Lunar Origins Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Seeing as how the United States is finally legalizing gay marriage in most places (I think 18 states have legalized it now), what are your opinions? I for one, being transgender, heavily approve and wish to see the trend of acceptance continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocodomoco Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 I think its awesome. Im in New York. My cousin recently got married to her girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Most<50 18<50 18<most wait, what I don't feel like getting into huge, stupid, whiny details about this, so I'll keep it brief. I do not approve of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted January 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Most<50 18<50 18<most wait, what It wasn't nearly as accepted, say, two years ago, so the progress is considerable and the trend seems like it will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocodomoco Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 The debate wouldn't be whiny or long. At this point its just ignorance to be against it. End of debate. Also once you start getting a law passed in the high teens amount of states that's when a national law can be passed. Lets not forget only 11 states gave women full voting rights before the 19th amendment. So you really don't need a majority of states to agree for a national law to be passed. Just a concrete group of them. Its something refereed to as Innovation Federalism. Where one state tries something, In this case equal marriage laws. It works so other states with similar ideals try it as well. If you get enough states that are alike to agree upon it , It has a very good chance as beign passed as a national law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 The debate wouldn't be whiny or long. At this point its just ignorance to be against it. End of debate. SOoooooooo wrong. Its not ignorance. Why should people who are not married by the definition of marriage get marriage benefits? The concept is stupid. Nothing against Gays and Lesbians and the whole lot, with the exception of Justin Bieber, but they should not get benefits and government rights that people who are actually following the definition of marriage get. Also once you start getting a law passed in the high teens amount of states that's when a national law can be passed. Lets not forget only 11 states gave women full voting rights before the 19th amendment. So you really don't need a majority of states to agree for a national law to be passed. Just a concrete group of them. Its something refereed to as Innovation Federalism. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted January 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 SOoooooooo wrong. Its not ignorance. Why should people who are not married by the definition of marriage get marriage benefits? The concept is stupid. Nothing against Gays and Lesbians and the whole lot, with the exception of Justin Bieber, but they should not get benefits and government rights that people who are actually following the definition of marriage get. Good point. Definitions can be changed, for nothing in this world is concrete. History favors progressiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 I personally feel like the government shouldn't recognize marriages at all All the money saved would go towards people raising children, since that is the reason we recognize marriage in the first place, to establish some sort of family unit Seeing as family units now widely exist without marriage occurring, we should simply give tax-breaks/other perks to people raising children. This way all communities that wish to be together can in their own way whilst religious people get to keep the "sanctity of marriage" as it is now back to what it was before, a religious/personal ceremony and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Locked as requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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