Northern Sage Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Dragon/Xyz/Effect LIGHT 3 Level 9 monsters Cannot be destroyed by battle except with "Number" monsters. You can Tribute 2 other monsters that have not attacked this turn; this card can attack 3 times during each Battle Phase this turn. If this card is Xyz Summoned by Ranking Up "Number 107: Galaxy-Eyes Tachyon Dragon", it gains this effect. ● You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; negate the effects of all other cards on the field until the End Phase, also return all other cards that were used during this turn to the same position they were at the start of this turn. The player who activated this effect chooses which of the cards affected by this effect can be used during this turn. Every bit as crazy as we thought, or maybe not. Unknown DEF still. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I actually don't like it. Apart from the triple attack costing two mons, it basically gives you control over the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 One word: Bites the dust!(props for anyone recognizing the reference). The ATK thrice effect is quite powerful, but the time reset effect is definitely crazy. Also, if you actually messed up(somehow) you can redo everything all over again due to it not having once per turn clause. I expect this to be a ruling headache once released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoricuaBeast Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Effect is kinda meh... Not something I would expect from Misael's boss monster. Could have been a bit better. As for the DEF, it probably might be the same as Neo-Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon at 3000, since the regular Tachyon matched GEPD in stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I'm right in thinking that the time warp essentially gives you back the tributes? I mean, that makes it's crazy enough because you can feasably get 13500+ of attack each turn you ue the effect. It's crazy, slightly broken I think, and arguably worth the wait. The IRL version will be tribute up to two monsters I think. Now I just want to see the IRL versiosn of this and the Gimmick Puppet Numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Imagine all the loops that can be made with this, since his doesn't cancel card effects that already happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 This + Tremendous Fire and Overlay Regenerate on Set on your side of the field.Flip fire, deal 1000 damage.Flip Regen, attach it to This.Use this, detach Regen; Regen and Fire return to the field.LETS DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!*shot several times*In all seriousness, though, this card's effect is absurd :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Guys, I'm pretty sure this only affects cards that are on the field. The term "Position" in yugioh refers to things being set/face-up, and Attack/Defense position. It doesn't refer to anything else, this isn't some game-breaking effect that puts cards BACK on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 No way in hell that second effect is staying as it is. A ruling nightmare. I can see them keeping the Trident Dragion one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think there was a clause preventing you from using those cards in the same turn. Either that, or Mizael was just saying that the Traps being re-Set was the same as how Scrap-Iron Scarecrow works. EDIT: Re-read. The player CHOOSES which cards can be used that turn. That's BS. It should just outright limit all the cards, but then again, I see why it gives you control: Tachyon Dragon and Neo Tachyon run off the theme that they can travel through time to affect the outcomes. If this is a Quick Effect, it's awesome. Worthwhile? Eh...maybe not. But it's still a devastating card and I greatly enjoy it. The time warp effect is hilariously awesome. Guys, I'm pretty sure this only affects cards that are on the field. The term "Position" in yugioh refers to things being set/face-up, and Attack/Defense position. It doesn't refer to anything else, this isn't some game-breaking effect that puts cards BACK on the field. Mizael's Rank-Up Magic returned to his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Guys, I'm pretty sure this only affects cards that are on the field. The term "Position" in yugioh refers to things being set/face-up, and Attack/Defense position. It doesn't refer to anything else, this isn't some game-breaking effect that puts cards BACK on the field. As further evidence to what Evilfusion said, the effect on the wikia elaborates: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; negate the effects of all other cards currently on the field, until the End Phase, also return all other cards (from anywhere) that were used during this turn to the same place (hand, field, Graveyard, Deck, or banished) and position they were at the start of this turn. The player who activated this effect chooses which of the cards affected by this effect can be used during this turn. Not perfect I know, but still. The card is plain stupid as it stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 The card is plain stupid as it stands. It's almost like Fiber Jar in the sense that it resets the field, but you have more control over the reset. Also it's the Chaos version of a Rank 8, and it's been hyped/put off for ages, so it should have something crazy in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 It's almost like Fiber Jar in the sense that it resets the field, but you have more control over the reset. Also it's the Chaos version of a Rank 8, and it's been hyped/put off for ages, so it should have something crazy in my opinion. Which is really ironic because Rank 8 is like completely out of key in how good the cards are. In that most of them are sucky compared to Rank 7's. Also just one little thing to note: Summoning this and then using it's effect in the same turn technically gives you Tachyon back immediately. I think at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think there was a clause preventing you from using those cards in the same turn. Either that, or Mizael was just saying that the Traps being re-Set was the same as how Scrap-Iron Scarecrow works. EDIT: Re-read. The player CHOOSES which cards can be used that turn. That's BS. It should just outright limit all the cards, but then again, I see why it gives you control: Tachyon Dragon and Neo Tachyon run off the theme that they can travel through time to affect the outcomes. If this is a Quick Effect, it's awesome. Worthwhile? Eh...maybe not. But it's still a devastating card and I greatly enjoy it. The time warp effect is hilariously awesome. Mizael's Rank-Up Magic returned to his hand. Oh. Well then. Where's the link to the new episode anyways? I couldn't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Well then. Where's the link to the new episode anyways? I couldn't find it. Check the "relevant" Zexal anime thread, evilfusion posted a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Check the "relevant" Zexal anime thread, evilfusion posted a link. That wasn't there last time I checked. @.@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 That wasn't there last time I checked. @.@ Really? evilfusion's post was like almost an hour ago or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 For this effect to work, wouldn't both players have to write out game-state logs at the start of each turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 For this effect to work, wouldn't both players have to write out game-state logs at the start of each turn?No, just note the whole field the turn Galaxy hits the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 No, just note the whole field the turn Galaxy hits the field. Except you won't know what turn that is until it does, and by that time if both players don't remember the turn-start game state they may argue about it, and the judge would have nothing to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Neo Tachyon hits the field, uninterrupted.Pull out notepad and note everything.I mean, it's the same logic as when people do that when they use cards to look at your hand, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Neo Tachyon hits the field, uninterrupted. Pull out notepad and note everything. I mean, it's the same logic as when people do that when they use cards to look at your hand, right? Except you have to note the game state for the start of the turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopy Star - Eon Sphere Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Two words: Photon Sanctuary. Why yes, I do like 13500 points of damage thanks. As for doing the time warp (again), It's obviously going to be a full field negation (hopefully) with no activation of set cards allowed. That would make it so much better than NGEPD that I was going to write a number of times better it would be but I ran out of space. Plus the fact that it's not a waste of resources if your opponent has no monsters. Why would you not use this? Oh apart from RUM being bad (read: unsearchable) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 It will be difficult to word this card's effect, but note that No.92 banishes all cards your opponent Summoned and Set during the turn, even if No.92 wasn't face-up when those cards were played. So it's not an impossible effect to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think this is the one OP Dragon that doesn't seem like BS. It doesn't summon anything out of anywhere, and has a rather unique effect. Not an instant win either. That attacking thing is pretty nifty, but pales compared to Neo Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon. My friend once summoned him and managed to use his effect to attack 10 times that turn. With 9500 ATK. This guy can't compare with attacking, except that his is somewhat easier to use. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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