ENMaker Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I don't think he'd be able to do that with how jam-packed the place it with security. Sneaking in is his best bet, but Reiji's being stared down by a lot of goons, and in here, goon number does mean things at times - even Reiji or Tsuk or Reira can't blast their way out of the encirclement willy nilly. If he's not going to be fighting people why's he have that sword on his back though. I do think he's more likely to go stealth given he can seemingly move faster than anyone can see him but wouldn't bet against a bit of murder or at the very least disarming security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 If he's not going to be fighting people why's he have that sword on his back though. I do think he's more likely to go stealth given he can seemingly move faster than anyone can see him but wouldn't bet against a bit of murder or at the very least disarming security. Directly fighting would be very disadvantageous for a ninja. Even if he's strong physically, he's facing a whole squadron of trained goons and this is not really an anime that focuses on physical fighting so usual shonen tropes doesn't really apply. Assassination-style takeouts doesn't really seem to be something plausible to clear off the security, so the best bet he can do is sneak in to the place and do something while inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I have to admit, I rather like the complete turnaround of our opinions of JMR (including mine) after this episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I didn't really change mine to be honest and after this episode, not likely to. Knowing how things go in Yuya's case, he's likely to win his semifinal match, although given the mentality towards him at present, it'll likely be with a lot of booing and death threats throughout from the Commons. As for Serena vs Yugo, I can't predict anything, but depends on what kind of support both of them get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 JMR's a really big scum, but he's definitely amusing to watch. Smoothly evil folks like him when he does things like this is something really nice to see, and it makes his inevitable downfall more and more sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Would like them to have Roger succeed and actually take control of Yuya then do something similar to Joey vs Yugi where Yuya duels and manages to break free of the whatever brain implant type thing it is. Wouldn't really work though since Yuya has no real connection to Crow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaMuddy Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Would like them to have Roger succeed and actually take control of Yuya then do something similar to Joey vs Yugi where Yuya duels and manages to break free of the whatever brain implant type thing it is. Wouldn't really work though since Yuya has no real connection to Crow.What if: Yuya loses, goes underground and duels Gong all Yugi vs Joey style. Yugo beats Jack and is recruited to the Lancers.Very unlikely but I'd like to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Given Yuya's main character privileges, it's very unlikely that the above situation occurs.Then again, Crow needs to show that he is indeed a capable fighter and can handle whatever Yuya's deck has in order to win. (In other words, get a better Main Deck [although they are trying to keep him different from 5Ds]) Might be an interesting turn of events if it does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 What if, Yugo becomes the main protagonist? Yugo's atm so irrelevant from the plot aside from being the Synchro Yuu. Like hell, he's so detached from the plot and other characters aside from Yuzu right now. Would be interesting to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 About as likely as Roger being revealed to be Yuya's father all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Speaking of Yuya's dad, when I first found out that Yuya has dimensional counterparts, an interesting idea of a plot twist came to my mind: Yuya's counterparts are his half-brothers and his dad disappeared because of child support. Makes the plot more dramatic and realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 It may be interesting to find out the reason why Yuya's dad is not present in this series, bar for flashbacks.They'll have to say it eventually, but until they do, we can imagine the reasons. We shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterr259 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I was thinking along the lines of Yuya and his counterparts were originally one person, or can combine make someone/something evil due to Yuya's Pendant and the third being in his body is who owns the real/original body. If that makes sense. Yuya/to/go/ri confirmed Final Boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Alternatively, Yuzu becomes the main character and the Yuu boys become the villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Alternatively, Yuzu becomes the main character and the Yuu boys become the villain. I thought we confirmed back in Standard that she was the main Protagonist when Yuya was clueless that Yuto even existed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 IDK why people hate JMR after this episode. He's still the same character, and he's even more AA-Prosecutor than ever with the "Midnight, huh? Do it by sunset" line. [spoiler=Thoughts going forward]Unless we had spoilers that said Yuya v. Crow is happening, I expect the next round to be:Yuya v. YugoCrow v. Sergey While Yuya v. Sergey makes more sense, Sergey could easily be sent to stomp out the remainder of the commons' resistance. Whether he wins or loses is up to the whims of the writers. But why doesn't Yuya v. Crow make as much sense this round? Simple; Yugo can logically snap Yuya out of the brainwashing. Though he doesn't know it, the two of them have been in complete sync. And he DOES know that Yuya is one of his doppelgangers, like Yuto and Yuri. That Yuzu cared about him, and he's seen him try to change things. This gives Yugo a motive to try and save him, if he realizes something is up, even if it costs him the win. And this accidental slaying Alternatively, even if Yugo himself doesn't override the brainwashing, the dimensional dragons exist. They could easily possess Yuya and Yugo, much as they did in Yuto v. Yuto. This also "puts blood on [Yuya's] hands". He goes bersek and 'kills' Yugo, but he's also free from JMR's control. It's easily something to develop him with, as his other berserks never truly harmed anyone that he knew of. Sure, he scared the crowd v. Kachidoki, he potentially harmed the Obelisk Force, but never was there blood on his hands outright. This is the blow to his ideals that Yuya NEEDS. While I don't find his ideals as annoying as they're made out to be, this is a good way to have him develop, as he's going to have to come to terms with what he's done. With becoming a monster, at least in his eyes, he'll doubt if he has any right at all to be an entertainer. Which makes his development after the DC227 duel come back around to finish. Granted, we could have a double dose of brainwashed Yuya, with:Yuya v. Crow (Crow fails to knock Yuya out of it)Yugo v. Sergey (Yugo avenges Yuzu) and a finale of Yuya v. Yugo, which would lead to premiering CWSD against Jack. But it feels more right for the finale to be Yuya v. Crow or Yuya v. Sergey, especially if Yuya feels he's become soiled, and allows him to use CWSD and then its upgrade against Jack. Leaning to Yuya v. Crow. Crow has, in a sense, been given a glimpse to what Yuya was trying to get across... from the last place you'd expect it. Shun. Shun and Crow reminded one another of what they were truly fighting for, and this may show Crow what Yuya meant, although the latter presented it the wrong way. Yuya would easily be shaken up when the final starts if that's the case, and Crow would probably realize, at that point, that Yuya was truly out of sorts. To pick him up. To show him that his actions don't define who he is, nor do the circumstances prevent him from changing. He told his kids to never steal, even though they were hungry. He scolded them for their actions. But he loves them. And that's a part of his character, that big brother in him, which would work very well for getting Yuya in shape for his duel against Jack. Sure, Crow wants to get there himself, but it seems far more likely that Crow would want a true match with Yuya to get there. That's just who Crow is, and it would also be an "Olive Branch" that would calm the commons down. If they saw their hope believing in Yuya, it would give them a reason to believe in him to a degree, at least enough to not hate him. This gives us a lot of development over the span of 3 duels or so, and then Jack's duel to round everything out. Provided the tournament manages to finish before OF attacks, this is where OF would attack, pretty clearly. EDIT: Forgot the Sergey final. This also makes sense, because it teaches Yuya that he's not the monster his actions make him. He has every reason to hate Sergey, hurt Sergey, but he also has himself to remember. And that's what this final changes; It shows Yuya that, even if he loses his head, he's still himself, and he can still make his ideals shine. He just has to learn to grow and control, while accepting the world isn't friendly. Nay, it's wicked and hateful. But this is, like Crow's match, a vehicle for Yuya's growth. I'd prefer Crow slightly, given it's a duel that seems to have been planned all along, but Sergey is fine, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Oh man, I have personally not loved JMR more. His character is so well written, and his dynamic is genuinely interesting. The latest episode was just augh you devious mf. I'm still of the opinion that he was very lowly ranked in Academia, but his ego was way too big for his britches, so when he had the opportunity of making Synchro his own and having a position to match his ego; he took it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 IDK, might've something to do with him trying to roboticize Yuya or smt... sry, folks, not everyone will fall for JMR's charms :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 IDK, might've something to do with him trying to roboticize Yuya or smt... sry, folks, not everyone will fall for JMR's charms :Dthat doesn't make him a bad character ffs There's a line between being a bad CHARACTER and being a bad PERSON, and you really seem to be incapable of understanding why that is. It's not a matter of "Falling for his charms". He's a terrible human being, a greedy funker, and a monster... but he's entertaining. You want to hate him while enjoying his hammy (at times) performance, as well as his just sheer "Wow what a dick" moments. He's a well done villain now. If he was a real person, yeah, hate him. Robotocizing Yuya is no worse than doing it to THE ENTIRE SECURITY FORCE, and only shows he's a villain who has action behind his words. also, i didn't realize crow v yuya was mentioned in 83. that's dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 A bad villain wouldn't make you wish he'd die already, and you won't care at all about him. A good villain will make you curse his name and root for his downfall. Can't judge villains by the same perspective as heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterr259 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Browsing the wiki, it appears Ep. 85 will be on the 13th of December (I also spoiled myself a bit from the episode title). I'm guessing the week of the 6th is a holiday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Yeah, there's a break at the 6th. So expect cliffhangers today~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Le RAW: http://www.gogoanime.com/yu-gi-oh-arc-v-episode-84 On another note, I'll probs avoid the wiki until after I watch the episode judging by what asterr259 said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterr259 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 [spoiler=84 Thoughts]JMR Sucks................Oh? Was I supposed to say more...? But no seriously, besides JMR's cheating and Yugo's and Serena's Pre-Game moment, this Yugo-Yuya thing is interesting. I feel like it's alluding to the eventual merging of Yuya and Yugo similarly with Yuya and Yuto, but that would also mean something unfortunate will happen to Yugo. But I hope not, as someone else previously stated, Yugo feels unimportant to the plot, so I hope eventually he joins the Lancers in the search for Rin and Ruri (assuming Yuzu doesn't get captured or sent to the Fusion Dimension via Sora's old Duel Disk). I also doubt the Fusion Dimension is going to wait to the FC is over to invade, so something will probably happen before, after, or during Yuya vs. Sergei. #FreeEgaoInmato Now I cry because because of 2 week cliffhangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 [spoiler=84]Those YugoxSelena moments were entertaining. When Selena activated Polymerization (Yuugou), Yugo did his name misunderstanding running gag. I missed that.JMR, why you cheat, bruh? Poor Yugo didn't get any Action cards. At least Yugo got supported by Rin. (in his head)Next next week, Yuyago returns with a new form of Clear Wing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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