evilfusion Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Naturally, the Battle areas cheat like hell. And with items like Quick Claw, you may quickly discover exactly how unfair it can be, and that's why people hate them. Still, I love when I get a good streak going, and then my opponents suddenly drop teams of legendaries against me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 If you want easyish battle mansion wins, look up the truant durant method Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 If you want easyish battle mansion wins, look up the truant durant method Looked it up; Doesn't look all effective, rather it just reminds me of the Mega Gengar/Destiny Bond thing. Especially if you're facing Fire Types. Not even a Focus Sash should help I believe, if Durant has some inconsiderate stats in general. Quick n' Easy IMO is the way to go for the Maison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Naturally, the Battle areas cheat like hell. And with items like Quick Claw, you may quickly discover exactly how unfair it can be, and that's why people hate them. Still, I love when I get a good streak going, and then my opponents suddenly drop teams of legendaries against me. Yeah, I've noticed that a lot during my runs at the Battle Institute (and going back two generations to Battle Revolution). During 4th or final round, you get a Veteran that spams all of the available legendaries that can be used. It's gotten to the point that I've had to resort to using my own legends against them. Most of the time, I kill them; think once or twice, I got screwed by them (only because their Zapdos kept getting Double Team boosts and my "100% accuracy" attacks kept missing; I killed their other two/three though, but not without one of them shooting a Toxic on me before dying). Might help if I don't play as much Doubles or make sure all of my Pokes are compatible with each other in any given situation [or I have them fully trained with the attacks I want]. This is more of a personal thing than the Battle areas cheating, but if any of those veterans even use the Eon twins against me, I personally want to kill them for doing that (even though it's randomized). There are some stuff about the Maison, but not really bothering to do it b/c their movesets are pretty much Smogon-level (or even borderline on hax/cheating) Think I complained about a earlier instance a few posts back with Mega Lucario and Manectric, but that probably was a misunderstanding on whether or not the Pokemon would get a speed boost in its Mega form and would outspeed the opponent on the first turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Speaking of mega evolutions, something interesting happened to me a few days ago. I was facing my friend, and his (unscarfed)garchomp somehow outran my mega gengar. It still died, but it was still pretty weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 If you Mega Evolved that turn then that's easily explained, since you still use the base version's Speed in regards to the turn of Mega Evolution, then you use the Mega Evo's for the rest of the time. If that's not the case then I'm stymied unless your Gengar has crappy Speed IVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 That makes sense. As for Gengar, what nature is it running? If it has a speed cutting one, that might be a possible reason. Either you have low IVs/a neutral nature, Chomp had a +Spd nature or something that allows it to be faster or you both had a speed tie and Gengar lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Garchomp's max speed is 333. Just look to see if that beats out your Gengar's speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 You're right. My gengar came from heart gold so I never bothered to check his EVs. they're terrible, It's literally in all the wrong places for his EVs, so I guess I need to start retraining him. (On the bright side, I now know why he hasn't been doing as much damage as he should have been in his mega form.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Yeah, that would have done it. The difference between proper EV training and just generic training is pretty staggering, and with the fact that Super Training is available from the word go it is literally easier than EVer to be fully EV trained before you even fight your Rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Just check if you have any Reset bags you can use to fix it (or have a lot of the reducing berries on hand). But yeah, it is easier to EV train [no more having to keep written records of what stats were boosted + guessing unlike in the first five generations] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I like how they did the smart thing by making the maximum EVs you can have for one stat 252. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Just check if you have any Reset bags you can use to fix it (or have a lot of the reducing berries on hand).But yeah, it is easier to EV train [no more having to keep written records of what stats were boosted + guessing unlike in the first five generations]What made EV training easier isn't that you not longer need to keep a written record (in 4th gen I would just battle the same trainers over and over) its horde battles. Getting 25 per battle makes it a simple matter of "use all of Earthquakes pp". Before, the max you could get per battle was like 14 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 What made EV training easier isn't that you not longer need to keep a written record (in 4th gen I would just battle the same trainers over and over) its horde battles. Getting 25 per battle makes it a simple matter of "use all of Earthquakes pp". Before, the max you could get per battle was like 14 I think. Only 25 per battle? Someone isn't using Pokérus. I like how they did the smart thing by making the maximum EVs you can have for one stat 252. Wait, this is actually a thing? I don't need to worry about wasting those last 2 EVs anymore? I can be reckless with maxing it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Only 25 per battle? Someone isn't using Pokérus.I have the option I using Pokerus. The problem is getting it to spread. I've had times where I've had to miss several battles because I like having an constant number of EVs when training and didn't want to start EV training until it spread. Not to mention when you aren't going for the max Pokerus is too heavy handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I have some Pokemon infected with Pokerus (indirectly). Since I usually go max in two stats (and leave the last 6 for boosting a third stat slightly), having it isn't too much of a problem. But I do have problems having it spread as well; some of the Pokes I want to train have it and the rest don't (even when they're next to a Pokemon that actively has). Otherwise, I'll just have to keep the Macho Brace on them until it comes [I still have a few more Pokes in box that have Pokerus in case the current ones I'm using get cured] @Agro: Yeah, you can be reckless about training now and not worry about over EV training. Just make sure you don't have any EVs in stats you don't want to boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 So as it turns out, the Mew & Deoxys I have from way back when were able to get by the sensors. So this either means I didn't shark them like I thought, I did and the Bank didn't notice, or the Bank doesn't care if it was legit or not because I sharked the item needed to get to them instead of sharking the mons themselves.Anyway, following that, here are the legendaries I can't get myself to complete my dex:TornadusReshiramLandorusAnd for realzies:ShayminMeloettaGenesectAlso, wouldn't mind getting help to get:Snivy line (I could just use my own system, but this could be faster)Vullaby lineBinacle lineAmaura line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 I believe the censors take a look at what level and where it was found before it lets them pass. I cheated to get to Lugia, Ho-Oh, Deoxys and Mew in Emerald, but, I caught them all legitimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 @Agro: I think I have some spare Amauras in box if you want them; they're Modest though. Need to switch on DS though if you're interested. I think there was a list of Pokebank stuff I still need for dex a few pages back if you have those. I tried to import a Scizor from White 2 [originally found in HGSS], but it didn't pass. Guy I got it from said he got it during the Bug Catching contest or something. But doesn't matter too much; I can try my luck at getting Scyther on Route 21 [problem is that I need someone to help trade evolve it]. On that note, I need help evolving a Feebas into Milotic (it's named after Zex) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 @Agro: I think I have some spare Amauras in box if you want them; they're Modest though. Need to switch on DS though if you're interested. I think there was a list of Pokebank stuff I still need for dex a few pages back if you have those. I tried to import a Scizor from White 2 [originally found in HGSS], but it didn't pass. Guy I got it from said he got it during the Bug Catching contest or something. But doesn't matter too much; I can try my luck at getting Scyther on Route 21 [problem is that I need someone to help trade evolve it]. On that note, I need help evolving a Feebas into Milotic (it's named after Zex)I can help you evolve anything you want.also, agro, I have some of the legends you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 My Darkrai was caught at Lv 2 and still got through. I have no idea what they look for. I cleared X of all Pokemon bar the Pokemon that are from Non-English games (bar Ditto and Talonflame), a whole 30 boxes to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 I would probably guess if it knows any moves that it shouldn't be capable of learning (i.e. Raikou learning Zap Cannon outside of the Gamestop event or something) or if it's not in the proper Poke Ball in the case of events. Maybe it has to do with some Shiny Pokes having high/perfect IVs that aren't event. Most of the stuff I tried to transfer over got through the filters; only that above Scizor (has Technician and competitive sets) and some Multiscale Lugia [in Dream Balls] never passed (hence why I was looking for the latter a while back). They all had legitimate movesets though, so can't explain why they never got into X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Does anyone have access to a HA Fennekin (or evolution)? Doesn't have to be anything special, since I can breed it myself from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Does anyone have access to a HA Fennekin (or evolution)? Doesn't have to be anything special, since I can breed it myself from there. I might be able to check and see if Black has one when he gets back from whatever he's doing. Someone else might have one and respond sooner, but if no one does I'll check with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 I'm in no hurry. I won't be home for a few hours yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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