Darj Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Monsters: x3 Machina Gearframe x3 Dekoichi x3 Meklord Army Wisel x3 Black Salvo x3 Tinplate Goldfish x1 Saizan (target for Burei, and gives me access to Synchro 8s, such as Crimson Blader) x3 Machina Fortress x1 Machina Force x1 Dark Armed Dragon Spells: x2 MST x1 Heavy Storm x1 Dark Hole x1 Reborn x1 Limtier Removal Traps: x3 Chaos Infinity x2 Compulsory x2 Fiendish Chain x2 Mirror Force x2 Bottomless x1 Solemn Judgment x1 Warning Extra Deck: x2 Burei x1 Black Rose x1 Power Tool Mecha Dragon x1 Crimson Blader x1 Scrap Dragon x1 Stardust Dragon x2 Geargigant x1 Abyss Dweller x1 Gagaga Gunman x1 Maestroke x1 Crazy Box x1 Dracosack x1 Big Eye Side: x2 Fusilier (more EEV targets in case I need it, and can make Rank 7s along Fortress and Level 7 Synchros) x2 Duradark (to counter DARK decks while increasing the number of Salvo targets in the deck) x1 MST x2 EEV x2 Imperial Iron Wall x2 Mind Drain (against Elemental Dragons) x2 Rivalry x1 Devastation Virus x1 Starlight Road I am posting this because I have barely dueled since E-Dragons showed up in DN, and I want to optimize this deck (mainly the side deck) to at least give it the chance of fighting against the top tiers. Any changes I should do? I have read suggestions for other decks that recommend x3 Compulsories and Breakthrough Skills; should I be running those cards as well? I find Fiendish Chain more appealing because of the attack prevention, but if Breakthrough is a need this format, I am willing to swap the Chains for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Cannon over force, also 3 fortress been good because mostly you use 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 I prefer Machina Force because, unlike Cannon, it is not affected by Devastation Virus, although the Trap rarely shows up nowadays. I realize I could Summon Cannon as an emergency wall, but discarding a card for a 2200 DEF wall will rarely save me. I ran 2 Fortress/2 Cannons for a while and that combination sometimes led me to bad hands (draw the 2 Cannons early game and got Gearframes/Fortresses when it was too late), so I am sticking with 3 Fortress. I was thinking in running +1 a Force and maybe +1 Saizan for a second Burei target but I don't know what to drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 But cannon can actually be summoned unlike force which doesnt do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 True, but I would have no use for it because I cannot do anything with a Level 8 on the field. If I were running other Level 8s or Tuners with lower levels then I would run Cannon, but that's not the case for this deck. Hmm... now that I think about it, I guess I could use Cannon and Salvo to Summon Star Eater, but I don't know if it would be worth it since the combo would be slightly situational and I don't know what to drop for Star Eater. I will give it a try anyways because, albeit situational, I could use the Cannon discard for setting a Salvo target up early game, and then Normal Summon the Salvo. So: -1 Force +1 Cannon +1 Star Eater -1 Burei? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 What's the point of Power Tool Mecha Dragon? You could take that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Well, it can kill Catastor by battle (something that Burei or any other available Synchro 7 cannot do), and I can equip a lone Gearframe to it and draw a card, but that's about it. I know facing a Catastor is unusual but I would hate to be completely walled by it if I don't have Traps/Dark Armed on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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