Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V

[~British Soul~]

not to mention no TV show has ever alluded explicitly to the existence of a banlist like the ones we see IRL.

Let me think.... in GX when Dimitri summoned BLS-EotB, Bastion said that Chaos Emperor Dragon was outlawed.

 

Remember Super Poly is not banned yet in the OCG, not to mention no TV show has ever alluded explicitly to the existence of a banlist like the ones we see IRL. So, while the circumstances may be different from above, it's not unlikely that we see Yuuri or other high ranking member of Academia using that card someday.

I still think we won't see Super Fusion in Arc V though.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

hey, they gave Shun Rank up magics, despite those being a magical McGuffin in zexal.

 

I hope we see Reira vs Tatsuya too. He was the only one who noticed something off about Reira from the start. That and I'm still pissed Reira synchro summoned off screen.

 

Yeah, we never got to see WHAT Reira summoned, but all we know is that Futoshi got killed by it.

Maybe we'll see it once Reira starts being relevant to the plot again; along with any Xyz that he might use (assuming he's like Reiji)

 

Then again, I would assume he has more monsters than that one Main Deck monster; since we know Past Eye isn't a Tuner.

[Pchi]

Given what Super Fusion is in GX, it's actually extremely unlikely.

Yeah, but we still don't know for sure if the four dimensions really are the exact same universe(s) where the previous series took place or if it's all just a big homage by the creators to those installments.

[~British Soul~]

Le RAW: http://www.anime4you.net/watch/yu-gi-oh-arc-v-episode-43.html

[heraldry_lord]

I still think we won't see Super Fusion in Arc V though.

 

There's nothing stopping them from having a card like it in Arc-V; in fact, given Akaba Leo's intention for the 4 dimensions, it wouldn't surprise me if we did see Super Poly or some alternate version of it.

[~British Soul~]

There's nothing stopping them from having a card like it in Arc-V; in fact, given Akaba Leo's intention for the 4 dimensions, it wouldn't surprise me if we did see Super Poly or some alternate version of it.

I know there's nothing stopping them, I just don't see it being used though. I'd prefer to see an alt version of it than Super Fusion tbh.

Something less broken basically.

[The Warden]

...Maybe it's just me, but it anyone else getting a Chinese Zodiac vibe from those Ryouzanpako guys? I mean, the guy with Fuujin is obviously the rat, and, by the looks of it his partner with Raijin is the horse (I think?).

[Timeline15]

[spoiler=episode 43] Well, Dennis seems nice, though he looks a lot more creepy in the next time preview. I wonder where they're actually going with him... It's a good job one loss doesn't eliminate you, I would hate to see gongenzaka go out in a duel we only saw one turn of. Also, looks like those upcoming episode previews were legit, and Sora's coming back in full force. Awesome! [/spoiler]

[Βyakuya]

[spoiler=Episode Thoughts]

Burn Damage

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Burn Damage

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And on top of that...

MORE BURN DAMAGE

 

Aside from that all, I thoroughly enjoyed the episode. Yuzu made a pro move with Bloom Diva and Defusion. Never expected it, but it all at least avenges Gogenzaka after a BS death I gotta say. Still Gogenzaka did his best despite his unexpected loss, and we saw Nintendo-G and the new Superheavy Sams.

 

Dennis was a very colorful and likable guy too. Though in the preview he was a bit too creepy with Yuzu...what's with that sudden change towards another of your kind? Yuya also redeemed his passion as well. Resorted to Dark Rebellion this time, only this time he was able to control his instincts and Dennis was able to make the win more impressive. Not much different but it just says to Ryonzanpaku to f***k themselves harder with DRxD butthurt, and Yuya's got no problems.

 

Sora makes a return too. Gotta love that slasher smile. Everything's looking great again.[/spoiler]

[~British Soul~]

[spoiler=episode 43] It's a good job one loss doesn't eliminate you, I would hate to see gongenzaka go out in a duel we only saw one turn of. [/spoiler]

[spoiler=Response]

If you remember from the last episode, when you lose you fork over a pendulum statue to the loser and the 8 with the highest amount after 24 hours advance.

[/spoiler]

 

[spoiler=Thoughts on 43 RAW]

- So Yuzu crashes into Olga which automatically tags her with Gongenzaka (who was duelling her), that was ok, but when Dennis randomly stepped in to defend Yuya he gets a 2k penalty? Ok...
I think the reasoning is that Yuzu crashed into Olga inbetween turns, whereas Dennis stepped in during someone else's turn (Albeit during the End Phase).
- So Olga's synchro can negate spells or something, at least Gongenzaka's level 1 monster redirected the attack though, saving Yuzu from losing.
 - On another note, it was nice to see Gongenzaka use the level 6 Superheavy Synchro (The one from the JUMP poll)
- It was amusing to see Dennis summon the Flame Eaters before Yuya got a chance to activate the Action Magic card (Which was most likely Flame BallSparks).
- The BG music from the snippet before the opening played when Dennis Xyz summoned, and it certainly reminded Yuya of his dad when Dennis was swinging around on it.
- Shun's still being bland off-screen, beating the Knight of duels with Rise Falcon, though they want a rematch in the next episode it seems.
- Yuya is still feeling a strange sensation coming from DRXD, at least he didn't go into berserk mode this time.
 - Although Dennis' monster just HAD to have a double attacking effect didn't it.
- I wonder what the fishing bloke wants with Michio though, but the latter looks to be encountering Halil and Olga next episode.
- Meanwhile, the ninjas are nowhere to be seen, but who cares about them?

 

Also slasher smile Sora HYPE

[/spoiler]

[evilfusion]

Looking forward to next episode more. So far those wiki previews are seeming legit.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

[spoiler=43]

• Ryouzanpaku gets their asses kicked again by DRXD, this time with a 2 kill OTK. In a few episodes, we'll forget that those characters ever existed in the franchise.
• Yuya almost went berserk, but didn't. At least the crowd enjoyed this match.
• Dennis was pretty comical, and I recall him saying something that he's Yusho's junior or something. That probably explains why his style looks very similar.
• I was right about the Red Angel part; though in Yuya's case, he probably didn't need the statues; but whatever. I wasn't checking his hand though.
• So Halil and Olga are out this round, k.
• Knight of Duels lost to Shun, but they return next episode.
• In time, we'll see Michio and that fisherman whose name I cbb to remember, because he's not important, duel. (Now if only Serena hadn't intervened, it'd be Hokuto fighting, and pretty sure Hokuto would lay waste to that fisherman).
• So Dennis gets a 2K penalty for joining the duel, whereas Yuzu didn't. Probably due to Dennis intervening at the End Phase, whereas Yuzu got in somewhere else. I don't know, the mechanics are weird.

[/spoiler]

 

Overall, a nice episode.

[The Warden]

I think Dennis took the penalty because he intervened on an already active duel when he wasn't dueling himself. Yuzu and Halil didn't intervene on the duel between Olga and Gogenzaka on purpose, but I assume it was natural for the Battle Royale mode to assume it as a tag duel instead of two singles because both duels were active. So I guess Dennis got the penalty by intruding on an active duel.

[Blake]

[spoiler='My thoughts on Ep 42 and some about the show in general']I have to be honest, I found myself liking this much more than I expected, given that I loathe Pendulums. Yuya is an interesting character, kinda like Season 2 Jaden (Season 1 Jaden was a funny dickhead, but he became an actual three-dimensional character only starting from season 2). The duels are usually quite interesting (except that one with Eita the Quiz Kid, but well, he sucked anyway), the plot is REALLY promising, with hints of realism and darkness I honestly never saw except maybe in the later seasons of DM, ALL summoning methods are included, not just Pendulums, characters use (also) realistic decks and strategies and MOST IMPORTANTLY: NOT EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THE PROTAGONIST. Finally. As much as I loved GX and 5D's, even there it eventually all came down to Jaden and friends/Yusei being the Messiah. Here, instead, we have a character who has the actual competence and power to be leading the defense of Earth (BLESS YOU REIJI) instead of the tired old "14-year-old boy who was nobody until yesterday saves the world". Not that I don't expect Yuya to overtake partially the plot later (he IS the protagonist, after all), but I am confident, from what I've seen up until now, that the writers will try to keep all characters relevant. Also: Yuzu and Gongenzaka duel, and their duels are usually just as plot-relevant as Yuya's (Yuzu gets the least, sadly... it's kinda evident that either writers or producers still wince a bit at the idea of a girl dueling, like YUCK, but they're trying, and I give them credit for this). Then there's the whole business with Shun, the dimensions, etc. which I personally really like.

Ah, by the way, despite what everyone here says about Shun's dueling style being boring and no-fun, I actually liked how they set up his deck: it's clear that it's made specifically to counter the aggro/swarming decks his opponents use, and turn the tables in situations of complete inferiority. It fits him not just thematically, but also logically: since he's ALWAYS outnumbered, he WILL have a deck made to counter that specific kind of situations. Yeah, it gets pretty boring after a while, and they COULD have shown him using searchers to justify his always having the right card at the right time, but hell, I'll overlook this one for now.

On Ep 42: I really liked it. Reiji keeps it grand as always and turns the entire city into a giant arena. Which is a bit of a stretch, but I can believe it. The duels are interesting (the Ryozanpaku guys confirm themselves as the hate-sinks (to say it with TvTropes) of the show: total amoral jerks that are fun to hate. Though I don't agree with people saying that Yuya should defend himself. First of all, he doesn't WANT to fight his opponents with fists, it goes against what he believes, but most importantly... if he tried kicking his opponents, he'd just get pummeled more. They're two trained martial artists, he's only an amateur circus acrobat. I honestly think that trying to evade them rather than fight is the only smart thing the poor guy can do.

That said, I like Halil. His horrible English accent is funny as hell, and he's a decent guy. The duel turning into a tag duel at the end was a bit of an excuse to cut on screen time, but I'm not really against it. It's an example of how you can get away with this kind of things by DOING THEM RIGHT. I also liked how Yuya would've been royally hosed had the Broadway guy (whose name I don't remember right now) coming in to save his ass. Finally, a protagonist who DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE A COUNTER FOR EVERYTHING. It makes Yuya human and relatable, while still allowing him to not lose important duels. I'm amazed at what Yu-gi-oh screenwriters can do when they really put their mind to it. Yeah, I know that this might sound corny as hell, but... finally, they're practicing what they preach: going past their limits, correcting their mistakes, all in order make the audience really happy. It's... almost moving...

Yeah, that was corny as fuck. Feel free to laugh at me :D[/spoiler]

I cannot like this post enough.

 

My only real discrepancy is that it's not just Shun's deck that's boring and flat, he is, too. Like, he got a really good scene in 41 that got a laugh out of me and my gf, but e's overall been... shitty. That said, the very scene I mentioned gives me hope.

[Kazooie]

[spoiler='My thoughts on Ep 42 and some about the show in general']I have to be honest, I found myself liking this much more than I expected, given that I loathe Pendulums. Yuya is an interesting character, kinda like Season 2 Jaden (Season 1 Jaden was a funny dickhead, but he became an actual three-dimensional character only starting from season 2). The duels are usually quite interesting (except that one with Eita the Quiz Kid, but well, he sucked anyway), the plot is REALLY promising, with hints of realism and darkness I honestly never saw except maybe in the later seasons of DM, ALL summoning methods are included, not just Pendulums, characters use (also) realistic decks and strategies and MOST IMPORTANTLY: NOT EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THE PROTAGONIST. Finally. As much as I loved GX and 5D's, even there it eventually all came down to Jaden and friends/Yusei being the Messiah. Here, instead, we have a character who has the actual competence and power to be leading the defense of Earth (BLESS YOU REIJI) instead of the tired old "14-year-old boy who was nobody until yesterday saves the world". Not that I don't expect Yuya to overtake partially the plot later (he IS the protagonist, after all), but I am confident, from what I've seen up until now, that the writers will try to keep all characters relevant. Also: Yuzu and Gongenzaka duel, and their duels are usually just as plot-relevant as Yuya's (Yuzu gets the least, sadly... it's kinda evident that either writers or producers still wince a bit at the idea of a girl dueling, like YUCK, but they're trying, and I give them credit for this). Then there's the whole business with Shun, the dimensions, etc. which I personally really like.

Ah, by the way, despite what everyone here says about Shun's dueling style being boring and no-fun, I actually liked how they set up his deck: it's clear that it's made specifically to counter the aggro/swarming decks his opponents use, and turn the tables in situations of complete inferiority. It fits him not just thematically, but also logically: since he's ALWAYS outnumbered, he WILL have a deck made to counter that specific kind of situations. Yeah, it gets pretty boring after a while, and they COULD have shown him using searchers to justify his always having the right card at the right time, but hell, I'll overlook this one for now.

On Ep 42: I really liked it. Reiji keeps it grand as always and turns the entire city into a giant arena. Which is a bit of a stretch, but I can believe it. The duels are interesting (the Ryozanpaku guys confirm themselves as the hate-sinks (to say it with TvTropes) of the show: total amoral jerks that are fun to hate. Though I don't agree with people saying that Yuya should defend himself. First of all, he doesn't WANT to fight his opponents with fists, it goes against what he believes, but most importantly... if he tried kicking his opponents, he'd just get pummeled more. They're two trained martial artists, he's only an amateur circus acrobat. I honestly think that trying to evade them rather than fight is the only smart thing the poor guy can do.

That said, I like Halil. His horrible English accent is funny as hell, and he's a decent guy. The duel turning into a tag duel at the end was a bit of an excuse to cut on screen time, but I'm not really against it. It's an example of how you can get away with this kind of things by DOING THEM RIGHT. I also liked how Yuya would've been royally hosed had the Broadway guy (whose name I don't remember right now) coming in to save his ass. Finally, a protagonist who DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE A COUNTER FOR EVERYTHING. It makes Yuya human and relatable, while still allowing him to not lose important duels. I'm amazed at what Yu-gi-oh screenwriters can do when they really put their mind to it. Yeah, I know that this might sound corny as hell, but... finally, they're practicing what they preach: going past their limits, correcting their mistakes, all in order make the audience really happy. It's... almost moving...

Yeah, that was corny as f***. Feel free to laugh at me :D[/spoiler]

 

For the most part, your post is great, yeah I agree.

 

Except for Shun...

 

The issue is, so far all his duels aren't just "answers" they're plain bull. You can only have so much responses without any ability to really search. If they had taken the time to introduce more cards, say during his duel against the LDS students, I wouldn't have as big an issue. Instead they wanted to play him up as dark and 3edgeh5us and it worked so much against them.

 

He's been a bland, insufferable... BLOB that almost makes me want Sora's fraction to win just because at least HE has personality. Shun has had one good scene so far that gave him emotion beyond "rawr imma edge", and unless they really pick up the pace, I'm afraid he's going to remain a stain on what's been a generally positive experience.

 

Yeah, it makes sense for him to be such a responsive player, but don't have all his responses be so... Stupid. Don't have him play just one main deck monster when you could easily expand the archetype with multiple chances to do so.

 

It's just a really disappointing way to handle a character after so many other good choices. x-x

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

For the most part, your post is great, yeah I agree.
 
Except for Shun...
 
The issue is, so far all his duels aren't just "answers" they're plain bull. You can only have so much responses without any ability to really search. If they had taken the time to introduce more cards, say during his duel against the LDS students, I wouldn't have as big an issue. Instead they wanted to play him up as dark and 3edgeh5us and it worked so much against them.
 
He's been a bland, insufferable... BLOB that almost makes me want Sora's fraction to win just because at least HE has personality. Shun has had one good scene so far that gave him emotion beyond "rawr imma edge", and unless they really pick up the pace, I'm afraid he's going to remain a stain on what's been a generally positive experience.
 
Yeah, it makes sense for him to be such a responsive player, but don't have all his responses be so... Stupid. Don't have him play just one main deck monster when you could easily expand the archetype with multiple chances to do so.
 
It's just a really disappointing way to handle a character after so many other good choices. x-x

Since I reached my Like quota on Homo's thread, I totally agree. Shun isn't really that interesting. Yuto was the more interesting of the two Xyz Dimension characters.
Also, the conflict so far seems rather...arbitrary. Reo had Academia attack the Xyz Dimension...because he wanted to...while the Xyz Dimension people are attacking anyone with Fusion Monsters, and the Fusion Dimension people are attacking anyone with Xyz Monsters...because of revenge or something...We know there IS a conflict between dimensions, and we know Reiji's father is most likely our series' Big Bad, but other than collecting all 4 Yuzu analogues, we don't really have a reason for a good portion of the characters' motivations, and it shows. People just hate each other because of what cards they u- OH MY YU YEVON IT'S A PARALLEL TO THE META.
I'm...not sure how to feel about that...

[evilfusion]

I don't really dislike Shun as a character, but mostly because he continues to linger on a grey morality scale. He started off seeming like an antagonist, but is currently really questionable. Since the Fusion factor is shaping up to be the real antagonists, Shun is an anti-hero...but admittedly his stance as such is ridiculously blatant, probably because of the "edginess" his character gives off.

 

Let's not forget that Shun really did defeat a bunch of LDS staff and turned them into cards. So far there's been no indication whatsoever that he can turn them back. Or that anyone can turn them back. Even Serena locked Hokuto in a card and just gave the card to Reiji later, who so far has not been able to free people from cards, either.

 

The card-sealing thing is being somewhat kept in the background, but it seems like something that really bugs me about Shun's morality. Even if he's no longer directly antagonistic towards LDS, the lack of clarity on how to undo card-sealing seems like a morality stain on his character. Edgy or not, it's difficult to view Shun as a truly likeable character. Maybe that's the point, that he isn't really supposed to be likeable like a "buddy-buddy" relationship, but this type of personality is very tricky to write.

[Sleepy]

One of my issues with Shun is that half the time he had no real answers to his opponents. The writers might as well have given him a full extra hand of all-damage-covering Waboku hand-traps that don't count towards the limit of your hand in the duel with Sora. Action Cards have always been cheap outs, but no one in this show abuses this concept as much as Shun, who always seems to be able to evade attacks long enough to find an Action Card, and his found Action Cards all happen to protect him. Heck even for everyone else, they mostly act like they know what Action Card they are gonna grab, and although at the beginning it seemed like Action Cards were this mystery box with a variety of potential effects, it just quickly narrowed down characters ignoring them unless they need a Waboku-like effect.

 

There are exceptions to this like that lava section of the field which had mostly half-Sparks Action Cards, but I can almost guarantee that if Yuya had grabbed any of them first it would have happened to be a defensive effect. Just because Yuya grabbed it and needed the effect.

 

As for Shun's side, I'll cut him some slack on the personality department. He obviously doesn't wanna rest until his sibling is safe, and his whole world was devastated along with everybody he ever knew, and now he knows something obviously happened to his only remaining comrade. I'd also be pretty pissed and demand a solution ASAP. He obviously doesn't take breaks for fun in this situation.

 

His deck has been awfully narrow up until now too, but if he uses the other cards from his archetype (and he probably will) then I have no complaints there...

[ななし]

When will we know more of Synchro Dimension? :/

[Timeline15]

Hopefully soon. Synchros have sorta been getting the shaft thus far. What with being largely not involved in the war. Not to mention we have Yuto and Shun for xys, Yuri and Serena for fusion, and thus far only Yugo for synchro, and he has less development than any of them. AND it's the one summon type Yuya hasn't used yet. I really hope that this is all building up to them contributing in a big way, rather than being shafted in favour of the things we just got tonnes of in zexal.

[Sleepy]

Synchros will be fine.

I think Yugo's appearance is just to acknowledge the sorting algorithm of evil. Like, he's not important for the intended focus right now, but in shows it often can happen that you get over a big bad and finish your arc, and upon the next one you might at some point think "where were these guys before and how come this sort of stuff never interrupts the previous issues directly related to the story?

 

They are just letting us know they exist for now, which is much more than I can say they are doing with any chances of a Ritual dimension.

We got a little bit of that in previous series with Dartz (filler I know) being shown in the crowd when Atem passed through in his horse chasing Bakura with his Slifer, a full season before it happened, or some guy from Illiaster meeting up with the still living Rudger starting up his issue with the marks probably even before Yusei was born.

 

Although if my theory is right, this would be the best execution of it in the show so far. I was also gonna mention Nightshroud but to be honest I don't remember exactly what the deal was with him, and from ZeXal there was no foreshadowing to really speak of, they seemed like they didn't quite know how to tackle things much of the time even for their main focus...

[evilfusion]

. Heck even for everyone else, they mostly act like they know what Action Card they are gonna grab, and although at the beginning it seemed like Action Cards were this mystery box with a variety of potential effects, it just quickly narrowed down characters ignoring them unless they need a Waboku-like effect.

 

There are exceptions to this like that lava section of the field which had mostly half-Sparks Action Cards, but I can almost guarantee that if Yuya had grabbed any of them first it would have happened to be a defensive effect. Just because Yuya grabbed it and needed the effect.

 

 

 

This is a two-fold issue with the concept of Action Cards in general. A lot of them do exactly that: They're defensive answers, or they're anti-defensive answers. While several of them protect monsters from destruction, reduce damage, etc, just as many do things that modify attack, negate defensive effects or modifiers, etc.

 

And you're probably right about the Flame Ball thing. Yuya was thwarted from getting 2 Action Cards. Both of them were Flame Balls. His opponents even acknowledged that the Field seemed to have Flame Balls galore, so they actually sought out Action Cards themselves to try to take out Yuya's remaining 200 LP. Yuya got one Action Card, and was always about to activate it whenever they tried to Flame Ball him (but Dennis just negated the damage with his monsters). Yuya's Action Card was almost certainly an anti-burn card.

 

As for the Synchro dimension, Yugo is the only known character, and the Xyz faction thinks he's working with the Fusion users. Reiji noted it'd be foolish to antagonize Yugo because that might start a conflict with the Synchro dimension.

 

The Synchro dimension will almost certainly be important later, but the Fusion factor seems to want to stomp out the remaining Xyz faction (at least Sora does) first.

[Pchi]

I don't really dislike Shun as a character, but mostly because he continues to linger on a grey morality scale. He started off seeming like an antagonist, but is currently really questionable. Since the Fusion factor is shaping up to be the real antagonists, Shun is an anti-hero...but admittedly his stance as such is ridiculously blatant, probably because of the "edginess" his character gives off.

 

Let's not forget that Shun really did defeat a bunch of LDS staff and turned them into cards. So far there's been no indication whatsoever that he can turn them back. Or that anyone can turn them back. Even Serena locked Hokuto in a card and just gave the card to Reiji later, who so far has not been able to free people from cards, either.

 

The card-sealing thing is being somewhat kept in the background, but it seems like something that really bugs me about Shun's morality. Even if he's no longer directly antagonistic towards LDS, the lack of clarity on how to undo card-sealing seems like a morality stain on his character. Edgy or not, it's difficult to view Shun as a truly likeable character. Maybe that's the point, that he isn't really supposed to be likeable like a "buddy-buddy" relationship, but this type of personality is very tricky to write.

 

Look, there's no dobut he's a big jerk, even fi he works towards a good cause. But bear in mind, at the time, he was convinced Leo Corporation was still under Leo Akaba's control; so, from his respective, Tio, Marco and the others were just as villainous as any other Academia lackey. Though one may argue if that'd make his actions any more justified. On the other hand, I have a feeling he still doesn't trust Reiji wholeheartedly, which may explain why he isn't too keen on finding out how to bring the LDS personnel he carded back. But that's only a theory.

Also, I'm starting to wonder if the exact card that the duelist gets when they grab an Action Card isn't defined only after they've picked it up, adjusting itself to the situation at hand, at least in some cases. That'd explain all the conveniences, and it wouldn't be a far-fetched excuse since the cards themselves are holograms created by the Solid Vision System.

[spoiler='On Ep. 44']Wow, was that the first time a female character in YGO finished off two opponents at once by herself on-screen? Is it sad that I'm glad to be able to live long enough to witness that?[/spoiler]

[~British Soul~]

Le SUBS: http://www.anime4you.net/watch/yu-gi-oh-arc-v-episode-43.html

[JessicaMuddy]

Le Subs are already out!

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