Slinky Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 This card cannot be Special Summoned except by the effect of "Rank-Up Magic Astral Force". Once per turn: you can target up to 2 monsters on your field or graveyard; Attach them to this card as Xyz materials. If this card has a "Dyson Sphere" monster as an Xyz material, it gains these effects: - Once per turn: You may inflict 500 damage to your opponent for every Xyz Material attached to this card. - If this card battles a monster: before damage calculation, you may attach it to this card as an Xyz material and inflict damage to your opponent equal to half that monsters ATK. - If a card effect targets this card, you may detach 3 Xyz materials from this card, and if you do, negate that effect and attach that card to this card as an Xyz material. The point of this card: It is intended to be a deck goal. Being that it is ridiculously hard to summon without completely basing your deck around (3 level 10s + rank-up Magic, or 2 level 9s and 2 rank-up magics). The card adopts the effects of both "No. 9" and "CNo. 9" and upgrades those effects, as well as adding in its own style. I used the Dashes because for some reason, the card maker doesn't recognize those solid black dots when generating the image. I was also going to add an "On Destruction" effect to revive a "Dyson Sphere" in your graveyard, but figured that would have been too much, plus it made the text size on the card too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I actually like the concept behind the card, despite how hard it is to use. I would change the last effect to accommodate for the difficulty of the summon and make it like this. "If this card would be affected by a card effect" instead of targeting. Protects far more. Might go to be too strong, but having to get Dyson and 2 RUMs to go off isn't as easy as it looks. Maybe too much, IDK. Love the art and effect though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 First of all, "No.", as well as "CNo." are OCG's text and since this is a TCG site, u need to use "Number" or "Number C" and well, in this weird case, it should be "Number A9" or sth like this, and well the card's effect is too much broken even any condition, to consider the summoning is very easy, all u need is just DNA Transplant + Gustav who can easy summoned by a single card like Exodios or Trag, then u get this, use it's eff, grab Dyson Sphere from Grave (many ways, can be easily summoned since Deep Space Cruiser or Floaticastle is a card or can be simply milled by that 3000 worm) also your OCG need fixed a little bit and and ok, give me a sec, my phone is really annoyed me now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Accidentally double post, ignore this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I actually like the concept behind the card, despite how hard it is to use. I would change the last effect to accommodate for the difficulty of the summon and make it like this. "If this card would be affected by a card effect" instead of targeting. Protects far more. Might go to be too strong, but having to get Dyson and 2 RUMs to go off isn't as easy as it looks. Maybe too much, IDK. Love the art and effect though. Thing is, that was the ORIGINAL effect. I toned it down. Other effects it had: It gained ATK equal to the combined rank of "Dyson" monsters in your graveyard. Removed because it was pointless. It also used to be able to target only "Dyson" monsters. Changed it, because of the lack of "Dyson" monsters in general. Which I intend to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I don't think its THAT broken. And still, a lot of cards are mentioned. A lot have to be used, setup is needed, etc. I can use the whole "too easy to get" to make non broken cards sound OP. Don't use that logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 First of all, "No.", as well as "CNo." are OCG's text and since this is a TCG site, u need to use "Number" or "Number C" and well, in this weird case, it should be "Number A9" or sth like this, and well the card's effect is too much broken even any condition, to consider the summoning is very easy, all u need is just DNA Transplant + Gustav who can easy summoned by a single card like Exodios or Trag, then u get this, use it's eff, grab Dyson Sphere from Grave (many ways, can be easily summoned since Deep Space Cruiser or Floaticastle is a card or can be simply milled by that 3000 worm) also your OCG need fixed a little bit and and ok, give me a sec, my phone is really annoyed me now The card grammar is fine, except maybe misplaced colons and stuff. As for your reasoning on summoned Dyson Sphere. I'm calling bs. Rank 9 is /the/ hardest rank to effectively summon. You'd literally need to run junk cards that slow the deck down, as well as encourage dead draws. That said, how consistent do you think that would even /be/? Ever since it premiered in the anime, I've been searching for Easy (AND CONSISTENT) ways to summon the card. Aside from Mecha Phantom Beasts, I have found none. And Mechas are relatively slow and vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 The card grammar is fine, except maybe misplaced colons and stuff. As for your reasoning on summoned Dyson Sphere. I'm calling bs. Rank 9 is /the/ hardest rank to effectively summon. You'd literally need to run junk cards that slow the deck down, as well as encourage dead draws. That said, how consistent do you think that would even /be/? Ever since it premiered in the anime, I've been searching for Easy (AND CONSISTENT) ways to summon the card. Aside from Mecha Phantom Beasts, I have found none. And Mechas are relatively slow and vulnerable. Cruiser 9 into Inferno Reckless isn't too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 alright, but at least it's OP, to attach any monster from your Graveyard, mean u can trigger many effects and as I said, u can just drop 9 to Grave early, then use this card's effect to grab it later, so this card didn't need to Rank-Up from 9 or c9 to maximize its potential, and if it does, it's become a Wicked-burner which can just keep attacking, attach burn, burn, attach burn, burn. p.s. u can make bullet point appeared on your card by many ways, the easiest way I'm using is Paint :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Cruiser 9 into Inferno Reckless isn't too hard. Thats the easiest way. Doesn't make it consistent. Reckless is unsearchable. Lets look at this for a second. Conditions: Opponent needs a face-up monster. Your hand contains 1 random machine, 1 Deep space Cruiser, and 1 Reckless Summon. (getting this hand isnt as easy as it seems, its roughly less than a 10% chance of obtaining everything you need in your opening hand. And that is just summoning #9, never mind the rank-up magics. In addition, Reckless is a dead draw. There's a reason people don't use this card.Cruiser 9 into Inferno Reckless isn't too hard. Thats the easiest way. Doesn't make it consistent. Reckless is unsearchable. Lets look at this for a second. Conditions: Opponent needs a face-up monster. Your hand contains 1 random machine, 1 Deep space Cruiser, and 1 Reckless Summon. (getting this hand isnt as easy as it seems, its roughly less than a 10% chance of obtaining everything you need in your opening hand. And that is just summoning #9, never mind the rank-up magics. In addition, Reckless is a dead draw. There's a reason people don't use this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 The burn when attach seems like a little much, but it fits the theme rather well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 alright, but at least it's OP, to attach any monster from your Graveyard, mean u can trigger many effects and as I said, u can just drop 9 to Grave early, then use this card's effect to grab it later, so this card didn't need to Rank-Up from 9 or c9 to maximize its potential, and if it does, it's become a Wicked-burner which can just keep attacking, attach burn, burn, attach burn, burn. p.s. u can make bullet point appeared on your card by many ways, the easiest way I'm using is Paint :) The Original #9 also attaches ANY MONSTER. So that point is null. As for the latter, good job describing C9 yo. Thats pretty much what Chaos Dyson Sphere does in a nutshell. -attack, attach- inflit 300 for each material- detach everything but Dyson Sphere- inflict 800 for each. Rinse repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 The thing I know is Dyson are not that hard to summon, Photon deck that focus around rank 8 can summon this by just tech 1-2 Satellite, and even not count that, when lv9 2 synchro material like Castle who can summon another Lv.9 monster on summon is released, it will be the most simple and easy way to summon any Rank 9 monsters including the really hard one like 92 And well about its attach eff, No.9 require your opponent to ATK it first, but this one can just activate that in your turn, which Veiler, chain or other stuff cannot interrupted due to it detach eff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 The thing I know is Dyson are not that hard to summon, Photon deck that focus around rank 8 can summon this by just tech 1-2 Satellite, and even not count that, when lv9 2 synchro material like Castle who can summon another Lv.9 monster on summon is released, it will be the most simple and easy way to summon any Rank 9 monsters including the really hard one like 92 Satellite is a vaild point here. But RUM? In Photons? Sounds like a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 The thing I know is Dyson are not that hard to summon, Photon deck that focus around rank 8 can summon this by just tech 1-2 Satellite, and even not count that, when lv9 2 synchro material like Castle who can summon another Lv.9 monster on summon is released, it will be the most simple and easy way to summon any Rank 9 monsters including the really hard one like 92 Floaticastle is also the first card to actually /support/ level 9. (Being level 9 doesnt make it level 9 support, that'd be like saying Stardust is level 8 support). In addition, summong either Giganti or Floati requires 2 MORE monsters. So your arguements are serving the opposite effect. Satellite is a vaild point here. But RUM? In Photons? Sounds like a pain. Satellite is a valid point yes. Adore it so much. I would actually run a rank-up magic in it. Because C9 is too good not to. But that said, even with all this support Photon has, they STILL suck. Its hilarious really. Leave it to Konami to actually make over the top support for the archetype and the decks speed actually /decreases/. EDIT: C107 as well, because why not? #46, Neo-Photon, or #62 into C107 is so hilarious yo. Why did they even buff C107 to begin with? It was already ridiculously retarded. lolkonami: Lets just make that negation effect that C92 should have had to begin with, give it to C107, and have it be its own GENERIC EFFECT! What can go wrong? :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Well the eff of C9 are only anime effects, which I'm no surprise at all if it have something like that, but your monster is extended that anime effect, but I should leave it at this, since from my phone I can't keep following the update while making long post right this XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Well the eff of C9 are only anime effects, which I'm no surprise at all if it have something like that, but your monster is extended that anime effect, but I should leave it at this, since from my phone I can't keep following the update while making long post right this XD You also realize C9s IRL effect is known right? Its in Premium Pack 16. in the anime, C9 attached the monster AFTER damage calculation. IRL does it before. Anime inflicts 500 damage for each material, and restricts your opponents monsters attacks to C9 only. Irl dropped the attack restriction and reduced it to 300. Anime effect detached EVERYTHING for 800 each. Irl detaches any amount you choose for 800 each. C9 in the anime was DARK, irl its LIGHT. Being uninformed is not helping your case. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted December 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 bump yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qliphort Tool Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 nice card, but I prefer the original c9 more than this :) also a little OCG problem, you should use "can" instead of "may" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiosaiIke Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Nice card, interesting concept. Would this be a chaos form? Or would this be some sort of super-chaos or shining or Astral-Chaos? Either way, this card seems pretty good, is protected from most things. Could be easily taken down using two card effects, but that's where the dysons are usually designed to fail. Hard to get out, good reward. If your still interested in Dysons, you might be interested in [url=http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/310775-dyson-bubble-powered-down-version-of-number-9-dyson-sphere/]This card, which is a weaker form of Number 9.[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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