Flame Dragon Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 First of all, fighting ability is arbitrary. I'm talking about the actual quality of the character. It seems like they wrote themselves into a corner because there was only 1 season planned and had to regress Korra's development. The problem is, she's gotten significantly less mature to the point of bitching off to authority figures with no justification. She's PMS'ing for the entirety of the first 3 episodes. I like pretty much all of the other characters better at this point. Except Asami. She's still a mary sue. Agreed. It wasn't until like half way into episode 3 that I really started to feel for her. Thats a problem. She wasn't this bad in Season 1, so what the hell. To be fair to Asami, she has had all of one scene so far. I don't think she'll get better, but they haven't done anything with the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 First of all, fighting ability is arbitrary. I'm talking about the actual quality of the character. It seems like they wrote themselves into a corner because there was only 1 season planned and had to regress Korra's development. The problem is, she's gotten significantly less mature to the point of bitching off to authority figures with no justification. She's PMS'ing for the entirety of the first 3 episodes. I like pretty much all of the other characters better at this point. Except Asami. She's still a mary sue. To be fair, being much more stubborn than season 1 is because it's much more personal for Korra. She's never been one to obey authority, which is why she doesn't enjoy minding Tenzen. She was against her father because he held back a pretty significant secret from her. Unalaq was there for her and said what she has wanted to hear, that's why she's been siding with him until recently. So far, you guys are a little harsh on the characters. You're not being very understanding and y'all have a very stern opinion as to what is and is not what a good person should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 To be fair, being much more stubborn than season 1 is because it's much more personal for Korra. She's never been one to obey authority, which is why she doesn't enjoy minding Tenzen. She was against her father because he held back a pretty significant secret from her. Unalaq was there for her and said what she has wanted to hear, that's why she's been siding with him until recently. So far, you guys are a little harsh on the characters. You're not being very understanding and y'all have a very stern opinion as to what is and is not what a good person should be. When Mako is talking to her father and he is asking to keep her safe she snaps at him for doing that. I get being pissed at her dad, but that is uncalled for. Hell, they keep making jokes about how Mako isn't sure what to say since he has no idea how she is going to react. Only, it really isn't funny and just makes you dislike Korra for acting like an ass. And yes, she has a problem obeying authority, but it comes (seemingly) from her belief that she knows best. That isn't an admirable character trait. Not to mention that, as said before, her character growth from the past season seems to have just washed away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 When Mako is talking to her father and he is asking to keep her safe she snaps at him for doing that. I get being pissed at her dad, but that is uncalled for. Hell, they keep making jokes about how Mako isn't sure what to say since he has no idea how she is going to react. Only, it really isn't funny and just makes you dislike Korra for acting like an ass. Just like a real girl, she has emotions and often times, small things can spark those emotions. And yes, she has a problem obeying authority, but it comes (seemingly) from her belief that she knows best. That isn't an admirable character trait. Not to mention that, as said before, her character growth from the past season seems to have just washed away. I don't think that she believes she knows best, I think she just wants to hurry up and become the avatar and gets frustrated when she's being held back and being told that she isn't good enough yet. though it's true she lacks many aspects for being a great avatar, it's still reasonable for her to get angry when she feels she's being held back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 It might be because I've seen stuff like Zero no Tsukaima where the female protagonist is really bad in comparison, but I don't think Korra's doing that badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 But that's just it. TLA was nothing short of sheer brilliance, a masterpiece. I'm going to hold the series to extremely high standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Just like a real girl, she has emotions and often times, small things can spark those emotions.I definitely agree it's realistic.It's just not at all interesting or entertaining.Re: Asami -I disagree that she's a Mary Sue. She has traits of a Mary Sue (she's beautiful and filthy rich) but I disagree that she is one. She's not like... beloved by everyone (that's Korra) and she doesn't get things just handed to her (that's Korra). She had to make hard decisions (choosing to betray her father in the factory underneath the Sato Estate) and paid the price for them (Future Industries is pretty much over if the deal with Varrick doesn't go through). And to top it all off her boyfriend dumped her for a prettier girl.But Asami didn't just wallow in self pity until the universe handed her The Avatar State or let her magically master airbending when she needed it most. she took Future Industries and did her best to correct it. She rushed to the South Pole to meet with Varrick. She felt like a physical character who actually did lose something (her father, her company, her fortune, her boyfriend) and she's working hard to salvage it and move along.Korra's worst trouble was just "I can't bend", and then 4 minutes later she can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted September 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Sure, and she does get credit for that, but that's almost why I don't like the character. She's too perfect. Rich, good looking, and has unwavering resolve. I kind of which she had turned out to be an evil psychopath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 So... episode 4 came out.I kinda liked it a little bit, though obvious plot twists were obvious. The judge turning it into exposition theater was kinda dumb, and Bolin's subplot is getting kinda lame and dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 I actually thought this was the strongest of the episodes we've gotten so far. The extremes Korra was willing to go too before knowing the whole truth bugged me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Episode 4 is definitely my favorite of this season so far. Also, Bolin's substory is great, now we've got a full-on yandere in the mix. And I'd say Korra's actions were fine, since she knew they would lead her to the whole truth. It's not like she was really going to kill the guy (maybe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Okay, that episode was great. The comedy bits were really funny (including that ending XD) and they really did a great job in making me want to f*cking clobber the bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well I would have killed the guy. Also, that rich guy is best character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Varrick is the best character ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Verrick is easily the best new character of Legend of Korra. He's also the least realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Robot Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Episode was great. The quiet moments are what made it great though. Like Tenzin’s pretend tea party with Ikki was touching. Both father and daughter sought solitude away from their respective brothers and sisters, only to discover how desperately they all needed each other. The picture of Aang and his family was heartwarming, and these small character-building moments are what made TLA amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Blueberry Spice-Head is absolutely precious, same with the other baby bisons. Varrick is hilarious, "Why do you think I built this boat?" And that was a fun moment with Tenzin and Ikki. I'm gonna keep looking forward to Aang's kids being expanded upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3sTR Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Things getting hotter episode by episode. They are doing a great job to maintain this cartoon. Maximum stabilization, minimum corruption on lore. Spirit side of the cartoon is also awesome. Getting excited now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 This past episode was actually pretty good. Possibly because it had less to do with Korra, I don't know.Mako's stuff with the police force was interesting and really fleshed out his character. I however HATED how dismissive he was of his brother. Mako and Bolin used to be BFFs, two peas in a pod, etcetera etcetera. But now Bolin's like: "Hey guys! What should I do?" and Mako's just like: "IDGAF."The more I see of Varrick the more convinced I am he's a villain. It's blatantly obvious he's war profiteering. He eagerly agreed to do business with a company that made weapons and tanks. He was a central figure at the meeting in Korra's house in the South Pole. He's planning on making propoganda films to rally support. He pretty much spells out his plan when he's hanging upside down. "If you can't make money in a war, you CAN'T make money."I just hope that he's just... taking advantage of a bad situation, as opposed to actually causing it. Like... his men did plan to kill Unalok on his orders, he paid the firebenders to make it look like the Northern Tribe blew up the Cultural Center. I'd hate it if they went that route, because he's the only new character I really like from season 2. He just seems to love what he does. It's refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 I agree with Pika. Also, Korra is still PMS'ing I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Based how what we've been shown of Varrick I don't think he would be a villian. The trigger for the bombs might trace back to his company, so idk. And yea, it goes without saying that any time Korra isn't talking the show gets so much better. I now want to know, why is this. I mean, they have to know how unlikeable they are making Korra out to be, so what are they doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 I don't see why everyone is complaining so much about Korra being "unlikable". Sure I can get annoyed when she begins to belittle and yell at everyone, Makko included, but I can also understand why she is being so hot headed. Let's remember that Korra was and has always been Aang's complete opposite. While Aang would sit, meditate, and think of a peaceful solution to the problem at hand Korra is meant to be hot headed. As such she is more prone to "leaping before looking" and as we all know when you do that the results are more often than not something bad. She is still learning, which Season One I honestly believe was now just to introduce everyone to the characters, and throughout the series she'll learn that she can't always be hot headed and make rash decisions; I think this will begin when we see Wang. But to get back to the point, I understand why she is yelling at everyone and thinking that they're all against her. I mean, wouldn't you be upset if your home and family were being attacked and no one was willing to help? You have a good reason why people should be coming to your aid but the only response you get is, "It's none of our business. Settle it yourselves." So Korra is just trying to get help and becoming frustrated whenever something prevents her from getting the help she wants, so what? That's just how she is, she isn't completely thinking and is thinking more about getting help to her family at the South. Also, if they DO get the Fire Nation to aid them I SWEAR TO GOD I will die laughing if they do the ". . . and then the fire nation attacked" again (XD) On the note of the Fire Nation, did anyone else get excited when General Zuko mentioned his "grandfather"; and by grandfather we all know he means Fire Lord Zuko the First! Zuko is coming back people!!!! . . . . I however HATED how dismissive he was of his brother. Mako and Bolin used to be BFFs, two peas in a pod, etcetera etcetera. But now Bolin's like: "Hey guys! What should I do?" and Mako's just like: "IDGAF." That wasn't something that bothered me until you brought it up. Why is Mako being so dismissive of his brother now? I just hope that [Varrick] he's just... taking advantage of a bad situation, as opposed to actually causing it. Like... his men did plan to kill Unalok on his orders, he paid the firebenders to make it look like the Northern Tribe blew up the Cultural Center. I'd hate it if they went that route, because he's the only new character I really like from season 2. He just seems to love what he does. It's refreshing. You know, based off of how he's been acting and what I'm getting from him I think he's just trying to take advantage of a bad situation. However, if it does turn out that he's been the bad guy and has been tricking everyone I will be completely surprised. And I do like the guy. He is completely eccentric, which most famous entrepreneurs were known to be; take Nicola Tesla, he got nausica from shiny things and forced people to shake his hands four times. [hr] A few more things I tend to notice. 1.) DAT MOTHERF*CKING BRUCE LEE PICTURE!!! 2.) I had almost forgotten about the "dark spirits" until the giant leviathan/kraken one came and abducted Korra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Robot Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 And yea, it goes without saying that any time Korra isn't talking the show gets so much better. I now want to know, why is this. I mean, they have to know how unlikeable they are making Korra out to be, so what are they doing. They're trying to show how different Korra and Aang is but how they execute it is the problem. Aang -soft, level head and hates the fact that he's the Avatar, while Korra-hot head, my way or the highway attitude, unlady-like, loves the fact that she's the Avatar. Plus, they're probably setting the early stage for Korra's hero journey arc, Aang had his. And ending Mako/Korra relationship without even fleshing it out first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 They're trying to show how different Korra and Aang is but how they execute it is the problem. Aang -soft, level head and hates the fact that he's the Avatar, while Korra-hot head, my way or the highway attitude, unlady-like, loves the fact that she's the Avatar. Plus, they're probably setting the early stage for Korra's hero journey arc, Aang had his. And ending Mako/Korra relationship without even fleshing it out first? They can do that without making her unlikeable. She was ok back in the first season but she has been unbearable thoughout this season. They went backwards with her character and have made all of her anger and bullheadedness incredibly unreasonable. This alone makes things even worse. However, even if she did start like this, that still isn't good. You want your characters to be likeable and to have the view care about them. Them exploding every 5 minutes, and acting like an ass towards everyone around them does not do that. They wrote themselves into a corner because they didn't know they were going to get a second season. Clearly they are just trying to create drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Robot Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 They can do that without making her unlikeable. She was ok back in the first season but she has been unbearable thoughout this season. They went backwards with her character and have made all of her anger and bullheadedness incredibly unreasonable. This alone makes things even worse. However, even if she did start like this, that still isn't good. You want your characters to be likeable and to have the view care about them. Them exploding every 5 minutes, and acting like an ass towards everyone around them does not do that. They wrote themselves into a corner because they didn't know they were going to get a second season. Clearly they are just trying to create drama. That's pretty much why I say that their execution is the problem. We get it, she defeat Amon and now she thinks she's the best in the world but damn, writers just turned her into a HBIC. Then again, I watch shows like Homeland, Breaking Bad, The Wire and read comics like Sandman (vertigo), Transmepolitan, Hellblazer and Planetary so I'm probably used to unlikable/asshole protagonist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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