Northern Sage Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Add 1 Level 4 or lower Warrior-Type monster from your Deck to your hand. Reprint in the SD enhancement for LS. A staple in any Warrior deck, pretty much. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 If you're running more than 3 Warriors in your deck..., this card is pretty much a must play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 If you're running more than 3 Warriors in your deck..., this card is pretty much a must play. Pretty much. What does YCM think about this going to 2? With Stratos gone, seems like a minute chance it might actually happen. I can actually see Konami doing it just to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 This at 2 would be pretty silly, really. I mean, part of the reason why this is@1 is due to the fact this card is as probably as splashable as things like Allure of Darkness, where if you run at least 1 [X], you can play this.(Using that absurd logic, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 This at 3 was not quite consistent enough to make Warrior Toolbox a Deck. That was aided by Giant Rat. Probably wouldn't come back if this were at 3. Nonetheless, this at 3 would grant too much consistency to Lightsworns and Boxers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 This card has convinced me all "add x card from deck to hand" cards should be limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Pretty much. What does YCM think about this going to 2? With Stratos gone, seems like a minute chance it might actually happen. I can actually see Konami doing it just to see what happens. Tbh it should probably go to 3 after MAYBE shi en or lead yoke or whatever idk get rightfully slammed. Its not really the problem with anything that uses it, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 It's a boring effect. You want something to be consistent? Make a clone of this and a clone of Stratos. Done. In my ideal low level dirty muggle view of the game, consistency should come in exchange for advantage or require interaction. Or the player should just run a net of combos with decent synergy to make up for the lack of search. It's called deck-building. "Oh but that'd make decks suck!" but in my ideal low level dirty muggle view of the game, the game wouldn't be as powercreeped, but enough of my absurd ideas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondWar Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 If you're running more than 3 Warriors in your deck..., this card is pretty much a must play. It is not compulsory over 3 warriors on deck to become essential. In evilswarm decks you run 3 beaver, and this card is essential anyway. Not to mention that lswarm decks ARE NOT warrior decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 It is not compulsory over 3 warriors on deck to become essential. Evilswarm the decks you run 3 beaver, and this card is essential anyway. Not to mention that lswarm decks ARE NOT warrior decks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 It is not compulsory over 3 warriors on deck to become essential. Evilswarm the decks you run 3 beaver, and this card is essential anyway. Not to mention that lswarm decks ARE NOT warrior decks. *Never heard of Evilswarm Beaver.* *Looks up "Evilswarm Beaver" on DN. No results.* *Looks up "Lswarm Beaver" instead. No results.* *Looks up "Beaver." One result - Beaver Warrior.* *Looks up Evilswarm and checks to see which ones are Warrior.* *There's one. It's Castor.* *Castor doesn't look like a beaver at all.* *Checks the wiki to make sure.* *Yep, no Evilswarm Beaver.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 *Never heard of Evilswarm Beaver.* *Looks up "Evilswarm Beaver" on DN. No results.* *Looks up "Lswarm Beaver" instead. No results.* *Looks up "Beaver." One result - Beaver Warrior.* *Looks up Evilswarm and checks to see which ones are Warrior.* *There's one. It's Castor.* *Castor doesn't look like a beaver at all.* *Checks the wiki to make sure.* *Yep, no Evilswarm Beaver.* Castor is Greek for Beaver/he who excels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Castor is Greek for Beaver/he who excels. Yes a Castor is a beaber. In Spanish as well. El Castor Los Castores Though the relation somehow never crossed my mind. . . . Funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Stratos isn't the reason this is at 1, nor is Stratos' ban reason for this to come back to more than 1. Why would you even assume that? E-HERO Decks have E-Emergency Call, aka "Reinforcement of the Army 2.0". Reinforcement is at 1 because there's so many targets for it that are good monsters for a variety of strategies. It allowed Warrior Decks to pull almost anything they needed to counter the current situation, plus the advantages of Deck thinning. And with Six Samurai stuff around (and they have a slightly inferior version of this card), Reinforcement's not going anywhere. Smoke Signal can't search Kizan. This can, plus it can search everything Smoke Signal can. And a ton of stuff Smoke Signal can't. This also helps Noble Knights. Sure, the TCG loves them Noble Knights, but giving ALL Warrior-focused Decks more search power isn't going to just help Noble Knights. It'll help way too many things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondWar Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 *Never heard of Evilswarm Beaver.* *Looks up "Evilswarm Beaver" on DN. No results.* *Looks up "Lswarm Beaver" instead. No results.* *Looks up "Beaver." One result - Beaver Warrior.* *Looks up Evilswarm and checks to see which ones are Warrior.* *There's one. It's Castor.* *Castor doesn't look like a beaver at all.* *Checks the wiki to make sure.* *Yep, no Evilswarm Beaver.* I have lost count of the number of times the google translate got me through dumb ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I think whats pretty silly about this card, is that given the fact the current card pool is how it is; This@2 would lead to more consistent OTKs and/or herp-derp auto-win scenarios.lswarm decks ARE NOT warrior decks.lswarm decks aren't Rabbit decks either. Doesn't change the fact they still play it for the sake of getting 2x Helio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 If this goes to 2 just because they want to support Carpool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondWar Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I think whats pretty silly about this card, is that given the fact the current card pool is how it is; This@2 would lead to more consistent OTKs and/or herp-derp auto-win scenarios. lswarm decks aren't Rabbit decks either. Doesn't change the fact they still play it for the sake of getting 2x Helio. When I say that the lswarm deck is not warrior deck, I'm saying that is lswarm archetype is not warrior archetype, you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 When I say that the lswarm deck is not warrior deck, I'm saying that is lswarm archetype is not warrior archetype, you know? But that doesn't mean you can't run multiple RotA's in the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondWar Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 But that doesn't mean you can't run multiple RotA's in the deck. And I meant it? Particularly, I only use 1 on my Evilswarm Deck, because in this deck, ROTA only serves to search for Castor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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