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Apparently, the girls are far more important to the overarching arc than the boys, so there's that.

You're right. But the problem is, the way they established that importance up to now served mostly to make them plot coupons instead of important players. Yuzu's biggest contributions to the plot have less to do with the mysterious powers of her bracelet and more with her decisions - which is great, actually, but also reduces her role as a Bracelet Girl arc to mere living macguffin. I don't know, I just wished she was able to use her powers in a more pro-active way like Yuuya does. I don't like it that the way the plot is established requires her, Serena, Ruri and Rin to perpetually act as potential damsels-in-distress that hold the key to the fate of the world because of something they can't even control since that's so cliché and tired. Not that I want Yuya and the others to suffer the same fate, mind you.

Ok, guys, I can't totally understand where you come from. Arc-V is indeed a breath of fresh air compared to ZeXal in terms of gender politics; it's just, to me, the progresses made so far are still fairly mediocre compared to other shows - they may be huge to the YGO franchise overall, but to me at least, they're still not satisfactory.

EDIT: Ok, we had this week's episode for Yuzu to take advantage of the bracelet, but I personally would prefer if they didn't stop there and escalated a little more.

EDIT2: And we still have to figure out the mystery behind the Yuu's and their dragons and how it affects the story overall.

EDIT3: Also, mods, could you delete one of my repeated replies? Sorry again for the outburst.

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[spoiler=This episode was awesome]

Yuya LOST... wow. Wasn't expecting that to happen. Especially not to Sergey. WHo was also so cool in this episode with the sudden jets. Wow.

 

This feels like a good loss for Yuya, honestly. A lot happened in this duel symbolically, particularly the discarding of Smile World. He's discarding his ideals to protect those he cares about with the destroying of that field spell, which is actually a good middle ground with what he's been struggling with for 20 episodes now, and not just "EGAO JABRONI" or "funk EGAO". Incidentally, I think that's the first time we've seen a non-Action Feld Spell this entire series (not counting Speed World Neo).

 

I WANT TO SEE YUGO VS YURI SO BAD. AAAAAGH WAI U NO STARVE VENOM. But I fully acknowledge Yuri and Yugo needed to leave. Not the time to merge yet for sure, I just wish we'd gotten to see more of their duel. Cut to them or something. Maybe next episode. Hell, what happened to them at all, actually? Yuri may have gotten sent back to Academia for all we know.

 

 

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Well, a lot of people did want to see more of Starve Venom Fusion Dragon considering that we were hyping it since it appeared in episode 47 or something, and then the moment was ruined. That, and get more info on Yuri's playstyle or even what the hell Predator Plants do.

 

Anyway, thoughts.

 

[spoiler=92]

  • Would've liked to see more of Starve Venom Fusion Dragon (and Yuri in general), but as Yuzu interfered, we didn't get to see more of it. We'll probably see it again later.
    • Though, the sky did turn ominous after all of the dragons were out, so...
  • If Barrett had continued his attack that turn, Yuya would've lost anyway (whether he continued the match 1 on 1, or contended with Sergey anyway)
  • Sergey plays Earthbound support? Well, I suppose that means EBIs might become relevant again (emphasis on "might" because it relies on Konami releasing them in the first place, and what they do to the cards otherwise)
    • Probably might be a more stable Deck for him, despite him requiring a Field Spell to do stuff.
    • Oh yeah, and OTKing in one turn.
  • Someone explain how the hell he got to attack on Yuya's turn (since pretty sure Yuya didn't announce that he was finished).
  • Serena got sent back to the Academia; Yuzu got captured by Sergey (so JMR actually succeeded in doing something, even if not completely).
  • Sergey has booster rockets now? Well, that was unexpected (and Sora, Tsuchikage and the like got beaten up)

 

 

 

[spoiler=Preview]

I would've thought that the tournament was canceled because of the invasion, but suppose that the Obelisk Force pretty much were creamed (or left after Barrett got screwed over), so suppose things work out. As for Yuri/Yugo, likely in the Fusion Dimension now or something.

 

At least Jack is dueling again, so this should be fun.

 

 

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[spoiler=A concern]Why is Yuzu the only one whose bracelet is actually playing an active role in keeping the Yuyas separate? I seriously want to know what the deal is here; we're 92 episodes in, and the details behind this whole phenomenon are still vague.

 

Another reason I wish we saw more of what's going on in Academia was my desire for Leo to give us a little bit more exposition on why he wants these girls.

 

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[spoiler=Actually]

Serena's bracelet seems to draw the Yu Crew to her (note how she is never far from at least 1 Yu), instead of Yuzu's forcibly separating them. Presumably, Ruri's and Rin's have something to do with the synchronizing thing Yuya and Yuto did.

 

 

 

This seems like a bit of a stretch to me, but I can't argue one way or the other, since we don't have too much concrete stuff to go on.

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As I mentioned earlier, they were probably hyped for an epic battle between Yugo and Yuri to take place this episode (and possibly revealing more of Yuri's cards); a reminder that he hasn't made an appearance for over 40+ episodes [due to the plot] and we FINALLY get to see him duel / the identity of his dragon. And yes, the synchronized Berserk Mode.

 

But since Yuzu's bracelet sent them somewhere (likely the Fusion Dimension or something along those lines), we didn't get to see any further than one turn each for them, and that's likely why people are peeved. There may be different/additional reasons for their anger at Yuzu though, other than the above.

 

We'll probably get a proper match between those two at a later time, though (likely after the match between Jack/Yuya concludes or something along those lines). Don't think the Synchro arc will end anytime soon.

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So, that's a thing.

 

We've already met Crow and Jack, so what's stopping us from running into Yuma and/or other ZeXal cast members in Xyz, if an excuse is found to go? Or anyone from GX in Fusion?

Well, nothing outright, but...

 

A. Yusei doesn't exist, Jaden seems not to. Unlikely Yuma does, most likely just a nod.

B. Shark and Kaito are kinda absorbed into Shun. It's more likely that Kaito could show up, but Shark seems unlikely, given Shun's increased similarity to him, including his predicament involving his sister.

 

Probably will see someone during the shrot Xyz arc, just not Yuma, and likely not Shark.

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My hope is that they don't bring back more old series characters. Arc-V has plenty of characters to work with and expand on, without relying on "familiar faces" from other series. The only reason Jack and Crow get a pass is because the Synchro Dimension is handled more or less like a 5Ds AU, and they work perfectly well in this context due to the Synchro Dimension using the 5Ds shtick of Riding Duels.

 

Zexal DEFINITELY doesn't need any returning characters. Not many of them are particularly well-known or iconic, and Zexal's plot focused on the Astral World vs Barian World, with the Numbers being the key components to this conflict. Although Arc V explicitly references Heartland enough to make a case as a Zexal AU of sorts, Shun makes enough of a reference to that with Rank-Up-Magic. I could realistically see the Xyz Dimension as a "future" version of Heartland, taking place long after the series' conclusion, whereas the Synchro Dimension seems to be taking place in a literal AU, where Z-ONE didn't interfere with things, so no Zero Reverse and the consequences associated with it. Jack and Crow in 5Ds were born in the Satellite, so they would logically be Commons in the Synchro Dimension. If anything, Yusei would have been among the Tops.

 

The Fusion Dimension doesn't need many further callbacks, either. The Antique Gear theme the soldiers use, etc and the fact Academia's on an island is more than sufficient to be an AU version of GX, but none of GX's characters need to be shown because the extent of the AU is such that none of them have any reason to be involved with Academia. None of them were likely to become Duel Soldiers.

 

Anyway, my view of the City's invasion is that it was hyped up, but ended a little anti-climactically. However, I believe this was deliberate, but handled in a weird way.

 

The Obelisk Force are suggested to be elite mooks. They're sent not to cause huge destruction, but for more subtle tasks, usually under the command of one or two higher-ranking members (Sora during Standard, Barrett and Yuri during Synchro). However, it occurred to me why this invasion seemed subpar compared to when they appeared in Standard.

 

Firstly, there was explicitly said to be about 20 of them. They travel in groups of 3 (so probably 21 total), and we saw...pretty much all of them get beaten. Reira beat like 9 of them, Yuya beat 3 of them, Sora beat 6 of them. Sergey beat at least 3 of them, and 3 under the command of Yuri retreated.

 

No one got turned into a card. This is why the whole thing completely flopped. There were no casualties on the protagonists'/City's side, so the stakes didn't escalate like when they showed up in Standard and suddenly Duels with the Obelisk Force turned dark very fast, as characters clashing with them were suddenly in danger of being eliminated entirely, and many of them DID, with several other characters only surviving because of a lucky interference by another character.

 

So the Obelisk Force literally achieved nothing. They showed up with more than twice the manpower, and got steamrolled with no casualties. This time around, only Tsukikage came anywhere close to being beaten, and the real stakes being escalated was because Barrett completely locked Yuya with ease, and Yuri showed up.

 

[spoiler=More spoily comments on episode(s)]

I actually kind of like Barrett now. He didn't matter much when he Dueled Reiji, but in his Duel with Yuya, he became a lot more likeable for several reasons.

- He outright told Yuya early on that if Yuya surrendered and gave him the information he wanted, he would spare him. That's incredibly honorable, whereas the Obelisk Force seems to delight in the opportunity to card someone.

- He seemed to commend Yuya's resolve and respected him for it, even if Yuya was being foolishly stubborn (not that I think Yuya was being dumb).

- He seems to genuinely care for or respect Serena.

 

Now, while I knew Barrett would lose, I didn't expect Sergey to do it, and I almost expected Yuya to finish him off with Odd-Eyes Rebellion after the Chains got destroyed. While fitting that Sergey finished him off, I half-expected a momentary alliance, before realizing how dumb that might have been.

 

Shame, too, because Yuya's topdeck only proved that Barrett was going to beat him. I did not expect Yuya to LOSE, but I'm kind of glad he did. Yuya was in a losing battle from the start against Barrett, so continuing against Sergey put him at an incredible disadvantage. Plus, it reminds us that Yuya is not being written as an invincible protagonist. Having the Duel actually concluded instead of interrupted or cancelled was a good move, and Sergey physically capturing Yuzu by knocking other people around reminds us that he's a powerful duelist, but also ridiculously dangerous and violent.

 

I did not expect Serena to actually be taken back to Academia. I'm very curious to see how THAT goes, because Serena doesn't want anything to do with Academia anymore, and the Professor is unlikely to let her have any semblance of freedom after she ran away and then turned rogue.

 

On that note, I'm curious to see how Sora develops from this. He's almost certainly branded a traitor now, either from the Obelisk Force reporting, or Yuri/Barrett doing so, so he can't go back to Academia anyway. I'm curious how Shun is going to react to this.

 

And I'm super sad that we didn't get to see more about Starve Venom. Like its effect. Seeing it Summoned will have to do, but still...I wanted to know what else it can do.

 

 

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I hope Starve Venom is rlly good as well. To be fair all the Dimensional Dragons have so far turned out to be good cards; The worst one is probably Dark Rebellion and almost every Rank 4 deck runs 1, I think, since it's just generically very useful and easy to make (the ease of actually playing it makes up for it's effects being the worst of all 3).

 

Here's what I'm actually thinking about Starve Venom, though: I bet it's materials aren't 2 DARK monsters. I bet it requires 2 monsters with a level of 5 or higher, since all the dragons have something to do with level 5 or higher monsters. For all we know those Predator Plants he fused COULD have really high levels; we haven't seen the cards themselves to know yet. That's my personal bet, since Yuya's deck doesn't really have THAT many DARK monsters, it's really just Odd-Eyes and a few of his Magicians, and he uses those as scales too often for that. Level 5 or higher, though? That already allows him to make it with Splash Mammoth as a material.

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Until Starve Venom appears, we can only hope it is up to our expectations. If it does require Level 5 or higher Fusion Materials, then that'll probably work (and about as close to generic as we can get for it material-wise). DRXD lost the Level 5 thing upon becoming real + is pretty much a one-time beatstick, but it's still good otherwise.

 

We can only wait and see (I would say that the next pack will show us in its entirety before the anime, but doubting that it happens).

 

As for the Obelisk Force this time, they were a disappointment outside of intimidating Reira via numbers (and their 3 vs 1 strategies). It would've been nice to show us that they are competent enough to fight on their own; as opposed to needing multiple guys to fight + combo. For a supposed "elite" group, they aren't that great from what we've seen.

 

Barrett legitimately got Yuya into a tough situation (and had he continued with his attacks before Sergey intervened), he would have won. Until Yuri gets proper screen time during duels, can't say much about his skill.

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Oh great, Zuzu and Celina got caught. Now I bet the bad guys are gonna fuse Zuzu and her counterparts with the Zuzu counterpart from the dark dimension, creating an unholy being that will consume all universes unless Yuya and his dimensional counterparts challenge her to a duel.

 

... I keep thinking this is meant to be sarcastic, but you've made more outlandish statements completely seriously so I can't tell.

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Well, We are nearing the end of the first season of Arc V and man what a trip it has been. So what would the bad guy's end game be? I mean, Zuzu and her dimensional counterparts are needed for some grand plan, so what would it be?

 

Also, it would be cliche if Zuzu said to Yuya "I hate you, and I don't ever want to see you again."

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