LuffyLaxer Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Monsters x25 x3 Blaster x3 Tidal x3 Redox x3 Tempest x2 Debris x2 Card Trooper x2 Maxx C x2 Effect Vieler x2 Flamvell Guard x1 Dandylion x1 Coresca x1 Swift Scarecrow x1 Gorz Spells x12 x2 Ravine x2 Cards x1 Shrine x2 Typhoon x1 Dark Hole x1 Book of Moon x1 Gold Sarc x1 Scapegoat x1 Terraforming Traps x4 x1 Return x1 Mirror Force x1 Non Aggression Area x1 Castle of Dragon Souls Do not recommend seven Swords. I can't get it right now. And Some of the cards from the extra deck im borrowing. Extra Star Eater Stardust Colossal Scrap Dragon Crimson Black Rose Ancient Fairy HTS Orient Catastor Armory Formula Gaia Dragon Number 74 Draccossack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 So uh, why run Shrine when you can be running Terraforming instead. Considering the only target that makes it any better than Foolish- or Ravine- is Flamvell Guard which is little more than Ruler fuel once graved anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted October 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Just personally like the shrine. I can run terraforming. guess i gotta look through the common tins for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 You should be maxing out Ravine, and Card Trooper is bad because it's going to get bladered and you're going to lose a lot. Dandy seems bad too, and Debris seems cute but my worth it. Scapegoat's shit here, despite some people liking it, an MST in the main is a no.Why are you not running three Seven Star Sword Ignore that. But if you're not running them you have no reason to waste money on Dragons, as they're going to suck. Don't run Shrine because you're not running Blue-Eyes variant, and don't run Terraforming either. Why the hell are you playing Mirror Force and Non-Aggression Area? Neither of those are good in Dragons. Play 1-2 Raigeki Break, it's essentially free removal. I understand you're borrowing the extra, but where the hell is your Big Eye? The extra seems really meh overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Why are you not running three Seven Star Sword? Cause he can't afford them, he wrote that in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Cause he can't afford them, he wrote that in the OP. Missed that, and edited. Because if you're not running Sword, there's no reason to play Dragons as you're giving up almost everything good about the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 @Masqurade magician Yeah Sword is a loss, but i can compensate. I do reasonably well with the deck without the swords. Typhoon I've been testing is actually pretty good. Besides i don't think you've been paying attention to the past 3 weeks including san Mateo cause i've seen a lot of player run Typhoon. trooper can get bladered. it s a risk, but it is in this type of deck a good risk. Scapegoat was something to replace sword and it is a pretty decent card. I can replace it with a third ravine though. the reason why i didn't play break was because in my area, break is easily defended against. I decided to go a different route. Why would u not run terraforming? @Mugendramon I'm negging 1 shrine for 1 terraforming. thanks for the tip. I might keep the 1 shrine. it just looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 @Masqurade magician Yeah Sword is a loss, but i can compensate. I do reasonably well with the deck without the swords. Typhoon I've been testing is actually pretty good. Besides i don't think you've been paying attention to the past 3 weeks including san Mateo cause i've seen a lot of player run Typhoon. trooper can get bladered. it s a risk, but it is in this type of deck a good risk. Scapegoat was something to replace sword and it is a pretty decent card. I can replace it with a third ravine though. the reason why i didn't play break was because in my area, break is easily defended against. I decided to go a different route. Why would u not run terraforming? But you can't. Maybe at a locals, but without swords, your deck is an actual joke that'll exhaust itself way too fast unless you get lucky, comparatively. Implying every YCS Deck is good. It's still not very good in the main, especially over Break. If you're going to run MST, you might as well run a more versatile one with a non-existant "cost". You either play Break or PWWB. You do not simply run neither for shit cards like Mirror Force. Why would you run a dead draw that does nothing for the deck that it shouldn't already be doing? I mean, I guess you can do it witout Swords, but this goes back to no Swords being reason enough to just not play the deck in the first place as you're giving up the card that makes Dragons still Dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 You should be maxing out Ravine, and Card Trooper is bad because it's going to get bladered and you're going to lose a lot. Dandy seems bad too, and Debris seems cute but my worth it. Scapegoat's shit here, despite some people liking it, an MST in the main is a no.Why are you not running three Seven Star Sword Ignore that. But if you're not running them you have no reason to waste money on Dragons, as they're going to suck. Don't run Shrine because you're not running Blue-Eyes variant, and don't run Terraforming either. Why the hell are you playing Mirror Force and Non-Aggression Area? Neither of those are good in Dragons. Play 1-2 Raigeki Break, it's essentially free removal. I understand you're borrowing the extra, but where the hell is your Big Eye? The extra seems really meh overall. Non Aggression Area and Mirror Force are good cards. Mirror Force is a blowout because the mirror is mainly about damage and Dracossack hardly comes up outside of Ancient Fairy combos. Stardust can make MF irrelevant, but not unmainable. Non Aggression Area is a total blowout vs the mirror and Mermails, and the consistency of dragons allows you to pick it up almost every game. MST in the maindeck is becoming standard due to trends in trap lineups. Vanity's Emptiness is falling out of favor but most Dragon decks main 7+ traps and MST is good vs like every other deck as well so there's no reason not to play three. Obviously playing MST before Raigeki Break or Wind Blast is wrong, but MST is still definitely good. Debris is obviously amazing in this deck, but you need Trigon to make it a lot better due to all of the Ancient Fairy combos. Dragon Shrine might as well be necessary because of the lack of swords, but I feel to make the deck work without shrine you need to play more level 1 tuners for Consonance, and then max Consonance. 2 Debris 2 Corsesca 2 Guard works very well with 3 Consonance, and you can also use Reckless Greed, a card that also fits in very well. Keep in note that with Shrine and 2 Guard, Shrine can become a mill 2 at the cost of losing tuners, but still a mill 2. However, to get the most use out of Ravine and MST in this deck you need to play 3. Swords takes away from the consistency to open them every game so the third Ravine is extremely important. I don't think Goats, Gorz, Dark Hole, or Sarco are good in the main. They don't help the deck enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Non Aggression Area and Mirror Force are good cards. Mirror Force is a blowout because the mirror is mainly about damage and Dracossack hardly comes up outside of Ancient Fairy combos. Stardust can make MF irrelevant, but not unmainable. Non Aggression Area is a total blowout vs the mirror and Mermails, and the consistency of dragons allows you to pick it up almost every game. MST in the maindeck is becoming standard due to trends in trap lineups. Vanity's Emptiness is falling out of favor but most Dragon decks main 7+ traps and MST is good vs like every other deck as well so there's no reason not to play three. Obviously playing MST before Raigeki Break or Wind Blast is wrong, but MST is still definitely good. Debris is obviously amazing in this deck, but you need Trigon to make it a lot better due to all of the Ancient Fairy combos. Dragon Shrine might as well be necessary because of the lack of swords, but I feel to make the deck work without shrine you need to play more level 1 tuners for Consonance, and then max Consonance. 2 Debris 2 Corsesca 2 Guard works very well with 3 Consonance, and you can also use Reckless Greed, a card that also fits in very well. Keep in note that with Shrine and 2 Guard, Shrine can become a mill 2 at the cost of losing tuners, but still a mill 2. However, to get the most use out of Ravine and MST in this deck you need to play 3. Swords takes away from the consistency to open them every game so the third Ravine is extremely important. I don't think Goats, Gorz, Dark Hole, or Sarco are good in the main. They don't help the deck enough. I personally like the dark hole cause it is good in other match-ups. What's your opinion on karma Cut? Cause i have those and they pretty much do the same thing. I personally like the MST's but i can test with out them. Goats and gorz were just defenses that are unexpected. i could neg them though if i must. Trigon huh? I've seen billy brake play it, so it must be good. I don't know all the combos though. Unless it's straight forward. mind telling me these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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