For those that are interested in making Custom Cards for DevPro/YGOPro/etc

[cane_63106]

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[Sora1499]

Think I'll pass.

[cane_63106]

Think I'll pass.

So the title was interesting enough to get you to click on it, but what made you drop interest?

[Sora1499]

[quote name="cane_63106" post="6276225" timestamp="1379901189"]So the title was interesting enough to get you to click on it, but what made you drop interest?[/quote] I took a look at the site, it didn't appeal to me. It might've been cuz I looked it up on my mobile phone.

[cane_63106]

I took a look at the site, it didn't appeal to me. It might've been cuz I looked it up on my mobile phone.

you were wanting to get into scripting cards, but the look of the forum changed that? what were you expecting?

[AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW]

I poked around and looked at a few of the cards in there. I've ran across a ton of cards that are archetype-specific to custom archtypes, which really makes judging a lot harder to do a proper review of. I understand that the lot of you are simply afraid of the Advanced Clause, but there are some parts of it that really should exist. The cards that I came across in both of the Singles sections that weren't archetype-specific were either pretty suck or pretty damn broken.

 

I personally find this place pretty pointless when things such as DevPro and DP are known to YCM. At most, it's a haven for... how should I say it... inexperienced cardmakers that I would rather not get myself associated with, thank you very much. But I have to admit, there is an archetype I've been trying to get some attention drawn to, despite it practically ruling Duelportal. I'll post it in there just for the entertainment of your reactions. Then I'll probably leave.

 

Edit: Done. My boredom is awesome.

[cane_63106]

I poked around and looked at a few of the cards in there. I've ran across a ton of cards that are archetype-specific to custom archtypes, which really makes judging a lot harder to do a proper review of. I understand that the lot of you are simply afraid of the Advanced Clause , but there are some parts of it that really should exist. The cards that I came across in both of the Singles sections that weren't archetype-specific were either pretty suck or pretty damn broken.

 

I personally find this place pretty pointless when things such as DevPro and DP are known to YCM. At most, it's a haven for... how should I say it... inexperienced cardmakers that I would rather not get myself associated with, thank you very much. But I have to admit, there is an archetype I've been trying to get some attention drawn to, despite it practically ruling Duelportal. I'll post it in there just for the entertainment of your reactions. Then I'll probably leave.

Archetype-specific which makes it hard to judge? and somehow we're inexperienced cardmakers? that's what the site is for. people make their own cards and archetypes, just like people do here. i would've thought that this site, which is filled with people doing it, would transition well into wanting to program them into something like DevPro. I'm missing something. I have the D.D. Dragons and if you can tell me where those come off as inexperienced, i'd love to hear it. As of now, there have only been a couple archetypes added, but most others are being worked on. I usually try to help make someone's theme really work within itself. DevPro is known to many, but they aren't taking card requests of the people that play, to be added in and that's where this site comes in. People are always crying about originality and how they hate dueling the same top tier decks, so we're helping people play with their own creations against others and their's. Your whole post comes off arrogant as hell to a post trying to do the same thing this site is already doing, but allowing people to actually use the cards instead of just gawk at lists of them. "I understand that the lot of you are simply afraid of the Advanced Clause , but there are some parts of it that really should exist." What of the site makes you think that people are afraid of anything from this site?  We think of cards and we post them. Some can be OP for the hell of it, but those won't get put into the game. It's stated on the site. Though I've just started posting here, I've been using this site for a very long time and I've never seen any ground breaking creators extraordinaire in an abundance, just a bunch of people who enjoy this game and are pretty creative at times. Don't hide anything you're lacking in under arrogance, just ignore the thread and move on. No need to post your super-special-awesome archetype to be entertained by our wowings of them...you're pretty high up on your horse as it is buddy.

[Neochu-H]

so i'm looking at this site, so i guess this thing called "Mackpro" is a dueling system where you can put custom cards in?

[cane_63106]

so i'm looking at this site, so i guess this thing called "Mackpro" is a dueling system where you can put custom cards in?

the only difference between mackpro and devpro are the custom cards added by outlaw. every 'whatever'pro you find will all have the ygopro core, but just have different cards added. outlaw created the site so that people could use their custom cards in online duels and has also set a limit on cards to make, like no God Cards, auto wins and crap like that. People are joining thinking people will just script their cards, but it's really to help people learn and come up with cards, like they do here, but to keep them reasonable so they'll be added in once a person feels their archetype is complete

[Neochu-H]

well, maybe if my anti virus program thing doesn't decide to delete it if i download this, i'll try this scriptin cards stuff maybe

and i'l get the mackpro.

but if i do

 

i may only make one of my archetypes.

[cane_63106]

even if you don't post them onto the site to be added for everyone else, you can still get the experience to make whatever and just add them to the game you have and send your cards off to a friend so you can play them against the friend. people think they're cards are a certain way, but just looking at them isnt' enough to judge them by. i posted a card that someone said looked pointless, but now that they've played it, they say it should be deleted lol i'm just trying to spread the learning around to as many people as possible for more diverse gameplay

[AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW]

Archetype-specific which makes it hard to judge?

You would have to know the entire archetype in order to get the right idea of how it works. With all these hundred-bajillion threads out there of the same archetype, this would involve a lot of inconvenient clicking.

and somehow we're inexperienced cardmakers?

The few cards I saw either sucked or were OP, like I said. I doubt that there are really many cards out there that are both balanced and useful, but then again, I'm too lazy to look through every single thread there.

that's what the site is for. people make their own cards and archetypes, just like people do here. i would've thought that this site, which is filled with people doing it, would transition well into wanting to program them into something like DevPro.

For people who don't know how to program, programming is just pretty scary. And if you're making a forum that's pretty much the same thing as this, then why does it exist when you could do something like create a Programming Club here? It looks more like Outlaw really just wanted a place where he could have some power. Also, this site has plenty of people who can program, if we wanted to so badly, we could just make a status about it and they probably would answer.

I'm missing something. I have the D.D. Dragons and if you can tell me where those come off as inexperienced, i'd love to hear it.

If there's a single thread where they are all in. Otherwise, I could go look at one card, comment on something, and then somebody points out some card I never seen before and then I have to do it all over again. It would be a highly frustrating process.

As of now, there have only been a couple archetypes added, but most others are being worked on. I usually try to help make someone's theme really work within itself. DevPro is known to many, but they aren't taking card requests of the people that play, to be added in and that's where this site comes in.

Again, this could probably be done here.

People are always crying about originality and how they hate dueling the same top tier decks, so we're helping people play with their own creations against others and their's.

A lot of the RC people here are much more competent then what I've seen in there. Then again, I haven't seen much, but it's still unlikely that that site would outclass this in helping make the card decent.

Your whole post comes off arrogant as hell to a post trying to do the same thing this site is already doing, but allowing people to actually use the cards instead of just gawk at lists of them.

Eh, it still didn't need a forum for the entire thing. Especially when YCM is already a much more popular site. Again, just make some sort of club or something, or join one if one already exists.

"I understand that the lot of you are simply afraid of the Advanced Clause , but there are some parts of it that really should exist." What of the site makes you think that people are afraid of anything.

I've seen a ton of people who do not like the Advanced Clause to the point where they simply stopped posting in there.

We think of cards and we post them. Some can be OP for the hell of it, but those won't get put into the game. It's stated on the site. Though I've just started posting here, I've been using this site for a very long time and I've never seen any ground breaking creators extraordinaire in an abundance, just a bunch of people who enjoy this game and are pretty creative at times.

But how good are they? If you lot post weaker versions of Effect Veiler that have requirements and the rest of you say "Cool" and don't even offer anything helpful. Perhaps you don't think it should be changed. But when you make the Deck and it's not good against real Decks, you start to whine about those Decks being too strong. Then, to get around this, you end up with ultra-powerful inconsistent things designed just for the sake of steamrolling those Decks. This is where it becomes OP. Without knowing the game well enough to make things well-balanced, you will have a much more difficult time reaching a good level of power.

Don't hide anything you're lacking in under arrogance, just ignore the thread and move on. No need to post your super-special-awesome archetype to be entertained by our wowings of them...you're pretty high up on your horse as it is buddy.

It's really that I don't see much of a point of the site. It's just YCM, but as a separate site, it will receive much less attention. People flock over to YCM because it has a card maker which lets them play around and make cards. Granted, your site does the same thing, but it doesn't come with the actual tool for making cards the way most people want to see them. I'm still standing by my opinion that this could have been much better done if it was on a more popular site. The only advantage that I actually see this having over YCM is the lack of actually decent players who could make cards without being pretty weak or pretty overpowered.

 

Plus, the archetype isn't supposed to be just for bragging. It's more of me being able to actually know how good the commenting people are, should they actually have any useful input to post.

[Eury]

I'm like 99.9% sure this isn't even the right section. What would be the right section I don't know, but I'm pretty sure Devpro doesn't count as a video game.

[cane_63106]

 

You would have to know the entire archetype in order to get the right idea of how it works. With all these hundred-bajillion threads out there of the same archetype, this would involve a lot of inconvenient clicking.

 

 

-When I review cards, I usually ask them to basically post a whole archetype at a time, which I mostly see. People can script and post cards to be added to certain archetypes that are already out. Outlaw has done this with Ojamas and since most know how they work, one card at a time is ok because it’s easy to mentally gauge how they’ll fit in.

 

 

The few cards I saw either sucked or were OP, like I said. I doubt that there are really many cards out there that are both balanced and useful, but then again, I'm too lazy to look through every single thread there.

 

 

-I seriously can’t speak on how you feel about other people’s card if you’re not going to mention specific card because you have people who are very versed in this game and people who are beginning in both the game and wanting to script. Speak on anything I’ve made, then we can really get into where we both are coming from with the card(s). I have no problem with that, but you shouldn’t let other people’s ideas stop you from adding what you’d consider a good card(s) into the game as a whole. Also, this site is for any of the members to review and add their thoughts to how cards could be improved. Some people won’t budge, like me with D.D. God Dragon, because it’s meant to be a God Card that I’m not asking to be put into the game at all. I made it because I’ve been using it IRL for years, but you also have those that will eagerly listen to any ideas. There was a guy on the site I’ve been helping consistently and I put a lot of effort into helping him find his deck’s winning condition and base strategy. He’s gone, but things like that happen a lot on the site and we’re hoping to have more people helping people the same way.

 

 

For people who don't know how to program, programming is just pretty scary. And if you're making a forum that's pretty much the same thing as this, then why does it exist when you could do something like create a Programming Club here? It looks more like Outlaw really just wanted a place where he could have some power. Also, this site has plenty of people who can program, if we wanted to so badly, we could just make a status about it and they probably would answer.

 

 

-Power? If you think, then that’s between you two lol I know he’s trying to create a running  server for everyone to be able to play online, like you can on ygopro, because atm if you add your cards, you won’t be able to play anyone online with them outside of hamachi, I think. Even the ygopro has people all over the place creating card (original, custom and anime only) but the people who run the forums don’t add those cards. People have to sift through thread after thread to find something someone else has done, outside of a popular one that’s been stickied. It’s really bothersome to go through unzipping and unzipping. I know the programming part is scary, I went through that, but people just have to get passed that and try, but there’s no real way of expressing that to people. Some will want to bad enough, but others will join just to request and say to hell with the site and never come back, but that’s sifting out the people needed. If there are people here that can script then I’d like to have them join as well. I honestly don’t care where the people are centralized, it’s the idea of Custom Cards + actually being played in game that had me to go from just using the site to make custom cards to print them out to trying to spread the knowledge scripting. Outlaw’s a good guy and has helped me greatly with learning and getting cards made and from what I can tell wants the same, but when you have people who know more and control a particular thing, then you have their rules. His are a lot more free when it comes to the site, but strict when it comes to what will actually be added, which is fair.

 

 

If there's a single thread where they are all in. Otherwise, I could go look at one card, comment on something, and then somebody points out some card I never seen before and then I have to do it all over again. It would be a highly frustrating process.

 

 

-They were when I joined the site, but as I made them, I took them off. No one questioned them to the point of saying they were OP as a whole, but were excited to playtest them. I’ve been modding these for years, so I know they’re balanced as a whole. I know where they’ll excel and lose, which is the reason I review so many others. I know what I’m doing. Like I said earlier though, people usually post a whole archetype in one thread, so you’d rarely have to go clicking crazy to review anything.

 

 

Again, this could probably be done here.

 

 

-It doesn’t matter exactly where, but since outlaw is pretty much the only person I know that’s up for adding others’ works into his releases, this is the best place.

 

 

A lot of the RC people here are much more competent then what I've seen in there. Then again, I haven't seen much, but it's still unlikely that that site would outclass this in helping make the card decent.

 

 

-I’ve been on this site for years and I really don’t see the ‘competence’ you’re speaking of. There’s a great deal of arrogance, but not really critiques about what can push an idea to its best potential, which is why I‘ve not posted until now. This place is months new and of course we’ll have lv’s of experience all over the place. I don’t have examples of reviews you’ve seen, I can’t speak on it either way. I’m always up for taking criticism though.

 

 

Eh, it still didn't need a forum for the entire thing. Especially when YCM is already a much more popular site. Again, just make some sort of club or something, or join one if one already exists.

 

 

-You’re right. It’s been out for years and is popular as hell…so where’s the sections of people scripting? People have not done much beyond using the card creator and moving on. This idea was started, as far as I know, from the ygopro forums and have been branching out since. I’m just trying to comfortably invite people to learn something, I know they’re gonna love if they just put a bit of time into learning. The tutorials are linked to other sites and examples will be linked from other places as well. I’m not trying to help pigeon hold anything, it’s just that this is the most open forum for it that I’ve come across.

 

 

I've seen a ton of people who do not like the Advanced Clause to the point where they simply stopped posting in there.

 

 

-So it was just an assumption?

 

 

But how good are they? If you lot post weaker versions of Effect Veiler that have requirements and the rest of you say "Cool" and don't even offer anything helpful. Perhaps you don't think it should be changed. But when you make the Deck and it's not good against real Decks, you start to whine about those Decks being too strong. Then, to get around this, you end up with ultra-powerful inconsistent things designed just for the sake of steamrolling those Decks. This is where it becomes OP. Without knowing the game well enough to make things well-balanced, you will have a much more difficult time reaching a good level of power.

 

 

-Once again, you’re assuming. I’ll speak on myself. I’d call out an effect that’s only a weaker version of another card, if it bugs me enough. Some people you can’t talk out of making crap lol, even on here and you could agree, but when I review something I look at the whole theme, strengths and weaknesses. I’ve not seen anyone make a card or type to counter anything. That’s just a crappy duelist anyway. I’ve seen people beg for reviews, so I don’t think they’re too quick to be hardheaded toward ideas to change up a bit. I’d hope that people feel they’re ideas only get better here, especially with my help. You’re also assuming lack of knowledge, skill of the people on the site. Like here, it’s mixed. You can kind of tell who’s been playing and know what they’re doing as oppose to people crazy about making a new Raigeki. I actually like the idea of least 1 Boss Monster per archetype. I’ve always loved the Trump Card idea. Another person may, not, but it’d be up to the person who’s getting their archetype reviewed to take everything in. I always try to encourage a deck strong enough not to need in-game cards, but I know that people will use them regardless. There’s also a banlist with each release. Some cards can come out banned but still be in the game because the person who made them wants to use them or knows people who wouldn’t mind them using it. Their cards; why not?

 

 

It's really that I don't see much of a point of the site. It's just YCM, but as a separate site, it will receive much less attention. People flock over to YCM because it has a card maker which lets them play around and make cards. Granted, your site does the same thing, but it doesn't come with the actual tool for making cards the way most people want to see them. I'm still standing by my opinion that this could have been much better done if it was on a more popular site. The only advantage that I actually see this having over YCM is the lack of actually decent players who could make cards without being pretty weak or pretty overpowered.

 

Plus, the archetype isn't supposed to be just for bragging. It's more of me being able to actually know how good the commenting people are, should they actually have any useful input to post.

 

 

-Once again, it just started…hell, it might become a ghost town in a week. That’s not the point of it. Outlaw is actually working on a script maker for it. He’s already come out with a card manager/creator/packer. Him using this skills in programming, for free as well, has really impressed me which is why I’m pushing for the site’s exposure. You keep talking as though YCM is the pinnacle of card makers, why? So you want to post your deck to read if someone is good enough to review? If someone punches a whole in your entire view of your deck and says it’s crap and points out its weaknesses, will that be a positive or negative thing to you? Do you think that your knowledge is so far beyond any possible member who is on or will come to the site? This site, like all others will have sifting to do, but it’s just started so to expect the Prime Source for the Almighty deck builders isn’t a fair expectation at this point. There’s no competition between these and I don’t know why you keep comparing. Each have members who’ve joined for what the site can do. If YCM comes up with a scripting program for YGOPro that incorporates their cardmaker, then there wouldn’t be a point for most sites, but that doesn’t negate their validity.

[Tormented]

Please before you even consider advertising a site onto a completely different site, get to know people first and become a valued member of said community. Otherwise It just looks like your reasoning for joining YCM was just so you could get people to join your ugly site, and yes it looks disgusting. Otherwise people will judge with first look and I can tell you that first look is not a good one. 

 

Go advertise elsewhere.

[Cin]

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