Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 No Extra Deck. The primary components were 3 Dark World Structure Decks. Equaling a total of $40 worth of cards. And this deck recently got 2nd Place in a Round Robin Tourney against Atlanteans, 2 Blue-Eyes Synchro Decks, Archfiends, and Blackwings, losing an entire Match to the Blackwings. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I swear, it looks fine, minus the fact that there is no Smog here. Good, nice, cheap deck. Wait....Bronn? What does he even? He seems unneeded, could just be me. Why not Beige instead? Then again, I am remembering these guys off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Okay here's the deal: You have an EXCESSIVE amount of monsters. 3 Bronn, is a terrible idea. Relying on inflicting damage to be able to do your plays in Main Phase 2 is subpar at best. You're prone to draw monster-heavy hands and that sucks balls in Dark World, especially when those monsters can't be normal summoned. It lacks Dragged Down into the Grave which is arguably the best card in the Deck after Grapha- but it's kind of expensive so you're okay in that regard. Too many monsters. I cannot stress that enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 -3 Bronn -1 Jar +3 Dragged Down +1 Mirror Force Just as a start of things that need adjusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I miss the days where 20+ monsters weren't considered to be too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I miss the days where 20+ monsters weren't considered to be too much. I think you should look into Monster Mash then. This is Dark Worlds and those like their Spells more than their monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I miss the days where 20+ monsters weren't considered to be too much. Except in DWs, you need as many things to turbo your win conAs easily as possible, and Monsters don't do that. Spells, and sometimes traps, do. Oh, and BTW: -1 Bribe -2 Goldd -1 Lightning +1 Silvva +3 Upstart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Except in DWs, you need as many things to turbo your win conAs easily as possible, and Monsters don't do that. Spells, and sometimes traps, do. Oh, and BTW: -1 Bribe -2 Goldd -1 Lightning +1 Silvva +3 Upstart No don't touch his Goldds, they're so good when he gets Celuri too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 No don't touch his Goldds, they're so good when he gets Celuri too. Reading this while looking at your sig had me laughing so dang hard. And I would 3 Reckless before 3 Upstarts. Oh wait.....DO ALL SIX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 No don't touch his Goldds, they're so good when he gets Celuri too. I Thought Silvva was better? Hitting the hand seems a lot more good when you have grapha to kill everything and stuff. Or you're being sarcastic. Also, -3 Celery +1 Beige +2 TGU/Mind Crush/1 One Day of Peace + 1 IDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 +2 TGU/Mind Crush/1 One Day of Peace + 1 IDK It would be 3 TGU IMO. Man, suddenly DW are looking fun. What is wrong with me? Draw Power, Raw Power, and....wait, no, its Grapha.dek. TGU is also not super cheap. Last I checked, and its been a while, 3 would cost at least half of what GLaDOS has already spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 OK. Where do I get all of these cards? And how much is it going to cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 OK. Where do I get all of these cards? And how much is it going to cost? eBay. I'd say at this rate $30 at the most. Adding some extra funds just cuz. Overestimation is better than under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Locals? Internet? A few of them (Like Beige) came in the SD, and all the others should be max $3 a pop. Total, I'd say like...20, 25? Not too bad, in all honesty, considering it's this game. Scratch adding another silvva, esp. if you have no Rank 5s. Prolly add another beige or soemthing instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 eBay. I'd say at this rate $30 at the most. Adding some extra funds just cuz. Overestimation is better than under. But all this will do is make my deck like every other Dark World Deck out there. Okay here's the deal: You have an EXCESSIVE amount of monsters. 3 Bronn, is a terrible idea. Relying on inflicting damage to be able to do your plays in Main Phase 2 is subpar at best. You're prone to draw monster-heavy hands and that sucks balls in Dark World, especially when those monsters can't be normal summoned. It lacks Dragged Down into the Grave which is arguably the best card in the Deck after Grapha- but it's kind of expensive so you're okay in that regard. Too many monsters. I cannot stress that enough. So? Brron deals damage, and that gets the party going. Or I get a Dark World Dealings, and that gets the party going. Or I use a Dark World Lightning, and that gets the party going. Or I activate Gates of Dark World, and that gets the party going. How is a good amount of monsters in a deck revolving around DISCARDING MONSTERS a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 But all this will do is make my deck like every other Dark World Deck out there. So you don't want to be optimal? So? Brron deals damage, and that gets the party going. So does using Dealings/Gates/Dragged/Etc to discard grapha and summoning him. Or I get a Dark World Dealings, and that gets the party going. Or I use a Dark World Lightning, and that gets the party going. Oh wait you said it for me. How is a good amount of monsters in a deck revolving around DISCARDING MONSTERS a bad thing? Because the ones you want to discard are grapha, snoww, and broww to dig through your deck for more graphas and things to discard them with. Also summoning grapha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 But all this will do is make my deck like every other Dark World Deck out there. Sorry, but yeah. You can steer clear of TGU if you want, but that makes the other 3 kinda useless. Then again, you don't have Xyz anyway. So? Brron deals damage, and that gets the party going. Or I get a Dark World Dealings, and that gets the party going. Or I use a Dark World Lightning, and that gets the party going. How is a good amount of monsters in a deck revolving around DISCARDING MONSTERS a bad thing? And Darkworld Shackles gets the deck going too. No, seriously, Bronn is just bad. Waiting to make a key play during the BP or possibly the MP2 is just bad. One thing goes wrong and you are screwed. Bronn is just bad. I would run freaking Scout before I ran that. EDIT: Airride, "optimal" often these days just means "going through the route." I feel that if someone wants to make a build upon actually using Dark World cards and not Grapha/TGU.dek, they should be free to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 But all this will do is make my deck like every other Dark World Deck out there. So? Brron deals damage, and that gets the party going. Or I get a Dark World Dealings, and that gets the party going. Or I use a Dark World Lightning, and that gets the party going. Or I activate Gates of Dark World, and that gets the party going. How is a good amount of monsters in a deck revolving around DISCARDING MONSTERS a bad thing? You open 4 monsters. Proceed to scoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 You open 4 monsters. Proceed to scoop. One of which is probably a Brron. Which can get the party going. So you don't want to be optimal? Because the ones you want to discard are grapha, snoww, and broww to dig through your deck for more graphas and things to discard them with. Also summoning grapha. Why do I get the feeling "optimal" means "every single other DW Deck out there"? So what do I do if I don't have any monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 >Because TCG Holds A Deck's Value Based On Its Price TagThat isn't exactly true, you know.I miss the days where 20+ monsters weren't considered to be too much. Some decks prefer more, some prefer less.DWs are the later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 One of which is probably a Brron. Which can get the party going. So can dealings/gate/dragged/lightning i guess and they don't require a battle phase, a monster with >1800? ATK on the opponent's field, and also you don't get as many things to dig through the deck if you open a lot of monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Why do I get the feeling "optimal" is the same as "every single other DW Deck out there"? It is. So what do I do if I don't have any monsters? Draw Power into monsters. Reckless, Upstart, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Some decks prefer more, some prefer less. DWs are the later. But it's a deck about DISCARDING MONSTERS. It seems counterproductive to not have that many monsters to discard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Why do I get the feeling "optimal" means "every single other DW Deck out there"? So what do I do if I don't have any monsters? Because "every single DW deck out there" is optimal and streamlined to win as much as possible, and be consistent. Then you use Upstart, Dealing to dig through your deck. It helps if you have reckless as well. But it's a deck about DISCARDING MONSTERS. It seems counterproductive to not have that many monsters to discard. It's moreso "Grapha.dek" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Ideal808 has Tour Guide for 6$I mean, if you want to be obscure and use that to get Browws, to which, you can then use for Grapha.But it's a deck about DISCARDING MONSTERS.It seems counterproductive to not have that many monsters to discard.No, your thinking of Fableds, and even then, it's not exactly a concrete statement.See, the thing about DWs, is the fact you want them to do something outside of self-summoning themselves, since then they basically make as much sense as Cyber Dragon, except on a more prominent -1 factor.It's why Grapha can destroy stuff, and also recycle stuff/revive itself.It's why Snoww is your Stratos.etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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