Aix Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Claire Stanfield Strongest character in the Baccano! universe, said to be able to solo everyone in it. Called Vino because of the fact that his victims are utterly covered in blood as if dunked in wine. I'm going to leave Outskirts Battledome profiles here instead. http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Claire+Stanfield http://baccano.wikia.com/wiki/Felix_Walken Batman I'm sure everyone knows Batman. http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 I'm assuming Batman doesn't get prep time here? Because otherwise Vino wouldn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Batman makes prep time. Leaving the fight mid-episode, studying in advance, mid-fight, etc. No matter what, he'd have time to study up on the opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 There's a vast difference between actual prep time (where he can make strategies and bring specialized weapons and equipment specifically for his opponent) and sizing up his opponent mid-fight (where he starts off with little to no info on who he's fighting, with only his standard, non-lethal, equipment). Take the Death Battle fight between him and Spider-Man for example, where he had no prep-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 There's a vast difference between actual prep time (where he can make strategies and bring specialized weapons and equipment specifically for his opponent) and sizing up his opponent mid-fight (where he starts off with little to no info on who he's fighting, with only his standard, non-lethal, equipment). Take the Death Battle fight between him and Spider-Man for example, where he had no prep-time. I saw that. But why would you just pick a fight with Spider Man, and not prep up? And besides, those always lean one way and ignore some obvious stats and tools. Although, if I knew more about the opponent in this case, I might vote the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 That's not important, I'm talking about Batman's prep time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Nah, no prep time. Vino's an assassin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Batman makes prep time. Leaving the fight mid-episode, studying in advance, mid-fight, etc. No matter what, he'd have time to study up on the opponent. Escape from Vino... hahahaha. Though, I actually don't know too much about Batman. Despite Baccano! being a very realistic universe power-level wise for anime, Vino is a guy who can dodge bullets with utter ease and catch ground destroying strikes like nothing. At the end of the anime, he comments how all the events that transpired were a total walk in the park for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 He's the type of the guy who still chase pirates even in his 90s iirc. Batman may have the edge of being more cunning and having more futuristic gadgets, but Vino wins due to sheer force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Yeah, I'd probably have to give it to Vino. With no prep time, Batman usually can't keep up with the superhuman, realistically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Yeah, I'd probably have to give it to Vino. With no prep time, Batman usually can't keep up with the superhuman, realistically. Though, what sort of preparations do you think he would be able to make against Vino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Even against assassins, Batman finds out about them before they find him. Arkham Origins is a prime example. Even early in his career, he was good at tracking and preparing. Heck, he doesn't usually need to prepare, he can just improvise. I'm just saying, no matter which way you say it, the only way Batman would get no prep time is if he was suddenly gassed. He's just too keen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 the only way Batman would get no prep time is if he was suddenly gassed. Or if he's just spontaneously put into a fight with someone--someone from another fictional universe that he couldn't possibly know anything about--because of the whims of the internet. Which also gives Vino no prep time. Oh wait, that's what this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Even against assassins, Batman finds out about them before they find him. Arkham Origins is a prime example. Even early in his career, he was good at tracking and preparing. Heck, he doesn't usually need to prepare, he can just improvise. I'm just saying, no matter which way you say it, the only way Batman would get no prep time is if he was suddenly gassed. He's just too keen. Vino is simply given a call and he is off, not sure how you would prepare against that. Vino needs no time to prepare, he arrives, kills his victims with his bare hands and pretty much drowns them in their own blood. Even immortals (these are guys that just come back to life after dying) fear him. His insane acrobatic skills allow him to approach from any angle and his acting skills are superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Vino is simply given a call and he is off, not sure how you would prepare against that. Vino needs no time to prepare, he arrives, kills his victims with his bare hands and pretty much drowns them in their own blood. Even immortals (these are guys that just come back to life after dying) fear him. His insane acrobatic skills allow him to approach from any angle and his acting skills are superb. Don't know this guy well enough. Does he tear through any armors he fights? Like Batman's for example. This guy is mortal, can be shot, and hurt, right? I mean, no matter what, he is (I assume) human, and can still die. But hey, when you put two universes together....XD Power is such a hard thing to gauge anymore. Let's say "IT'S OVER 9000!" and move on. Don't people fear Batman too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Batman's taking this one for me. Like above, I don't even know who the other guy is; and even if I did, let's just assume that both are fighting on equal ground w/out any time to research each other in this world. Batman is more resourceful and most likely adapt to whatever Vino is going to be doing (even on the fly), whereas based on what I'm reading about V, he's simply an assassin with bare hands. But then again, we're comparing cross-universe characters so either of them could have an advantage over the other; based on what they do, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted November 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Basically Vino's never been hit by anything, including bullets. He dodges bullets and easily catches any other sort of projectile. He strength is sufficient to just catch a blow that would create a crater on the ground without flinching. Don't know this guy well enough. Does he tear through any armors he fights? Like Batman's for example. This guy is mortal, can be shot, and hurt, right? I mean, no matter what, he is (I assume) human, and can still die. But hey, when you put two universes together....XD Power is such a hard thing to gauge anymore. Let's say "IT'S OVER 9000!" and move on. Don't people fear Batman too? He actually turned down the Elixir of Immortality because he believed that he would never die and no one's ever come close to killing him thus far. Word of God also says that he can beat an immortal demon who can create things out of nothing, including legendary weapons and the Elixir of Immortality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'll give this to Batman. He's been thrown into some pretty impossible situations and he camd out on top. I also say he should have won the Death Battle against Spider Man. I mean, come on, he just STOOD there while Spider Man threw web at him. Batman is capable of doging that. Oh, and Batman can bench press 1,000lbs. :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'll give this to Batman. He's been thrown into some pretty impossible situations and he camd out on top. I also say he should have won the Death Battle against Spider Man. I mean, come on, he just STOOD there while Spider Man threw web at him. Batman is capable of doging that. Oh, and Batman can bench press 1,000lbs. :< In Death Battle the animated fight (which encompasses your complaint about the webbing shot at him) has no bearing on the result and is just for entertainment value. All fight results are determined solely on the research done. And Batman isn't as strong as you'd think, at least compared to the superhuman Vino. (Or Spider-Man, who can lift 20 tons in comparison to Batman's 1/2 a ton.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Hey, I actually know who Vino is :D So basically: With prep time: Batman Without prep time: Vino Hard to say who would universally win. Batman is armed to the teeth with gadgets and he basically knows Gotham on the back on his hand. Not to mention he can glide from building to building with his cape. Though one thing that Batman has that Vino doesn't is mercy. Batman would never kill anyone except on accident. Whereas Vino is a sick motherf*cker who kills without reason or regret while he and his victims are drenched in blood. This kind of approach could lead to Vino using civilians as a form of defense, making Batman look like the murderer. So with that... my vote goes to Vino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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