Toffee. Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Anime effect: 4 Level 9 monstersCannot be destroyed by battle except with "Number" monsters. This card is unaffected by other monster effects. If this card is Xyz Summoned by Ranking Up "Number 88: Gimmick Puppet of Leo", it gains this effect.โ Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; inflict 4000 damage to your opponent. During the end of each turn, if this card has no Xyz Materials, you win the Duel.Guys. I'm scared.I mean, Destiny Leo, by itself, was pretty crazy with it's IRL version- I'm shuddering at the fact it's IRL effect will only be an improvement of that. Or at least, what I'm thinking it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More than 3 characters Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 I swear if the mega burn effect is a non-Rank-Up effect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Wow, the real life card seems to have a massive slab of text. Obviously full of restrictions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 And with one card, Gimmick Puppets may become three times more relevant. ย Number 88 was already the best alternate win condition there was, because it was a legitmate option that could be achieved, but wasnt at all sacky and could be stopped. But this man, this might be insane. ย I mean, you may not even need the alternate win, just that 4000 burn is gonna do it for you having only to fear Spell and Trap cards, and any numbers stronger than itself. ย But yah, as stated above, that wall of text might as well be a complete remodel of the original effect. Almost certainly wont have 4000 burn if any, and will be significantly harder to get off its win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean of Deans Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Since the anime effect inflicts 4000, I feel like it would be reasonable to guess that the mega-burn effect will be nerfed quite a bit. Rather than 4000, I think that a burn of 2000 might be reasonable, since, if it were directly ranked up from Destiny Leo, it'll have 4 Xyz Material, so it'll have the option to just kill the opponent off with burn damage (2000 four times...8000). That said, I think it'll probably come along with a lot of the restrictions Destiny Leo had; probably it won't allow you to attack with it or whatnot, and that you won't be allowed to control any Spell/Traps. If it has the immunity to monster effects like it did in the anime that would be quite scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 So it's getting released? Cool. Hmm...I have no idea what the RL effect would be. After all, No.88 did the Destiny Counters thing for the win condition, and had a bunch of restrictions on when you could use that (no S/Ts on Field, no BP that turn). I think they might keep the megaburn effect to some degree. Maybe burn 1000 x the number of Overlay Units or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 So it's getting released? Cool. Hmm...I have no idea what the RL effect would be. After all, No.88 did the Destiny Counters thing for the win condition, and had a bunch of restrictions on when you could use that (no S/Ts on Field, no BP that turn). I think they might keep the megaburn effect to some degree. Maybe burn 1000 x the number of Overlay Units or something. ย As someone else speculated, it might inflict 2000 damage instead of 4000, it might have the "no backrow" + "no BP" restrictions, and it might need 4 "Disaster Counters" on it to win the Duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
็้ญใฎ็ Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 So it's getting released? Cool. Hmm...I have no idea what the RL effect would be. After all, No.88 did the Destiny Counters thing for the win condition, and had a bunch of restrictions on when you could use that (no S/Ts on Field, no BP that turn). I think they might keep the megaburn effect to some degree. Maybe burn 1000 x the number of Overlay Units or something. Course it is. No way a Number C wasn't, especially one that almost did in the Emperors.ย ย I'm not sure what they'll do either, but I hope it keeps monster immunity and does at least some of what the anime did. Obviously "run out of Material to win" doesn't work with how Number Cs normally do, but maybe they'll do something different like C101. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Guys, guys..... ย Remember what happened when big ol Number 92 got his C form released? Same thing here. Nothing to see, move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 That'd be conflicting, though. ย The Chaos Numbers in the anime didn't require the original form to be an Overlay Unit. It just needed to have been Ranked-Up with it. As such, C88 could detach its Overlay Units to trigger the instant win. This would not work with the RL version, because if you have to detach 1 to gain a Destiny Counter, and you need No.88 to use that effect, you will probably have to detach 88 itself at one point, which means it'll lose that part of the effect. ย Of course, that's assuming its effect says "If you have 88 as Material, it gains this effect: Detach 1 to add 1 Destiny Counter. When you have 4 Destiny Counters, you win". ย But also, the anime version just needed Overlays to 0 by any means. It only detached to burn for 4000. Destiny Leo's anime effect was "detach 1 for the hell of it. When you have 0, you win". Guys, guys..... ย Remember what happened when big ol Number 92 got his C form released? Same thing here. Nothing to see, move along. ย Big ol Number 92's anime Chaos form sucked, too. In fact, the RL version is almost identical to the anime version. C88 was actually GOOD in the anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 if this card is going to get released, and is going to be keeping the when 0 you win, then it stands to reason that it being a once per turn effect to remove, and it's going to burn in exchange for your turn's BP, and if you go to bp first, you can't, by wording, use the effect. which would be fair. and with the number having so many materials, it's once again a legitimate way to win still, you pop one off with leo ( hopefully) then rank up into this and pop another off, so your still on the same turn limitation, just have an easier time winning with it by allowing backrow or having some sort of self protection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 if this card is going to get released, and is going to be keeping the when 0 you win, then it stands to reason that it being a once per turn effect to remove, and it's going to burn in exchange for your turn's BP, and if you go to bp first, you can't, by wording, use the effect. which would be fair. and with the number having so many materials, it's once again a legitimate way to win still, you pop one off with leo ( hopefully) then rank up into this and pop another off, so your still on the same turn limitation, just have an easier time winning with it by allowing backrow or having some sort of self protection ย I doubt it'll literally require you to have 0 Overlays. Anime Destiny Leo and C88 both went that route, but the TCG Leo had the Destiny Counters shtick specifically so you couldn't abuse it with revival or effects that detach Materials (Xyz Gift/etc). And because they need an effect to be worthwhile to Rank Up 88 instead of just using 88 itself, I'm not sure they can do the Destiny Counter route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 [quote] Number C88: Gimmick Puppet Disaster Leo Rank 9 DARK Machine-Type Xyz Effect Monster ATK 3500 DEF 2500 Must be Special Summoned by a โRank-Up-Magicโ Spell Card that targeted a โNumber 88: Gimmick Puppet of Leoโ, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. This card on the field cannot be targeted by card effects. Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; inflict 1000 damage to your opponent. During your End Phase, if your opponentโs Life Points are 2000 or less, and this card has no Xyz Material, this cardโs controller wins the Duel. [/quote] ย ย http://ygorganization.com/premium-pack-16-spoiler/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
็้ญใฎ็ Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 This thing can OTK against an empty field using Oni-Gami Combo, and if your opponent somehow survives you sack them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 >Cannot be targetted by card effects ย N88 is now playable whatthefuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
็้ญใฎ็ Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 >Cannot be targetted by card effects ย N88 is now playable whatthefuck Oh, I didn't even notice that. Disregard my prior statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 WTF? ย You must use Rank-Up Magic on No.88, and can't Summon it by anything else. Okay. It detaches 1 to burn by 1000. It can't be targeted by card effects. And if your opponent has 2000 LP or less and this has no Materials, you win. During the End Phase. ย Actually, that's kind of cool. Except for No.88 sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 I guess using 88 for this is quite worth it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 The art, for anyone interested: ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
็้ญใฎ็ Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 The show's animation did not do it justice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 That lion.... ย I really like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 To be fair, unlike most burn monsters, you can still attack with this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
็้ญใฎ็ Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 To be fair, unlike most burn monsters, you can still attack with this card. Xyz Territory actually works really well with this guy. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 How does an Awesome-looking-machine-with-a-sword-but-crappy-card turn into this lion-decent-unrelated-card? I get the Leo. But that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
็้ญใฎ็ Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 How does an Awesome-looking-machine-with-a-sword-but-crappy-card turn into this lion-decent-unrelated-card? I get the Leo. But that's about it. It's shed its humanoid form in favour of a stronger, more beastial form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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