Legend Zero Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I don't know. I find TCG to be just a tad bit worse the Showcase when I started. You got/get lashed at for being bad, in an attempt to make you try to get better. (Though I haven't frequented TCG for a while and don't know the specifics of Zazu's case). Did I ever have the idea to create another account? No. Did it make me want to get better to feel accepted? Sure.Did TCG have something to do with it? Probably. Is it their responsibility for nurturing somebody? Questionable.Even during the worst of TCG I don't think this ever happened. (for reference I'm talking about the neg wars against new members) idk, I just think that an individual's choices should not be fully blamed on others.Did he deserve the ban? Arguably.Wrong. You break the rules you get the ban. The internet has no plea insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I can certainly respect the commitment that zazu had towards that other persona. And now I'v got a much better idea of just how he thinks of me based on how he acted towards me yesterday while being .codex. Which would be of basically "I dont care about you". Which I'v got no problem with. You wanna hate me? Hate me. You wanna love me? Love me. It doesn't matter to me. As for the ban, it was necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I feel my "Arguably" was put across maybe in the wrong light. I was stating that he did deserve the ban however certain aspects of how he handled things may have been different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 What's this about another alt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Dark Astral. Not even 24 hours and he's already trying to Alt again. Course, Norman was on the ball at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Did he at least try to ram hmself to death? Because that would be entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Did he at least try to ram hmself to death? Because that would be entertaining. Didn't even get a chance to do so, as Koko banned that alt, or so I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I was wondering who that random Dark Astral guy was, I wasn't online at the time that alt was around, and I figured that I didn't miss out on much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I think what we can dub as Card Maker Psychosis (CMP) is hilarious, especially when people completely go too far and get banned for it. Joke's on all of you! I'm already crazy! ...Which is probably why people don't comment on my cards... Anyways, I'm sad to say I never really got to know him, but it does baffle me why someone would make an alt just to get all mean at people. If I dislike someone, I let them know TO THEIR FACE!!! Luckily, the only person I ever hated on this site is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I am at an inpass in this situation. I genuinely liked Zazu. He was surprisingly helpful to me on a variety of occasions. On the other hand, I hated .codex from the start. From the first time I saw a post by him I thought "This guy is a pedantic d-bag". Finding out they were the same person... Kinda shattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Evilfusion is easily the realest to ever mod YCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 "So now the YCM world bids farewell to a member with an awesome Zubat reference. He was annoying, persistent, and left confusion in his wake, but had such potential, like how a blue bat could become a four-winged menace with enough love and care...but everyone wants to kill them." You win, evilfusion. You win. But the whole ".codex is zazu's alt" thing got me thinking... could Zazu have made the alt to distract the populace and clear his name as "annoyingly flame-buoyant"? That's some illusionist sh*t right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shin~ Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 It is sad for me to learn of this. Not because of Zazu in particularly, but because this is another prove of this site.... "daying" I guess. As I see it, people here are either content (whom I hope that they already understand what I'm about to say) with the site, or discontent and are trying to make it more "live". Members that are discontent would end up going bananas or just leave. Making the site "live" is viewed in a... inexperienced way (which leads to what I said above). What I mean is that people think that the site and/or the members are the problem, while it is themselves. They do not understand that the site is just a tool and that the member are just other users' of said tool. We are doing the same thing, It does not matter in what way we do it, if it results in something or not, or if its results are bad or good. We are doing it, therefore it is alive. If this is the atmosphere around here numbers would not matter and will grow (hopefully). ^This is a golden plate for jokes (I had to say this, I'm a fun hunter by nature) Lastly, when it comes to people you do not "change", you "teach". I'm not a "leader" and nor will I ever be, so I don't "teach", but I try to keep members here as long as possible, and hope that they might understand in a way or another. .....Perhaps this only applys to the YGO related stuff, after all I know almost nothing about other stuff on this site and not that good at YGOto begin with... Anyways, this is my view of things and is not directed at anybody/thing, I just though this was a good chance to say this. ('~')... This ended up being both off topic & about myself.... sorry?.... So, Zazu.... He did not understand, and we did not help him do so... I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'm gonna go ahead and disagree. Generally, when people say, "he was being an idiot so he deserved punishment," it's a thinly veiled attempt to stroke one's internet dick. The rule banning alts is justified, but I'm not sure I like the cold attitude and totalitarian approach to governing. But let me just clear this up, was he banned because he was being disruptive, or banned based solely because he had been using two accounts? And had he been using both accounts or did he just make the one to troll? I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyng's Old Account Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I think he was banned because he was disruptive which met punishment, but because he used multiple accounts to worm around the punishment this lead to him being banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 That's fairly reasonable, I was just worried that the reason was only that he made a second account as a joke or something. On another note I almost feel like we should have a year~ long exile instead of a permaban. This is the internet, a year is practically a life sentence anyway. I know most people probably disagree but whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I don't encourage banning at all except in very rare cases like SD Dueler. That being said, I still think the way evilfusion clarified everything was classy given how YCM's had some awful mods like Hunter who would shamelessly go about mass-purging active members who they or their friends didn't like without feeling any obligation to explain why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therrion Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 He actually just said he did it for fun, did things to keep the illusion up and make it seem real (like him replying to his own questions) and that when he did the whole "Truth" thing, he thought he'd be warned to stop prior to the quick trigger ban. However, he also said that he didn't mind and he is just settling in on the Dueling Network Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 So...this is thread having to address the idiocy of this one user, was mandatory, thus increasing his awareness and somehow your ego? Pretty much I didn't know much about Zazubat, but I had my suspicions and pretty much people are battering a dead horse soon after his ban. He seemed like a nice guy though, but for one to be dragged to this level because of criticism, is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Welp, I think I've let the info train run long enough. Nothing further to add.Lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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