Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 [spoiler=Response]Do you know how many times how many people would have beaten Yuya if they didn't have action cards? Heck! Gongenzaka has (I'm pretty sure) lost of all his duels because of them stupid Action Cards! Gongenzaka confirmed best duelist in the show franchise. [spoiler=Reply]1. If all the fights in this dimension were standard duels [no Action Spells/Traps], then likely most, if not all of Yuya's opponents would've crushed him. However, that would also render some other characters in this series moot, such as that quiz kid that a lot of us hate the guts out of (who cares about him anyway) and Isao (from fueling his discard fodder). Then again, it would've been amusing to see how things would've turned out in the Synchro Dimension if they had retained Speed World's original mechanics + kept SPC as a thing. However, things would likely be more complicated to work with. (Yuya's Deck would be screwed hard though, because of how Pendulums work. It'll work, but no free SSing; at least not as much as he's known for doing) 2. He still has to deal with regular Spell/Traps that people play, so even with the lack of Action Cards, there still exists problems for him.However, the opponent would have to rely on their own Deck to win + remain standing there. Although Gongenzaka does have Susano'o to use the opponent's S/T cards and his other support monsters that essentially function as S/T, so he should still be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'm starting to wonder whether City's people attitude isn't meant to be taken as some sort of criticism against certain bloodthirsty viewers... ¬¬ Seriously, some people here are sounding almost like freaking Nazis, praying for Academia to commit yet another wide scale genocide ¬¬ You guys don't realize how stupid that mentality is, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 [spoiler=spoiler]I don't think anyone running the show "cornered themselves" when designing Odd-Eyes Saber because the anime staff most likely had little or nothing to do with its creation originally. I can see the Fusion Dimension invading somewhere near the end of the tournament. After all, I don't think Yuya's ideals to overthrow this system will create any social movement on its own. It'd be very cheesy if people just were "I think you are right... for a brighter tomorrow we shall work" after some speech, even if he were to win the whole thing. They definitely need something else to seed some chaos for the underground people to get out, and I doubt the lancers will just leave without taking care of all this poor vs top issue.... it is just not that kind of show so far. I don't care about Sawatari anymore... I really don't. He was cool and sometimes even funny, and I hoped for a Chazz-like character from the Yosenju duel and onwards. I have no idea what his anime-only deck even does, though he gets OTKd often anyways so it's not like it matters. His "calling dad" threats are not just spoiled, but he seems to lack common sense altogether. There are probably better ways to have someone look spoiled or pampered. Then again, I'm not all that happy about Yuya either. His ideals fall pretty flat because he is way too blind to harsh realities. Since his ideals are all he ever talks about these days, he as a whole is pretty flat lately, or maybe it was like that from the beginning and it is just more visible in a 5Ds-like setting. Or maybe its not even that, after all, Yusei was pretty idealistic too with his "minna, believe in kibou and mirai" stuff, and it did get grating at times but he somehow backed it up better.What are you even doing Yuya? Your own Synchro dimension self hasn't been able to fix this, so you are also gonna need some help (plus some more experience) if you are even thinking about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'm starting to wonder whether City's people attitude isn't meant to be taken as some sort of criticism against certain bloodthirsty viewers... ¬¬ Seriously, some people here are sounding almost like freaking Nazis, praying for Academia to commit yet another wide scale genocide ¬¬ You guys don't realize how stupid that mentality is, do you?So far, only Nai's made an explicit remark about wanting Leo to get over there + invade Synchro Dimension.There's about 1-2 regarding the dimension being beyond saving by now, given the mentality thus far. The Fusion Dimension might do something later, BUT probably not for a good while.We'll have to see though, as there exist no previews beyond the one with Sawatari and Yugo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Wolf Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 [spoiler=Sawatari, and Yu- evolution thoughts]Next episode is probably the last hope I have for Sawatari. Seeing that Shun can use Rank-ups, it shouldn't be that far-fetched that Yuto probably could but never was able to, so Yuri and Yugo probably have Double Fusion and Accel/Double Tuning as well. Which we could see in the next episode if Sawatari actually shows what his deck can do, if he manages to defeat Clear Wing, which it seems like from the title, Yugo could reborn it some how then evolve it, unless Yuya being from Standard is the only one who can evolve out of the Yu-Clones. If Yuya is the oly one who can evolve the Dimensional Dragons, then him absorbing Yugo, then later Yuri isn't far-fetched, if not then Yuri might absorb Yugo, if that is what happens with the Yu-clones if they are around when the other is defeated by a counterpart. Yugo didn't absorb Yuto because he wasn't around and Yuya was overall closer when it happened. Anyway on Sawatari, from what we have seen of his deck it can allow players to draw cards if they move a monster under a spell card (Forget which one) has a Scale 1 and 8 monster and two other. If he is truly one of the strongest duelists from LDS but is now to focused on entertaining rather than just winning, then it could explain why he has lost, factoring in we haven't seen him do anything in the other duels, either due to being OTKed somehow and Shun jumping in to defeat the Security Elites, the writers might be making us want to hate Sawatari, while keeping the fact he is actually a strong character underwraps until after his probably defeat against Yugo, where he might be filled in along with any other losing Lancers and Chojiro by Tsuikage on what Reiji wants them to do while in the labour camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King K. Azo Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 [spoiler=Reply]1. If all the fights in this dimension were standard duels [no Action Spells/Traps], then likely most, if not all of Yuya's opponents would've crushed him. However, that would also render some other characters in this series moot, such as that quiz kid that a lot of us hate the guts out of (who cares about him anyway) and Isao (from fueling his discard fodder). Then again, it would've been amusing to see how things would've turned out in the Synchro Dimension if they had retained Speed World's original mechanics + kept SPC as a thing. However, things would likely be more complicated to work with. (Yuya's Deck would be screwed hard though, because of how Pendulums work. It'll work, but no free SSing; at least not as much as he's known for doing) 2. He still has to deal with regular Spell/Traps that people play, so even with the lack of Action Cards, there still exists problems for him.However, the opponent would have to rely on their own Deck to win + remain standing there. Although Gongenzaka does have Susano'o to use the opponent's S/T cards and his other support monsters that essentially function as S/T, so he should still be fine. [spoiler=Response]1) That would be super amusing. 2) I dunno. I know people have regular spells and traps but they aren't... So Deus Ex Machina. "Oh, I can't get over that? Well, I'll just go run out and find this spell that increases attack by 1000! Oh, you'd kill me? This negates attack!" Instead of it being skill that wins, it's "Who gets this special card first?" And the reason I jokingly said Gongenzaka is the best duelist is almost everyone had to use a Deus Ex Machina to beat him. Also, that monster mash takes a lot of skill.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 [spoiler=Thoughts on 71 Subbed]- Not trying to be harsh Yuya, but regarding your little outburst, it's no wonder why people dismissed it. A: You lost to Jack and even he remarked that people will listen if it's a winner talking, and as-is you've come on fresh from a loss. B: The people from the city are used to the system; it isn't the first Friendship Cup (Even the exec council said that Yuya doesn't understand the concept of a competitive society), that's just the reality of the tournament each year. - I know he wants to defend his father's duelling, but all he's talking about these days is his ideals and it's getting quite bland.- I also noticed the little error in teh subs regarding Chaser/Predator, not that it's that big a deal tbph.- When DC227 fusion summoned, Reiji started to suspect something, saying that a rat might've found their way into the dimension. Thing is though, when he said that line, the camera was pointing at the Chairman (though I'm not sure that the Chairman has anything to do with it seeing as the note came from JMR).- Speaking of JMR, after DC227 lost, he remarked "Oh. so this is his true nature." and stated that DC227's defeat wasn't wasted. Interesting, it makes one wonder what he meant by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 [spoiler=Thoughts on 71 Subbed]- Speaking of JMR, after DC227 lost, he remarked "Oh. so this is his true nature." and stated that DC227's defeat wasn't wasted. Interesting, it makes one wonder what he meant by that. [spoiler=Response]My guess is that after the duel, Yuya's assumed to whine about how things are unfair or that he's aggressive as hell.Although he did intend to see what Yuya was capable of, even if it should've been obvious from the duel against Jack. As for Yuya, I think a lot of us agree that he's going on about his ideals quite often + especially given his record thus far in the tournament, it makes him look bad. --------(There was a reason why I referred to his "egao speeches" and crap as a lesser variant of TnJ; preaches his ideals, but lacks the power needed to do so. Although, these are two different series, so I shouldn't be comparing Yuya and Naruto) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Another thing that bothers me is that nobody here seems to get the point of Yuuya's Dueling Style: it's not so much about the acrobatics and circus tricks, but trying to make everyone happy, not only yourself and your audience, but your opponent as well. Jack and the Synchro Dimension's Dueling Style is not bad because they use more brute force, but because it's all about humilliating the opponent, putting them down, and making yourself look good while doing it - the whole purpose behind Jack's duel against Yuuya was to show how awesome Jack is and how everyone else is s*** that deserves to rot in the dump! It encompasses all that's wrong about their "competitive society", but nobody in this thread seems to understand that, and worst of all, they praise this whole s***!And what's with that "Yuuya only deserves to be listened if he wins" bullshit, Sakura? That's exactly what's wrong with this crappy city!!! People only value strength and don't care about the weak and losers - what you're proposing only serves to further that twisted mentality and ensure nothing really changes! Might does NOT make right, GDI! It's that kind of shitty thought that makes our world crumble down more and more with each passing age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Another thing that bothers me is that nobody here seems to get the point of Yuuya's Dueling Style: it's not so much about the acrobatics and circus tricks, but trying to make everyone happy, not only yourself and your audience, but your opponent as well. Jack and the Synchro Dimension's Dueling Style is not bad because they use more brute force, but because it's all about humilliating the opponent, putting them down, and making yourself look good while doing it - the whole purpose behind Jack's duel against Yuuya was to show how awesome Jack is and how everyone else is s*** that deserves to rot in the dump! It encompasses all that's wrong about their "competitive society", but nobody in this thread seems to understand that, and worst of all, they praise this whole s***!And what's with that "Yuuya only deserves to be listened if he wins" bullshit, Sakura? That's exactly what's wrong with this crappy city!!! People only value strength and don't care about the weak and losers - what you're proposing only serves to further that twisted mentality and ensure nothing really changes! Might does NOT make right, GDI! It's that kind of shitty thought that makes our world crumble down more and more with each passing age! I think Yuuya has expressed well enough, or rather "overexpressed" to the audience of the show what his intentions are.I'm not entirely sure which of Sakura's posts you are replying to, so I can't say much in that regard. However, it is not a matter of Yuuya "deserving" to be listened after winning like Jack expresses it; but Yuuya does sound like a sore loser when right after losing he decides to talk against the system first thing after entering the field. It is also not a matter of agreeing with said system, but about trying to get yourself on the audience's shoes. They've been there all their life doing the same thing at this point and have no knowledge that Yuuya is a dimensional outsider. It takes an outsider like Yuuya to claim something against the system because the residents just take it for granted rather than seeing it as something wrong. Not even Yuugo who is one of the least passive ones is trying to really override the system, but rather just join the "tops" side afterwards. For all most of them know, Yuuya is a resident from somewhere around the zone that just started talking about it at a suspiciously convenient timing for him. Yes the reaction from the crowd was unpleasant, but you can't say you are not seeing where they are coming from the least. I don't think people in this thread are really siding with the Synchro Dimension's ways at all, but merely recognizing the flawed situation as something that's reality for these characters right now, and trying to figure out what's gonna become of all this. Though as for how harsh realities go: That same system is not just part of the Synchro Dimension. If you look at Standard, what Jack did to Yuuya is the same thing Strong was aiming for back in episode 1, and Leo Corporation is a lesser form of "tops" for their respective dimension from the way their path was shaping up. Can't really escape being measured up I'm afraid, but it is obviously still going overboard at the Synchro Dimension the most. It is also not wishing that the Fusion Dimension attacks them, but I think it is plausible to predict it'll happen. They do most likely plan to go after the Synchro Dimension sooner or later, and it isn't gonna be a walk in the park for the civilians over there, but can't have all happiness in the show or else there wouldn't be a conflict to begin with. Besides, I don't really think at this moment they'd have many more ways of advancing the story. We are talking about a social issue deeply engraved into all the people over there, and a humongous amount of corruption in power. The detour to fix something like that the peaceful way to the point of changing the mindsets of the residents could be long enough for a few seasons and a life's worth of work, and even then it can never become a utopia. I think the "we have a bigger enemy to beat so lets forget our differences and work together for the mean time" cliche will be what happens after a Fusion Dimension attack, and their re-thinking happening during the time they are working like that, knowing the kind of show it is at least I mean....Either way we can't expect a full 180 here any time soon, and if it happens it could very easily end up like a cheesy idealistic deus ex machina. It is not a matter of agreeing with what's happening to the characters, but one can't always choose the ideal solution because there usually isn't one to be taken to begin with, and sometimes things can only be fixed in ways that out of league for what the heroes can do on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 He's referencing the last post I made, with regards to Yuya's little outburst at the beginning of the duel.You know, the one about what happens to people who lose in the tournament, and how he was technically out of line when he said that. Out of fairness though, I'm not the only one who made that remark. If you haven't forgotten already, Pchi, Yuya is theoretically coming in with a loss under his belt against Jack. For him to make that comment on the heel of that, it made him out to be a sore loser who is still salty from getting humiliated in front of Jack, and doesn't want to be forced to work in the underground. (Granted though, there was a similar thing back in 5Ds near the end of Yusei vs Bommer/Greiger's match, namely the relevations of what happened to the latter's home, BUT it was done after the duel concluded.) Now, would things have turned out differently had Yuya waited UNTIL he had actually won the match to say what he did?We cannot say for certain if he would've gotten the same responses that he did here. Indeed, even the Council mentioned that he's naive to how their society works, and questioned his mental capacity to go into battle and defend the Synchro Dimension from Reo's machinations. Yeah, City society is shitty right now in terms of social structure (and I acknowledge that forced labor is certainly extreme), but Yuya simply cannot expect people to take his words at face value, especially with the circumstances surrounding him. Indeed, the audience doesn't know that he's from elsewhere, and just assume he's a Commons native for whatever reason who hates the system. He might hate how things work, but unless Yuya garners enough charisma on the level of known revolutionaries from the 1940-1950s to start something, his words aren't going to start a movement to change policies. Yugo's been here his whole life, but he certainly wasn't fazed by the news; likely because he knows what the hell goes on in here.Heck, Dennis didn't really care; just shrugged it off and said "oh, so that's what happens". Only Yuzu was shocked at the revelation. At some point in time, the Academy is going to start invading Synchro, and things will start to heat up.It does not mean that they're doing it right away, but eventually Reo will come in and then measures will need to be taken. I get where Yuya is going with his duel style, but sooner or later, he will need to realize that his methods of doing things will not always work.As shown thus far, he's already failed to make Reira smile, as well as Jack and DC227. As much as we'd like things to be settled peacefully, this can't be all smiles and rainbows.At one point in your life, you'll have to accept that the world is hellish, and it's a kill-or-be killed mentality. Even reality is like this to an extent, if any of the recent world crap is anything to reference at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Personally, I think Jack's entertainment ideology is wrong.Jack's stunt about pretending to be in peril for the sake of entertainment only works when the opponent is so much weaker than him, otherwise he wouldn't be able to control the flow of a duel. It is pretty much disrespecting his opponents and asking to be stomped on if someone ever matches him up.Well, he probably would abandon this strategy if he was able to recognize an opponent as a worthy opponent and just go all out with his strategies, so I could cut him some slack depending on what happens in the future. Yuuya is also going the wrong way.He is supposed to be making people happy, and as seen in his argument with Crow, he doesn't have a broad enough idea of what happiness actually is.It even looks as if his idea of happiness is giving people a good time while he is dueling, which sounds good and is completely alright as long as there are no stakes to worry about. If people want to go have a good time, that is what his current style is for. He is though, fighting for a cause here (I think) so using the same methods for this scenario is nothing but superficial, temporary, and cheap entertainment that fades away as soon as the duel is over and doesn't leave a lasting impact. This is a situation where he needs to concentrate on being better at overcoming these things before he starts thinking about what is his favorite way to win.It is harmless, but it isn't truly making anyone happy until he can go deeper into issues at a smart way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Out of fairness though, Yuya would've won against Jack in episode 64, had he not went into Rune-Eyes Pendulum Dragon and instead opted to keep Odd-Eyes out during that turn. If he had done that, he would've been able to use his Magicians' effects to negate any Spell/Traps Jack may have played (i.e. Reject Reborn and Underworld Avoid) and certainly prevent Scarlight from appearing. However, because Yuya wanted to destroy Jack quickly, given that 3-turn declaration, he didn't think properly and decided to Fusion Summon. If he had played correctly and remembered what his cards did, that exhibition match might have been a victory.If that had occurred, things may have turned out differently and Jack's opinion on Yuya would likely be higher from what it currently is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 [spoiler=Response]My guess is that after the duel, Yuya's assumed to whine about how things are unfair or that he's aggressive as hell.Although he did intend to see what Yuya was capable of, even if it should've been obvious from the duel against Jack. As for Yuya, I think a lot of us agree that he's going on about his ideals quite often + especially given his record thus far in the tournament, it makes him look bad. --------(There was a reason why I referred to his "egao speeches" and crap as a lesser variant of TnJ; preaches his ideals, but lacks the power needed to do so. Although, these are two different series, so I shouldn't be comparing Yuya and Naruto)[spoiler=Response]My guess is that he had a good look at how Yuya duels n' junk after his defeat to Jack.It's alright to convey your ideals every so often, but when you do it at every chance you get, it gets irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 [spoiler=Response]My guess is that he had a good look at how Yuya duels n' junk after his defeat to Jack.It's alright to convey your ideals every so often, but when you do it at every chance you get, it gets irritating. [spoiler=Reply]Indeed, I wouldn't mind Yuya as much if he didn't keep mentioning his "smiles speech" every time he shows up.After a while though, I'd wish he'd shut up already. We get it, Yuya, you want to make people smile, but after a while, you sound like a broken record.If I remember correctly from the scripts, the "egao" count is somewhere in the 70s (so about 1-2 per episode). That's quite a bit. If he didn't keep saying "Dueling is meant to bring smiles on people's faces" all the time, then maybe he'd be a lot more likeable. Yuya, you realize that if/when you end up fighting the Obelisk Force, it will take you a lot more than the skill set you currently have to make them smile, let alone win.Also keep in mind that if you mess this up, you meet the same fate as that of Michio and everyone who's been sealed into cards, if not lose your life. There's a time and place for your ideals, but right now, this isn't it. [spoiler=Response]1) That would be super amusing. 2) I dunno. I know people have regular spells and traps but they aren't... So Deus Ex Machina. "Oh, I can't get over that? Well, I'll just go run out and find this spell that increases attack by 1000! Oh, you'd kill me? This negates attack!" Instead of it being skill that wins, it's "Who gets this special card first?" And the reason I jokingly said Gongenzaka is the best duelist is almost everyone had to use a Deus Ex Machina to beat him. Also, that monster mash takes a lot of skill.... [spoiler=Stuff]1. If we did have Speed World 2 mechanics, indeed things would be rather different in the Synchro Dimension.Also would require a lot more skill to play, as 5Ds has proven time and time again. One would have to manage their SPC and determine when is the best time to use Spells. That, and you'd have to worry about losing counters with the original Speed World. We can only imagine how the Standard characters would manage with these sets of rules. They can probably adapt to it, but won't be easy.We already know Yuya's usual strategies will fail; he can still summon them normally, but he'll have no way of recovering his stuff from the Extra. 2. Yeah, that's Action Duels in a nutshell so far. To an extent, suppose the real game is like that too; draw staple card and proceed to do whatever.Would be good if the anime showcased more staple cards; they showed Reborn this episode with DC227 and BTH with Tony. (Now, where are our Chains/Mind Crushes or whatever is being used in meta now?) Then again, most matches in ARC-V (and by extension, the previous series) end with the character getting a luck draw. Indeed, 40+ monster mash requires skill to be effective with; because you're relying on monster effects to keep you going.At least you'll have a monster on hand, usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 The main problem with that "Yuuya should've won before delivering his message" argument is that it probably wouldn't have worked in the first place. If their whole mentality is geared towards the "winners and losers" dynamic, even if they took their time to listen to Yuuya, they still wouldn't have cared about 227's fate - not in a genuine way, at least. What you're proposing would only serve to feed their twisted ideals. After all, it's a bit hypocritical to try to prove that strength isn't all there is by beating the crap out of everyone. And that's where my comparison between this thread's users and the people from City comes from: you guys also put power above everything else, just like them. You think Yuuya's dueling style is crappy because he doesn't go destroying everything in his sight, whereas Jack's is apparently worthy of appraisal because he does - even though he treats his opponents like s***. That's also the reason why you are so eager to forgive Yuusei for all shitty "character development" he went through after Season 2 of 5D's while Yuuya deserves scorn for actually acting more like a boy his age, being unable to properly deal with everything around him while trying to stick to the very ideals who helped him carry on all this time and not being a blatant God Mode Sue who knows everything and does every single thing right. To me, perfect, overpowered characters who have everything revolve around are just as bad, if not worse, than those with too many flaws. I'm sick of this stupid (RL) society's mentality, where being the biggest motherf***ing badass in the world is far more important than being a decent human being; where sports celebrities and action movie stars of questionable talent are paid more in a single game/movie than many teachers or doctors will ever do during their entire lives; where being loud and competitive is encouraged, while being reserved and unassuming will usually warrant you being called boring or even frigid. I'm so tired of all this s***...Sorry for the rant, I needed to vent my frustrations a little. And don't take any of that as personal - I'm not calling you monsters or anything, it's just I'm fed up with all the s*** our beloved Western civlization insists on drumming into our heads every single day of our miserable lives. And I think Arc-V might be trying to tell us something about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Jacket Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 The main problem with that "Yuuya should've won before delivering his message" argument is that it probably wouldn't have worked in the first place. If their whole mentality is geared towards the "winners and losers" dynamic, even if they took their time to listen to Yuuya, they still wouldn't have cared about 227's fate - not in a genuine way, at least. What you're proposing would only serve to feed their twisted ideals. After all, it's a bit hypocritical to try to prove that strength isn't all there is by beating the crap out of everyone. And that's where my comparison between this thread's users and the people from City comes from: you guys also put power above everything else, just like them. You think Yuuya's dueling style is crappy because he doesn't go destroying everything in his sight, whereas Jack's is apparently worthy of appraisal because he does - even though he treats his opponents like s***. That's also the reason why you are so eager to forgive Yuusei for all shitty "character development" he went through after Season 2 of 5D's while Yuuya deserves scorn for actually acting more like a boy his age, being unable to properly deal with everything around him while trying to stick to the very ideals who helped him carry on all this time and not being a blatant God Mode Sue who knows everything and does every single thing right. To me, perfect, overpowered characters who have everything revolve around are just as bad, if not worse, than those with too many flaws. I'm sick of this stupid (RL) society's mentality, where being the biggest motherf***ing badass in the world is far more important than being a decent human being; where sports celebrities and action movie stars of questionable talent are paid more in a single game/movie than many teachers or doctors will ever do during their entire lives; where being loud and competitive is encouraged, while being reserved and unassuming will usually warrant you being called boring or even frigid. I'm so tired of all this s***...Sorry for the rant, I needed to vent my frustrations a little. And don't take any of that as personal - I'm not calling you monsters or anything, it's just I'm fed up with all the s*** our beloved Western civlization insists on drumming into our heads every single day of our miserable lives. And I think Arc-V might be trying to tell us something about that.Me myself, I enjoy a good power deck. I love beating the crap out of tiny monsters. But I'm also liking Yuyas point of view. Its a card game and you should smile and enjoy it, granted this is not the time for that kind of speech. I'm not too fond on the new Scarlight though. Jack seems like a person who like Kaiba, enjoys a good battle. I really couldn't picture Jack attacking Yuya directly avoiding his monsters but hey its an AU version. I personally don't see too much of an issue here. We need power characters and we need people who enjoy it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 [spoiler=Reply]Indeed, I wouldn't mind Yuya as much if he didn't keep mentioning his "smiles speech" every time he shows up.After a while though, I'd wish he'd shut up already. We get it, Yuya, you want to make people smile, but after a while, you sound like a broken record.If I remember correctly from the scripts, the "egao" count is somewhere in the 70s (so about 1-2 per episode). That's quite a bit. If he didn't keep saying "Dueling is meant to bring smiles on people's faces" all the time, then maybe he'd be a lot more likeable. Yuya, you realise that if/when you end up fighting the Obelisk Force, it will take you a lot more than the skill set you currently have to make them smile, let alone win.Also keep in mind that if you mess this up, you meet the same fate as that of Michio and everyone who's been sealed into cards, if not lose your life. There's a time and place for your ideals, but right now, this isn't it. [spoiler=Response]Regarding the egao count, I lost count of it to the point that I don't care about the egao count.I mean Yuya's "smile speech" is starting to get as annoying as Sawatari's threatening to call his father sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I don't even know what Sawatari is supposed to be anymore. He doesn't appear for longer than a minute in any episode and in every one all he does is say "Oh no it's not me again" and stomp his feet. He's not even annoying but he's also gone beyond the point where that was relatively funny. I can't say what I want to happen to him anymore, I partly want him to lose just so he's not there for a little bit but at the same time I want him to actually not be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Well, he gets his wish for screen time on Sunday, but whether or not he survives against Yugo is anyone's guess.This is his last chance for redemption; if he doesn't get better, then a lot of us are going to treat him as simply comic relief and move on. I still think Yugo will win, but we'll see how that pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Imo, he's essentially been comic relief since the beginning of the Synchro Arc, I mean he had gotten worse as a character following his loss to Yuya in the Maiami Championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 He was a legitimate threat with Yosenjus, but after they gave him his current Deck, things went downhill.Granted, we haven't seen what it's fully capable of, but either Sawatari can't use it properly or writers only opted to show part of it (the ones that make him lose). Then again, how do you expect to P-Summon Devil Heel (I think that's the Level 8 one) in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 The same question can be asked for the Superheavy Pendulums, their levels are the same as the scales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 [spoiler=Episode 73][spoiler=Warning!! Contains Episode 72 Spoilers]http://ygorganization.com/arc5ep73/ So yeah. Sawatari loses Episode 72. Discuss in spoilers. I hate it when Konami spoils an episode in the preview for the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 To be fair it's freaking sawatari. More plot progression is def welcome though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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