Nathanael D. Striker Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Rules 1. All Leaderboard and Tournament Rules Apply 2. First to 3 votes or most by 11:59 pm Pacific Time on October 30th wins. 3. Votes must have a valid reason. 4. Winner gets 1 Rep from loser. 5. I have the right to add rules. Card Requirement Create a generic Spirit Synchro monster Card A Brionac, Spirit Dragon of the Ice Barrier WATER, Level 6 Dragon/Synchro/Spirit 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters Must be Synchro Summoned, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. During the End Phase of the turn this card is Synchro Summoned: Return it to the Extra Deck. When this card is Synchro Summoned, if your opponent controls more monsters than you do: You can target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls; take control of that target. Return it to the hand when this card leaves the field. You cannot Summon monsters for the rest of this turn, except “Ice Barrier” monsters. ATK 2250/DEF 1450 Card B 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters When you Synchro Summon this card, you can use 1 Spirit Monster instead of 1 Tuner Monster. This card returns to the Extra Deck during the End Phase of the turn it is Special Summoned. When this card is Synchro Summoned: Special Summon 1 Spirit Monster from your hand or Graveyard, ignoring Summoning conditions. It is treated as being Normal Summoned. If a Spirit Monster is destroyed: you can return it to your hand instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Card A seems to be too good, since a Change of Heart/Compulse as a level 6 generic is really good, but the restriction balanced it. A nice support for Ice Barriers, and made Prior really good. Card B is easily abused with Aratama and Treeborn Frog, which summons this card for free, then you get to revive aratama AND search again. Or worse, revive things like Yamata and Hinokagutsuchi to deal some serious damage. It's a nice support, but even with the current spirit pool, it's too abusable, and definitely will be more as more spirits are released. Vote for Card A, a balanced take on Big Eye, while being a legitimate Ice Barrier support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 1-0 Card A Thanks for voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Going for Card A also. While I'm not too fond of it being named after an currently existing card (I'm not factoring that into my decision by any means though), it does function as a Big Eye for Ice Barriers except with the condition that your opponent needs more monsters than you, which is nice and returns that monster to the hand at the same time this goes back. Card B pretty much can summon stuff like Yamata Dragon/Hino-Kagu-tsuchi (like Rainbow mentioned) and/or set up a search loop. It helps Spirits be a bit easier to summon but can be abused in a couple ways and certainly future additions will fuel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 2-0 Card A Thanks for voting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Ehm... am I the only one around here who's not convinced by people voting for a card for its value to an archetype, when the condition is to make a generic card...? I mean I know I'm supposed to just sit here and wait till I lose but I'm surprised that the other card is getting votes BECAUSE of going against the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 It's a bonus, really. Not to mention the other card isn't generic at all. For genericness, Card A still wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 It's a bonus, really. Not to mention the other card isn't generic at all. For genericness, Card A still wins. >going against the task >it's a bonus Are we even talking about the same thing? Granted, this whole point I make is completely moot if all Striker meant by generic was in its materials, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 A card that's definitely only going to be usable in a Spirit build vs a card that has a generic effect with a bonus if used in a certain deck. If going by your definition of generic, neither are in that category, so that point is moot. Card A is definitely more generic though, for its effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 A card that's definitely only going to be usable in a Spirit build vs a card that has a generic effect with a bonus if used in a certain deck. If going by your definition of generic, neither are in that category, so that point is moot. Card A is definitely more generic though, for its effect. Well, the thing is this... Spirit Synchros don't actually exist. Therefore the clearest possible interpretation of Striker's task was to consider Spirit Monsters as a sort of archetype. This led to making a generic synchro which supports Spirits. If genericness IS in materials, and unless Striker wanted us to make cards that don't really exist in the game for the hell of it... the second card supports Spirits. The first, Ice Barriers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Mugen, I'm afraid you lose this argument. I wanted to see what everyone did with this concept, so yea. :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Very well. Since the secrecy is broken and whatnot, might as well hand it to you. Game's over. Mugen, I'm afraid you lose this argument. I wanted to see what everyone did with this concept, so yea. :3 What kind of response is this though? Because all I'm reading right now is "nope, fuck you". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Should have worded that differently. When I said generic, I meant its materials. And I wanted to see how others would interpret and handle the requirement. And I wish you would have not gotten into an argument tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Should have worded that differently. When I said generic, I meant its materials. And I wanted to see how others would interpret and handle the requirement. And I wish you would have not gotten into an argument tbh. It's what I do when something that is ambiguous tends to resolve on the retarded side. Such is the case when a monster stealer is called more balanced than a monster which allows a deck fully reliant on normal summoning to be a little faster. No, no. The butthurt's getting to me. Just make it stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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