Guize, Are We Still Doing This?

[bury the year]

To distinguish the two types of magic, we could take the Nasuverse approach. Regular magic (aka "thaumatergy") just manipulates the chance of something happen, whereas true magic ("witchcraft") is able to manifest that which is actually truly impossible. Thoughts?

 

And I still don't entirely get the setting.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

To distinguish the two types of magic, we could take the Nasuverse approach. Regular magic (aka "thaumatergy") just manipulates the chance of something happen, whereas true magic ("witchcraft") is able to manifest that which is actually truly impossible. Thoughts?

 

And I still don't entirely get the setting.

Sounds like a good idea.

And Science Fantasy is actually about as old as Science Fiction.

Some of the great classic Sci-Fi stories, like the Princess of Mars series, are, in fact, Science Fantasy.

[Enrise]

I didn't get a chance to read the thread, so I doubt my post will have immediate relevance, but I want to throw this out there:

 

A war-centric RP naturally has at least 2 factions (however, because of possible lack of participants, it should only be kept to 3 factions at maximum). That said, we can have a thread for each faction, and we can have different sides of the story (one faction can be a rebellion fighting tyranny while the other faction be the kingdom that established peace through power).

 

I'm not entirely sure how the actual fighting would be brought about, since I haven't thought that far ahead, but I felt that this idea would be Forum-wide RP worthy.

 

*Credits to Mugino Junko as the inspiration to the idea.

[Aix]

Let me gather everything we have so far.

 

Basically, we are going with a Fantasy setting with advanced technology like digital screens, computers and such. This setting just happens to be a few sectors of a Dyson Sphere (as the Dyson Sphere is so big, it is split into billions of sectors).

 

Suggested by Admiral Stalfos:

What if we have one sector of the Dyson Sphere (which I'll call Sector A for this example) run by a totalitarian government/kingdom/whatever, who starts plotting to take over the entire thing? We can have this Sector A take many different approaches in this plot, from sending the monsters to attack the other sectors of the Dyson Sphere only to "rise to the occasion" and send their troops to destroy them, to going deep into the Dyson Sphere's core and changing a few things round so that they always win elections. This in turn will raise suspicion from the other sectors, but when, say, Sector B, tries to investigate into the matter a bit more critically, Sector A turns to label Sector B as a traitorous government/kingdom/whatever instead, and, seeing that, Sectors C-F stay well out of it in hopes of avoiding the same thing.

 

 

I didn't get a chance to read the thread, so I doubt my post will have immediate relevance, but I want to throw this out there:

 

A war-centric RP naturally has at least 2 factions (however, because of possible lack of participants, it should only be kept to 3 factions at maximum). That said, we can have a thread for each faction, and we can have different sides of the story (one faction can be a rebellion fighting tyranny while the other faction be the kingdom that established peace through power).

 

I'm not entirely sure how the actual fighting would be brought about, since I haven't thought that far ahead, but I felt that this idea would be Forum-wide RP worthy.

 

*Credits to Mugino Junko as the inspiration to the idea.

This isn't merely a big RP, this is a forum-wide where you can create your own threads, meaning that if someone wishes to create an adventure revolving either side, they can go ahead. Perhaps one thread is about an intelligence group from Sector A off on a sabotage mission and also to steal technology and another is also a group from Sector A, but they set off to straight to the warfront or something.

 

 

Perhaps one of the sections of the Dyson's Sphere could be like Incarceron (Thank's Aix :) )

iirc, there were stuff like metal forests and such? The AI controller could fit in as well, maybe there's certain secrets hidden in said sector and the AI is the guardian. A group could go in and try to find ancient artifacts or something.

 

Now we also suggested that we can have RWBY-esque weapons and we are discussing how magic should work, whether it should be pseudo-magic caused by nanites or a legitimate supernatural force. I actually don't mind the nanites, if the cast does not actually know how it works and can only do limited stuff with it, also if it takes great training and control to use.

 

I'm also wondering right now if we should have mechs and/or fighter jets.

[Maeriberii Haan]

I'd say no to planes and mechs, especially in the beginning of the RP. With the apparent medieval stasis, both are really out of place here. Except maybe after something important in the middle of the RP happened, then they maybe can be justified.

[encapturer]

So those going against the status quo are persecuted and/or discriminated against?
I can get behind that.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

iirc, there were stuff like metal forests and such? The AI controller could fit in as well, maybe there's certain secrets hidden in said sector and the AI is the guardian. A group could go in and try to find ancient artifacts or something.

 

That's correct though that was due to the fact that Incarceron was running out of organic material. If I'm remembering correctly of course. And that sounds like a good idea.

 

Admittingly, I don't much like the idea of the mechs or planes.

[The Warden]

Would my previous idea back int he club about the Magitech Mutants still fit in? With it being more fantasy the idea could have the rogue or maybe bersrk nanites doing grotesque and possible pointless changes on people. And that the people think it was a curse for those who go against the status quo?

[Aix]

Would my previous idea back int he club about the Magitech Mutants still fit in? With it being more fantasy the idea could have the rogue or maybe bersrk nanites doing grotesque and possible pointless changes on people. And that the people think it was a curse for those who go against the status quo?

Sounds like an idea we can employ later, or someone can bring it into the RP, we really just needed something going on in the world. I don't recall exactly what you said, could you link me or just copy and paste it here?

[Catterjune]

My random thoughts:


FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND:

This RP seems to keep mentioning a Dyson Sphere as the central plot point a lot. According to wiki, a Dyson Sphere is:

"a hypothetical megastructure [...] meant to completely encompass a star and capture most or all of its energy output"

I assume all our characters live on this large sphere that circles the sun. Assuming this is all correct...

HERE'S MY IDEA!:

The Dyson Sphere was a perfectly round super structure surrounding the sun. It was beginning to be too costly to transport the energy output of the Sun and sending it down to Earth. Also the Earth was getting too crowded. So whoever was in charge decided to terraform the Dyson sphere, gave it an atmosphere, running water, and all the other crap the world needs. Then they sent people to live up there. If magic is involved, they used magic.

So everything was fine and the Dyson Sphere was a perfect Utopia. They abandoned Earth and went on to live on the Dyson Sphere. And then, tragedy struck!

Maybe it was a solar flare, maybe it was a dumb scientist's mistake, maybe a comet or an asteroid, but whatever it was, it destroyed the Dyson Sphere.

The sphere exploded into a million pieces. Most of the pieces drifted into the sun, killing billions. Others floated away into the huge vaccum of space never to be seen or heard from again. The (very few) fragments that remained somehow were able to keep their atmopshere because plot. They floated aimlessly around the sun, like Saturn's rings.

Maybe it was the terraforming, maybe it was magic, maybe it was tech, maybe it was just good luck, but some of the humans did survive. Their way of live was irrepairably changed however. The place they stood was now nothing more than a hunk of floating metal, possibly with food or food sources or water or solar power collector. These hundreds, perhaps thousands of floating balls of metal continued their orbits, possibly with people living on them. They mostly turned back to hunter-gatherers.

Depending on the size of the metal rocks they lived on, some eventually did grow to be like... medieval times.

And this was just the way it was for centuries. People lived on small little floating metal things with food and water all their lives for countless generations.

However, the largest section of the Dyson Sphere, decided to try to "fix" it. The largest section that had survived also managed to collect quite a lot of tech from the "Before Times". They had quite a few modern-day marvels, and possibly some sort of futuristic stuff as well. So while most of the floating scraps were living in harsh conditions, arid desert-like locations, the largest section of the Dyson Sphere was thriving.

So whoever was in charge of the largest surviving section decided it was time to unite the Sphere fragments into one large kingdom. He assumes it to be a humanitarian mission. "Look at these savages, breeding animals for food and sustenance instead of using their Solar Collectors to power their Nutrient Stations. It's time to bring them into the 81st century!"

The people on the Sphere fragments don't see it that way. They see it as a mad king's lust for power.


And... that's where our story begins. The guy in charge of the largest Dyson Sphere Fragment sends out space ships to make contact with all the floating Sphere Fragments.

For the most part, most of the people on the other Fragments do not know about other "worlds" out there beyond the 5-10 mile little fragment they live on.\


And... that's my idea. >_>

[Aix]

Pika's idea.

Seems interesting. So, everyone, should we do this one or Admiral Stalfos's idea? I suppose they are quite similar, in both being conquest stories.

 

I actually don't care much for it, I'd rather have an intact Dyson Sphere.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

The fragment idea sounds pretty cool, TBH.

That way, we can still have an epic scale without the entire sphere being involved.
Plus, the other fragments could come into play in a future RP.

I imagine the Sphere would have safeguards in place to close off sections of the interior in case of an event like this, meaning that giant walls hundreds of miles high and dozens of miles thick (to contain the air) would be present.

[Catterjune]

It wouldn't be impossible to merge and borrow aspects from each of them.

The largest fragment of the Dyson Sphere (Dyson Prime!?) is subdivided into three sections, A, B, and C. A is the "capital city" area, where politics go down. B is the "science and technology" section, along with military and such. C is the residential and commercial area.

The Dyson Fragments our characters would live on are probably relatively large. Like an extremely large city + a little extra, most of the liveable ones. And Dyson Prime would probably be the size of a mid-large sized country. Of course, these are all absolutely microscopic in comparison to the sun.

I actually don't care much for it, I'd rather have an intact Dyson Sphere.

I can understand that.

On the plus side, a fragmented Dyson Sphere would allow for a much richer variety, and for people to roleplay at their own pace, and even with their own styles.

On the downside, a fragmented Dyson Sphere would take lots and lots of work to really get "right". If the king is sending out like... even something small like 5 generals to 5 Dyson Fragments, that's 5 "villains" and maybe 1 or 2 "citizens" per fragment, we're looking at around 15-20 active RP-ers, minimum and I don't think it'd be easy to get that done and then there's a mess of other logistics, what if one of the "villains" goes AFK for forever, etc etc. Too complicated. One guy with absolute power versus one rag-tag team of a constantly rotating cast is much easier to manage.


But that's my thoughts on it. Did you have any other particular reason against Dyson Fragments over an intact Dyson Sphere? e_e

I imagine the Sphere would have safeguards in place to close off sections of the interior in case of an event like this, meaning that giant walls hundreds of miles high and dozens of miles thick (to contain the air) would be present.

Sure why not? *shrug*

My explanation was just gonna be "lol magic", but yours can work too I guess. o_0

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

It wouldn't be impossible to merge and borrow aspects from each of them.

The largest fragment of the Dyson Sphere (Dyson Prime!?) is subdivided into three sections, A, B, and C. A is the "capital city" area, where politics go down. B is the "science and technology" section, along with military and such. C is the residential and commercial area.

The Dyson Fragments our characters would live on are probably relatively large. Like an extremely large city + a little extra, most of the liveable ones. And Dyson Prime would probably be the size of a mid-large sized country. Of course, these are all absolutely microscopic in comparison to the sun.


I can understand that.

On the plus side, a fragmented Dyson Sphere would allow for a much richer variety, and for people to roleplay at their own pace, and even with their own styles.

On the downside, a fragmented Dyson Sphere would take lots and lots of work to really get "right". If the king is sending out like... even something small like 5 generals to 5 Dyson Fragments, that's 5 "villains" and maybe 1 or 2 "citizens" per fragment, we're looking at around 15-20 active RP-ers, minimum and I don't think it'd be easy to get that done and then there's a mess of other logistics, what if one of the "villains" goes AFK for forever, etc etc. Too complicated. One guy with absolute power versus one rag-tag team of a constantly rotating cast is much easier to manage.


But that's my thoughts on it. Did you have any other particular reason against Dyson Fragments over an intact Dyson Sphere? e_e


Sure why not? *shrug*

My explanation was just gonna be "lol magic", but yours can work too I guess. o_0

Oh...
I was thinking these fragments would still be rather tiny according to the scale of the Dyson Sphere, but "tiny" on a Dyson Sphere would still give us MANY times the surface area of Earth to play around in.

[Catterjune]

Oh...
I was thinking these fragments would still be rather tiny according to the scale of the Dyson Sphere, but "tiny" on a Dyson Sphere would still give us MANY times the surface area of Earth to play around in.

I think that, considering there would be thousands of fragments floating around, it would be possible to see something like a lone little house on the prairie, in a snow globe, or a world that was like a tropical island, or any other random fragment idea.

But then if everyone wants their own individualized fragment it starts to be a problem because like... 10 RPers, and 10 people who have the be the king's army and... just gets complicated. It's easier to have a bunch of RP-ers all clumped together then it is to have them all separate, be contacted separately, etc etc. Not impossible, just more difficult.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

I think that, considering there would be thousands of fragments floating around, it would be possible to see something like a lone little house on the prairie, in a snow globe, or a world that was like a tropical island, or any other random fragment idea.

But then if everyone wants their own individualized fragment it starts to be a problem because like... 10 RPers, and 10 people who have the be the king's army and... just gets complicated. It's easier to have a bunch of RP-ers all clumped together then it is to have them all separate, be contacted separately, etc etc. Not impossible, just more difficult.

Well, what I was thinking was that this would all take place one 1 single fragment...with half the surface area of Jupiter.

[Catterjune]

Well if it's a forum wide RP, there's not much sense in making it isolated in one location. Then again "half the surface area of Jupiter" is pretty frogging huge.

I think having dozens of scattered fragments of a Dyson Sphere, and one kinda "central hub" that's trying to take over the other fragments is probably a good way to go. People who want to be involved in the "central" plot can make their characters from Dyson Prime. And people who wanna do smaller, slice-of-life style RP (until the Fire Nation attacked!) can do that on smaller fragments.

IN MY OPINION!

As for magic and stuff... IDK if and how that would go in. Magic complicates things because there's gotta be an internal logic about it and rules and such. But magic also also makes stuff easier in some regards. "How did you survive!?" "Magic!"

[Aix]

Well if it's a forum wide RP, there's not much sense in making it isolated in one location. Then again "half the surface area of Jupiter" is pretty frogging huge.

I think having dozens of scattered fragments of a Dyson Sphere, and one kinda "central hub" that's trying to take over the other fragments is probably a good way to go. People who want to be involved in the "central" plot can make their characters from Dyson Prime. And people who wanna do smaller, slice-of-life style RP (until the Fire Nation attacked!) can do that on smaller fragments.

IN MY OPINION!

As for magic and stuff... IDK if and how that would go in. Magic complicates things because there's gotta be an internal logic about it and rules and such. But magic also also makes stuff easier in some regards. "How did you survive!?" "Magic!"

The point is that it's all isolated in one location so that interaction is possible.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

The point is that it's all isolated in one location so that interaction is possible.

So it all will be on one fragment?

[Aix]

So it all will be on one fragment?

Unless you have a good reason to do otherwise.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

Unless you have a good reason to do otherwise.

Half the surface area of Jupiter sound big enough?
That's 60 Earths.

[Aix]

Half the surface area of Jupiter sound big enough?
That's 60 Earths.

That still defeats the purpose. I think we should create a city as a starting point for all RPs and if you need to go somewhere in the middle, then go ahead.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

That still defeats the purpose. I think we should create a city as a starting point for all RPs and if you need to go somewhere in the middle, then go ahead.

How does it defeat the purpose?
Sure, the surface area of 60 Earths is a lot of ground to cover, but it's more managable than 250,000,000 Earths' worth of space.

[Aix]

How does it defeat the purpose?
Sure, the surface area of 60 Earths is a lot of ground to cover, but it's more managable than 250,000,000 Earths' worth of space.

I barely interact with you who lives on the same Earth and likely the same continent as well, even though we are connected by an online social site and share a few common interests. It's not about how manageable it is, at such great distances, they may as well be the same, it's just that no one will ever need to come close to another at that distance. The point of us all being in the same place is so that events from one place may at least influence the events in another and all the better if paths merge.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

I barely interact with you who lives on the same Earth and likely the same continent as well, even though we are connected by an online social site and share a few common interests. It's not about how manageable it is, at such great distances, they may as well be the same, it's just that no one will ever need to come close to another at that distance. The point of us all being in the same place is so that events from one place may at least influence the events in another and all the better if paths merge.

I never said we couldn't have a hub city where most of the action takes place.
I'm trying to build the world around that city.