is. Substitoad is banned for a reason. You could at least limit the amount of cards banished by the effect (Chimeratech oVerdragon is another example) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Hate Snatch Steal Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Thank you, finally someone who isn't a smartass. I made the cards a bit OP because the Xyz DC archetype has literally no support, unless you count union support. And again, if you have the Xyz on board, you pretty much have to be running a Xyz DC deck, and if you find a way to summon a five headed dragon off of it, then you deserve a cookie. Since we seem to have a bit of a misunderstanding here, let me spell out for you what everyone is jumping on: You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck with "V", "W", "X", "Y", or "Z" in its name, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster, ignoring any summoning conditions. By that wording that you can summon any monster that has at least 1 of any of those letters in its name. My suggestion is list the vaild summons by name. (Also you don't target cards in the extra deck but that's beside the point.) Try this: You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card; choose 1 "VW Tiger Catapult", "XYZ Dragon Cannon" or "VWXYZ Dragon Catapult Cannon" in your extra deck, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the chosen monster, ignoring any summoning conditions. Don't get me wrong, I do like the concept though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 just want to inform u that these cards' lore are including many unwanted cards such as Worm Zero, Super Vehicroid, Gem-Knight Zirkonia, etc. p.s. well, I really love to see newbies new members' cards who think Xyz Monsters are same as Fusion Monsters ;) Just quoted to point out 2 small details. 1) Vehicroid Monsters don't actually include the "Vehic" part of the archetype name into their names, which I never really understood. (I know, it has nothing to do with the point of your post, but still wanted to point it out) 2) Technically, those Xyz Materials stated, although akin to a Fusion Monster's, still follow the "same Level", and I'd guess they'd be rendered unusable if the Levels were altered just for being an Xyz. As for suggestions for the card, I think that could be fixed if it was: Machine-Type "V", "W", "X", "Y", "Z" Fusion Monsters. Now it's restricted to the intended form. Also, "Once per Duel" clause sucks. Never use it. Try to look for alternatives to "Once per Duel" or "Oh but I meant for this card to be limited". It's not a valid excuse, and this effect as a "Once per turn" would be decent enough. In this particular case, saying "Once per Duel" is making a player build a deck that asks for as much dedication as the XYZ Unions, and as outdated as it is, you are giving them support that will only be useful once in the entire Duel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyWeaponsSpy Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Since we seem to have a bit of a misunderstanding here, let me spell out for you what everyone is jumping on: You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck with "V", "W", "X", "Y", or "Z" in its name, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster, ignoring any summoning conditions. By that wording that you can summon any monster that has at least 1 of any of those letters in its name. I. KNOW. THAT. Jesus H. Christ. You have to banish the exact materials on the card. To get this thing out you pretty much have to be playing Dragon Cannon! To summon any other monster out of the archetype you would have to run tech that makes no sense. Just quoted to point out 2 small details. 1) Vehicroid Monsters don't actually include the "Vehic" part of the archetype name into their names, which I never really understood. (I know, it has nothing to do with the point of your post, but still wanted to point it out) 2) Technically, those Xyz Materials stated, although akin to a Fusion Monster's, still follow the "same Level", and I'd guess they'd be rendered unusable if the Levels were altered just for being an Xyz. As for suggestions for the card, I think that could be fixed if it was: Machine-Type "V", "W", "X", "Y", "Z" Fusion Monsters. Now it's restricted to the intended form. Also, "Once per Duel" clause sucks. Never use it. Try to look for alternatives to "Once per Duel" or "Oh but I meant for this card to be limited". It's not a valid excuse, and this effect as a "Once per turn" would be decent enough. In this particular case, saying "Once per Duel" is making a player build a deck that asks for as much dedication as the XYZ Unions, and as outdated as it is, you are giving them support that will only be useful once in the entire Duel? This isn't the only monster i'm making. I'm trying to make a full archetype out of this. Summoning a 3k beater that can banish a card for free every turn that can't be destroyed by card effects is pretty good to just use over and over. Anyways I'm gonna stop responding because I'm getting sick of explaining this crap. Figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 You ignore its summoning conditions and then get to potentially banish your entire deck to bring out a monster with essentially infinite ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirur Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Just quoted to point out 2 small details. 1) Vehicroid Monsters don't actually include the "Vehic" part of the archetype name into their names, which I never really understood. (I know, it has nothing to do with the point of your post, but still wanted to point it out) 2) Technically, those Xyz Materials stated, although akin to a Fusion Monster's, still follow the "same Level", and I'd guess they'd be rendered unusable if the Levels were altered just for being an Xyz. As for suggestions for the card, I think that could be fixed if it was: Machine-Type "V", "W", "X", "Y", "Z" Fusion Monsters. Now it's restricted to the intended form. Also, "Once per Duel" clause sucks. Never use it. Try to look for alternatives to "Once per Duel" or "Oh but I meant for this card to be limited". It's not a valid excuse, and this effect as a "Once per turn" would be decent enough. In this particular case, saying "Once per Duel" is making a player build a deck that asks for as much dedication as the XYZ Unions, and as outdated as it is, you are giving them support that will only be useful once in the entire Duel? Once per Duel is a decent type of balance for this card's effect, and a lot of cards that have this Once per Duel restriction are pretty much abused in most decks because their effect is so good and this card is no exception.. think about it.. you are getting a free fusion monster ignoring its summoning conditions.. its freaking powerfull. I think once per duel is actualy good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyar Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I. KNOW. THAT. Jesus H. Christ. You have to banish the exact materials on the card. To get this thing out you pretty much have to be playing Dragon Cannon! To summon any other monster out of the archetype you would have to run tech that makes no sense. Not necessarily: " target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck with "V", "W", "X", "Y", or "Z" " means you can summon ANY fusion monster. No matter what cards you need to have in your deck, this effect alows you to summon any card from your extra deck. This makes it HIGHLY exploitable as you can have an infinite number of fusion cards in you extra deck, all of which are equally likely to be summoned at will. Any card that can do that is, in my opinion, broken (again: no offence, i'm trying to come of as helpful, not sardonic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I. KNOW. THAT. Jesus H. Christ. You have to banish the exact materials on the card. To get this thing out you pretty much have to be playing Dragon Cannon! To summon any other monster out of the archetype you would have to run tech that makes no sense. This isn't the only monster i'm making. I'm trying to make a full archetype out of this. Summoning a 3k beater that can banish a card for free every turn that can't be destroyed by card effects is pretty good to just use over and over. Technically, VWXYZ will take a while. You can't grab the Fusion Materials from the Extra Deck to make it with the Xyz's effect as far as I've read unless you updated it as I was writing the comment. So you need to bring out the 2 components and have them either on the field or Graveyard for the Xyz to kick in and do it. Also, it's not like you can just grab those 2 components with the Xyz's effect since it's "Once per Duel". There is also that the original Unions from Kaiba don't exactly have reliable support to give them speed. You have Summoner Monk and that's about it. A little more late-game you'll be able to do something like "Call of the Haunted into X and then Roll Out so you can unequip it during your turn". There's also that V and W can't be it's Xyz Materials, and X needs to be there so you also can't do it with just Y and Z. It's plenty restricted as is. Lastly, once VWXYZ is out, it's a BLS that is less cheap. Not being destroyed by effects in a 3K body IS powerful, but nowadays not impossible to take out either. There's plenty of non-destroying options against it, and it can still be taken down by battle. I think you could get away with "Once per turn", really =0 Once per Duel is a decent type of balance for this card's effect, and a lot of cards that have this Once per Duel restriction are pretty much abused in most decks because their effect is so good and this card is no exception.. think about it.. you are getting a free fusion monster ignoring its summoning conditions.. its freaking powerfull. I think once per duel is actualy good. It is insane for Chimeratech. I don't think it is when it's just the intended targets. The card needs to be tweaked in a way that can exclude Overdragon. Then I think it'd be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Elaborate? I've played this game for 6 damn years... also there is no way to summon my Xyz without XHC YDH OR ZMT, and if you run a XYZ Dragon Cannon deck with Worms, Roids, or Gem Knights, you're an idiot. He's talking about this effect, not the materials:You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck with "V", "W", "X", "Y", or "Z" in its name, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster. "V" "W" "X" "Y" and "Z" are all single letters, meaning this card can Summon any Fusion Monster in the Extra Deck whose name includes any of those 5 letters. Also, everyone, the effect says Special Summon, not Fusion Summon, Chimeratech specifies that it has to be Fusion Summoned. Calm your tits. Ignoring the conditions for him with just make a 0/0 L9 [spoiler="Legitimate Targets"] Barox Bikuribox Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast Cyber Blader Cyber End Dragon Cyber Ogre 2 Cyber Saurus Cyber Twin Dragon Dragoness the Wicked Knight Flame Swordsman Flower Wolf Gaia Drake, the Universal Force Gem-Knight Zirconia Humanoid Worm Drake Ignition Beast Volcanion Kamionwizard Karbonala Warrior Kwagar Hercules Labyrinth Tank The Last Warrior From Another Planet Master of Oz Mavelus Mystical Sand Naturia Exterio Panzer Dragon Ryu Senshi Sanwitch Steam Gyroid Super Robolady Super Roboyarou Super Vehichroid - Stealth Union Super Vehicroid Jumbo Drill Superalloy Beast Raptinus Thousand-Eyes Restrict Twin Photon Lizard Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon VW-Tiger Catapult VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon Vermillion Sparrow Vision HERO Adoration Vision HERO Trinity Warrior of Tradition Worm Zero XY-Dragon Cannon XZ-Tank Cannon XYZ-Dragon Cannon YZ-Tank Dragon Yakushi the Skull Knight Zombie Warrior [/spoiler] A better way to get your effect properly would be. When this card is Summoned: You can add 1 Normal or Union Machine-Type Monster from your Deck to your Hand. You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck that lists "V-Tiger Jet", "W-Wing Catapult", "X-Head Cannon", "Y-Dragon Head", or "Z-Metal Tank", as Fusion Material, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster. Any Monster Special Summoned by this effect cannot be destroyed by card effects. You can only use this effect of "New Age Union: XYZ" once per duel. I purposely excluded VWXYZ Dragon Catapult Cannon from the effect because it's too powerful if that guy is included. Legitimate targets for new effect: VW-Tiger Catapult XY-Dragon Cannon XZ-Tank Cannon YZ-Tank Dragon XYZ-Dragon Cannon Also, -Someone- DID give constructive criticism, YOU get out. Don't bring up your "6 years" of experience. I've been playing since it came to America, about 18 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 He's talking about this effect, not the materials:You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck with "V", "W", "X", "Y", or "Z" in its name, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster. "V" "W" "X" "Y" and "Z" are all single letters, meaning this card can Summon any Fusion Monster in the Extra Deck whose name includes any of those 5 letters. Also, everyone, the effect says Special Summon, not Fusion Summon, Chimeratech specifies that it has to be Fusion Summoned. Calm your tits. Ignoring the conditions for him with just make a 0/0 L9 [spoiler="Legitimate Targets"] Barox Bikuribox Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast Cyber Blader Cyber End Dragon Cyber Ogre 2 Cyber Saurus Cyber Twin Dragon Dragoness the Wicked Knight Flame Swordsman Flower Wolf Gaia Drake, the Universal Force Gem-Knight Zirconia Humanoid Worm Drake Ignition Beast Volcanion Kamionwizard Karbonala Warrior Kwagar Hercules Labyrinth Tank The Last Warrior From Another Planet Master of Oz Mavelus Mystical Sand Naturia Exterio Panzer Dragon Ryu Senshi Sanwitch Steam Gyroid Super Robolady Super Roboyarou Super Vehichroid - Stealth Union Super Vehicroid Jumbo Drill Superalloy Beast Raptinus Thousand-Eyes Restrict Twin Photon Lizard Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon VW-Tiger Catapult VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon Vermillion Sparrow Vision HERO Adoration Vision HERO Trinity Warrior of Tradition Worm Zero XY-Dragon Cannon XZ-Tank Cannon XYZ-Dragon Cannon YZ-Tank Dragon Yakushi the Skull Knight Zombie Warrior [/spoiler] A better way to get your effect properly would be. When this card is Summoned: You can add 1 Normal or Union Machine-Type Monster from your Deck to your Hand. You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck that lists "V-Tiger Jet", "W-Wing Catapult", "X-Head Cannon", "Y-Dragon Head", or "Z-Metal Tank", as Fusion Material, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster. Any Monster Special Summoned by this effect cannot be destroyed by card effects. You can only use this effect of "New Age Union: XYZ" once per duel. I purposely excluded VWXYZ Dragon Catapult Cannon from the effect because it's too powerful if that guy is included. Legitimate targets for new effect: VW-Tiger Catapult XY-Dragon Cannon XZ-Tank Cannon YZ-Tank Dragon XYZ-Dragon Cannon Also, -Someone- DID give constructive criticism, YOU get out. Don't bring up your "6 years" of experience. I've been playing since it came to America, about 18 years. I see your point, I've been playing 12 years. Though 18 is since the Copyright in 1996. Back then it was the copyright of the Yugioh brand, when the card game wasn't even the biggest part of Yugioh and was still intended as a one-shot episode of the original series. Or rather, the original manga was in it's early stages. It was until around 1998 (16 years ago) that Bandai made it's collection. Then it was until 1999 (15 years ago) that Konami even got a hold of them. It was then until around late 2001 that the game came to TCG around 13 years ago. I think 18 years is a bit off. Regardless I do agree, years of experience don't factor in this. I've seen few week players get pretty good and 5-year ones be pretty crappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Hate Snatch Steal Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 He's talking about this effect, not the materials:You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck with "V", "W", "X", "Y", or "Z" in its name, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster. "V" "W" "X" "Y" and "Z" are all single letters, meaning this card can Summon any Fusion Monster in the Extra Deck whose name includes any of those 5 letters. Also, everyone, the effect says Special Summon, not Fusion Summon, Chimeratech specifies that it has to be Fusion Summoned. Calm your tits. Ignoring the conditions for him with just make a 0/0 L9 [spoiler="Legitimate Targets"] Barox Bikuribox Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast Cyber Blader Cyber End Dragon Cyber Ogre 2 Cyber Saurus Cyber Twin Dragon Dragoness the Wicked Knight Flame Swordsman Flower Wolf Gaia Drake, the Universal Force Gem-Knight Zirconia Humanoid Worm Drake Ignition Beast Volcanion Kamionwizard Karbonala Warrior Kwagar Hercules Labyrinth Tank The Last Warrior From Another Planet Master of Oz Mavelus Mystical Sand Naturia Exterio Panzer Dragon Ryu Senshi Sanwitch Steam Gyroid Super Robolady Super Roboyarou Super Vehichroid - Stealth Union Super Vehicroid Jumbo Drill Superalloy Beast Raptinus Thousand-Eyes Restrict Twin Photon Lizard Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon VW-Tiger Catapult VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon Vermillion Sparrow Vision HERO Adoration Vision HERO Trinity Warrior of Tradition Worm Zero XY-Dragon Cannon XZ-Tank Cannon XYZ-Dragon Cannon YZ-Tank Dragon Yakushi the Skull Knight Zombie Warrior [/spoiler] A better way to get your effect properly would be. When this card is Summoned: You can add 1 Normal or Union Machine-Type Monster from your Deck to your Hand. You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck that lists "V-Tiger Jet", "W-Wing Catapult", "X-Head Cannon", "Y-Dragon Head", or "Z-Metal Tank", as Fusion Material, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster. Any Monster Special Summoned by this effect cannot be destroyed by card effects. You can only use this effect of "New Age Union: XYZ" once per duel. I purposely excluded VWXYZ Dragon Catapult Cannon from the effect because it's too powerful if that guy is included. Legitimate targets for new effect: VW-Tiger Catapult XY-Dragon Cannon XZ-Tank Cannon YZ-Tank Dragon XYZ-Dragon Cannon Also, -Someone- DID give constructive criticism, YOU get out. Don't bring up your "6 years" of experience. I've been playing since it came to America, about 18 years. Props and a like for making a list. The last warrior from another planet lockdown anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ah, well, I've been playing for 13 then, I bought the first cards ever put in the local card shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death00 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Thank you, finally someone who isn't a smartass. if you can't take smartasses, you shouldn't be alive, there are smartasses all over. on topic now, Xyz are not fusion, Xyz can't say specific monster because then they'd just be fusions. i might say: 3 Level 4 Machine Type Monsters whose names are listed as the Fusion Materials of a Machine Type Fusion Monster, in your Side/ Extra Deck whose name includes "XYZ" or 3 Level 4 Machine Type Monsters whose names are listed as the Fusion Materials of a Machine Type Fusion Monster, in your Side/ Extra Deck, whose name is "XYZ-Dragon Cannon" that would solve your problems (p.s. there might be some errors in my ocg, but it's better) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Hate Snatch Steal Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 He's talking about this effect, not the materials:You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck with "V", "W", "X", "Y", or "Z" in its name, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster. "V" "W" "X" "Y" and "Z" are all single letters, meaning this card can Summon any Fusion Monster in the Extra Deck whose name includes any of those 5 letters. Also, everyone, the effect says Special Summon, not Fusion Summon, Chimeratech specifies that it has to be Fusion Summoned. Calm your tits. Ignoring the conditions for him with just make a 0/0 L9 [spoiler="Legitimate Targets"] Barox Bikuribox Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast Cyber Blader Cyber End Dragon Cyber Ogre 2 Cyber Saurus Cyber Twin Dragon Dragoness the Wicked Knight Flame Swordsman Flower Wolf Gaia Drake, the Universal Force Gem-Knight Zirconia Humanoid Worm Drake Ignition Beast Volcanion Kamionwizard Karbonala Warrior Kwagar Hercules Labyrinth Tank The Last Warrior From Another Planet Master of Oz Mavelus Mystical Sand Naturia Exterio Panzer Dragon Ryu Senshi Sanwitch Steam Gyroid Super Robolady Super Roboyarou Super Vehichroid - Stealth Union Super Vehicroid Jumbo Drill Superalloy Beast Raptinus Thousand-Eyes Restrict Twin Photon Lizard Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon VW-Tiger Catapult VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon Vermillion Sparrow Vision HERO Adoration Vision HERO Trinity Warrior of Tradition Worm Zero XY-Dragon Cannon XZ-Tank Cannon XYZ-Dragon Cannon YZ-Tank Dragon Yakushi the Skull Knight Zombie Warrior [/spoiler] A better way to get your effect properly would be. When this card is Summoned: You can add 1 Normal or Union Machine-Type Monster from your Deck to your Hand. You can detach all Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck that lists "V-Tiger Jet", "W-Wing Catapult", "X-Head Cannon", "Y-Dragon Head", or "Z-Metal Tank", as Fusion Material, then banish all Fusion Material Monsters listed on the card from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard, then Special Summon the targeted monster. Any Monster Special Summoned by this effect cannot be destroyed by card effects. You can only use this effect of "New Age Union: XYZ" once per duel. I purposely excluded VWXYZ Dragon Catapult Cannon from the effect because it's too powerful if that guy is included. Legitimate targets for new effect: VW-Tiger Catapult XY-Dragon Cannon XZ-Tank Cannon YZ-Tank Dragon XYZ-Dragon Cannon Also, -Someone- DID give constructive criticism, YOU get out. Don't bring up your "6 years" of experience. I've been playing since it came to America, about 18 years. Don't forget Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyWeaponsSpy Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Okay, I seriously give up on all of you idiots. I regret making this a thread in the first place. If you don't have the materials in your deck, you can't summon the fusion monster. Simple as that. Why the hell would you be running anything else in an Xyz Dragon Cannon deck? So by all of your logic it would be a good idea to throw all these random ass archetypes in the deck? I will say it once more just so everyone has it down: YOU HAVE TO BANISH THE EXACT MATERIALS OF THE FUSION MONSTER FROM YOU HAND, DECK, OR GRAVEYARD. Go ahead and try to summon something outside of the Xyz Dragon Cannon archetype with this thing. It'll be a challenge. I thought it would be fun to show off support for dying archetypes, but I was wrong. Continue your circlejerk in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 You realize that a player could just splash this into a random Deck by adding two Machine-types. And BAM alternative pathway to their Boss Monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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