Fusion X. Denver Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 The only enemies I can think of for Godzilla off the top of my head are Cloverfield and either the Jaegers/Kaijus from Pacific Rim. But I feel like Godzilla would easily decimate all of them, so they're not worthy of a Death Battle level of debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 I'm surprised by no 007 vs Solid Snake really. I'm a fan of both Loz and FF7. The Link vs Cloud was utter BS. Want them both at full power? Give Link Fierce Deity Mask and Cloud access to all of his materia. Watch how fast Link gets dropped dead by Bahamut ZERO and Knights of the Round. Not like instant Death isn't a magic materia either. As for Superman vs Goku. I will complain Superman went down too easily from kryptonite and that he was upping his skill level much faster than he has others. I do believe the fight was fair game though. It's the hero who seeks to surpass his limits vs the hero who has none. It's like putting Deadpool vs Isshin Kurosaki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I'm surprised by no 007 vs Solid Snake really. That would be a terrible matchup. Snake outclasses him in all but smoothtalking. I'm a fan of both Loz and FF7. The Link vs Cloud was utter BS. Want them both at full power? Give Link Fierce Deity Mask and Cloud access to all of his materia. Watch how fast Link gets dropped dead by Bahamut ZERO and Knights of the Round. Not like instant Death isn't a magic materia either. Depending on sources and scaling, the Fierce Diety is vastly more powerful than any summon except Eden from VIII, whose destructive power appears galactic. Then again, this really doesn't make any sense given that enemies can survive it. So the power of summons is dubious as well. Normal Link has no chance against any Cloud except pre-Mako/wheelchair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I am a huge fan of Death Battle but sometimes I wish Boomstick would shut the hell up for a bit. He pipes in with annoying quips every 5 seconds and it plain bugs me. Favorite battle so far was Robocop vs Terminator mostly because it was 3D :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I'm surprised by no 007 vs Solid Snake really. That would be a terrible matchup. Snake outclasses him in all but smoothtalking. I'm a fan of both Loz and FF7. The Link vs Cloud was utter BS. Want them both at full power? Give Link Fierce Deity Mask and Cloud access to all of his materia. Watch how fast Link gets dropped dead by Bahamut ZERO and Knights of the Round. Not like instant Death isn't a magic materia either. Depending on sources and scaling, the Fierce Diety is vastly more powerful than any summon except Eden from VIII, whose destructive power appears galactic. Then again, this really doesn't make any sense given that enemies can survive it. So the power of summons is dubious as well. Normal Link has no chance against any Cloud except pre-Mako/wheelchair. It would still be interesting D: As for Fierce Deity. It has that much power? More than Knights of the Round as well? o.0 How much more does Eden deal than Knights of the Round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 It would still be interesting D: As for Fierce Deity. It has that much power? More than Knights of the Round as well? o.0 How much more does Eden deal than Knights of the Round? Considering the Fierce Diety mops the floor with Majora, who's capable of casually destroying the world and killing everyone... Yeah. As for Knights of the Round, there's no way to tell how powerful they actually are. This is Eden's animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZbfDMzynwg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Didn't Eden break the 9999 Limit in FF8? Actually one of the first things ever to break 9999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 but does it deal more than 129,987? As for Majora. Sephiroth could destroy the planet. I would count the Weapons but they protect the planet. Having them target the planet is like having a hippy tear down a forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 but does it deal more than 129,987? As for Majora. Sephiroth could destroy the planet. I would count the Weapons but they protect the planet. Having them target the planet is like having a hippy tear down a forest. Yes, Sephiroth could destroy a planet. Cloud cannot. Also, stop using ingame damage to justify strength, becuase Vincent would be towering over everything at something like 2 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Yes, Sephiroth could destroy a planet. Cloud cannot. We don't know that yet. He is a failed Sephiroth clone after all. He has the power to take Sephiroth on his own as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 No, he doesn't. The only reason Sephiroth loses is because of some sort of pride or mental failing when it comes to Cloud. He is clearly far above everyone else in Crisis Core, Final Fantasy VII, and Advent Children, he just wants to see him suffer more, or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 No, he doesn't. The only reason Sephiroth loses is because of some sort of pride or mental failing when it comes to Cloud. He is clearly far above everyone else in Crisis Core, Final Fantasy VII, and Advent Children, he just wants to see him suffer more, or something. How do we know he is stronger than Cloud in FF7? As for Advent Children. Cloud beat him in that as well. Only Crisis Core was a BS way of losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Just because a hero beats a villain does not mean he is necessarily stronger than that villain, and especially does not mean he is capable of everything that villain can do Just in case you didn't know, Sephiroth can also use all forms of Materia freely, as he is part of the Lifestream, so if he really wanted to win, he could have opened with Death or Toad, or something. Not to mention his telekinesis and intangibility... Sephiroth destroying planets comes from Meteor and Supernova, Cloud has nothing similar to those things. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMd5zNUq4e4[/media] @6:10 it is made very clear that Sephiroth is toying with Cloud, could have easilly killed him, and that he really only cares about tearing him down emotionally. Cloud won't be taking on the Fierce Diety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Just because a hero beats a villain does not mean he is necessarily stronger than that villain, and especially does not mean he is capable of everything that villain can do Just in case you didn't know, Sephiroth can also use all forms of Materia freely, as he is part of the Lifestream, so if he really wanted to win, he could have opened with Death or Toad, or something. Not to mention his telekinesis and intangibility... Sephiroth destroying planets comes from Meteor and Supernova, Cloud has nothing similar to those things. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMd5zNUq4e4[/media] @6:10 it is made very clear that Sephiroth is toying with Cloud, could have easilly killed him, and that he really only cares about tearing him down emotionally. Cloud won't be taking on the Fierce Diety. Intangebility only worked pre-revival. Telekenisis? You mean Cloud's mental break down? He was only slightly controlled by Sephiroth because of the destruction towards his mind which is now avoidable. You want to talk about status inflictions? Majority players that play the game well know to equip Ribbon. Supernova can't kill you and meteor is never actually used damage wise. Cloud can and would stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Telekenisis? You mean Cloud's mental break down? He was only slightly controlled by Sephiroth because of the destruction towards his mind which is now avoidable. I mean Sephiroth throwing that huge building at Cloud creating a storm cloud, and in the original, holding back the power of Holy while fighting the party 6 on 1 You want to talk about status inflictions? Majority players that play the game well know to equip Ribbon. I don't see a ribbon on him. The reason status afflictions aren't used is for the sake of plot, and even then, in games like IV and IX, petrification is shown to be a true danger if you don't have anyone to get you out of it with a Soft or Esuna Supernova can't kill you and meteor is never actually used damage wise. Cloud can and would stand a chance. Game mechanics, and the only reason Meteor didn't kill everyone is because of Aeris. Even in AC, as you've just seen, Aeris and Zack were assisting Cloud. One on one, he has never shown to be anywhere near Sephiroth's level, nowhere near a planetary threat, and certainly nowhere near Majora's level of magical danger, who I may remind you, the Fierce Deity treated like a paper plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ＳＯＮ ＧＯＫＵ Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 It would still be interesting D: As for Fierce Deity. It has that much power? More than Knights of the Round as well? o.0 How much more does Eden deal than Knights of the Round? Fierce Deity is an ANGRY GOD. And you know, when gods get angry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 And you know, when gods get angry... They get killed by Spawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Telekenisis? You mean Cloud's mental break down? He was only slightly controlled by Sephiroth because of the destruction towards his mind which is now avoidable. I mean Sephiroth throwing that huge building at Cloud creating a storm cloud, and in the original, holding back the power of Holy while fighting the party 6 on 1 You want to talk about status inflictions? Majority players that play the game well know to equip Ribbon. I don't see a ribbon on him. The reason status afflictions aren't used is for the sake of plot, and even then, in games like IV and IX, petrification is shown to be a true danger if you don't have anyone to get you out of it with a Soft or Esuna Supernova can't kill you and meteor is never actually used damage wise. Cloud can and would stand a chance. Game mechanics, and the only reason Meteor didn't kill everyone is because of Aeris. Even in AC, as you've just seen, Aeris and Zack were assisting Cloud. One on one, he has never shown to be anywhere near Sephiroth's level, nowhere near a planetary threat, and certainly nowhere near Majora's level of magical danger, who I may remind you, the Fierce Deity treated like a paper plate. Except Aeris and Zack didn;t assist in the fight. They only gave a morale boost. Game mechanics is your defense? Lol. Supernova still fails to kill. You don't see a ribbon on him? Watch Advent Children sometime. Fighting 1 vs 6? Oh, you mean the optional 1 vs 6. You can fight him with a team of three alone and win with incredible ease. As for Sephiroth being able to use materia. Keep in mind materia is crystalized mako that contains the power of the Ancients. Being stuck in lifestream doesn't give a power boost. Cloud and Tifa proved that. I like how you're arguing the whole Majora got beaten by Fierce Deity with ease then go on to be a hypocrite and say "Just because a hero beats a villain does not mean he is necessarily stronger than that villain, and especially does not mean he is capable of everything that villain can do" which is fucking ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Except Aeris and Zack didn;t assist in the fight. They only gave a morale boost. If you go back to when Cloud was fighting Bahamut SIN, Aeris' energy was pretty much shown to be how he pushed through Megaflare, probably the same case here, and even if it was true, if Sephiroth was fighting explicitly to kill Cloud instead of tourture him, he would have been cut in half after he was impaled and helpless. Game mechanics is your defense? Lol. Supernova still fails to kill. You don't see a ribbon on him? Watch Advent Children sometime. Fighting 1 vs 6? Oh, you mean the optional 1 vs 6. You can fight him with a team of three alone and win with incredible ease. Yeah, you know you can fight Majora without the Fierce Deity Mask and win too, that doesn't change the fact that in canon, and according to the story, Link used the Fierce Deity Mask. As for Sephiroth being able to use materia. Keep in mind materia is crystalized mako that contains the power of the Ancients. Being stuck in lifestream doesn't give a power boost. Cloud and Tifa proved that. True, except Tetsuya Nomura stated that Sephiroth got much stronger and gained control of all Materia. What happened to Cloud and Tifa is irrelevant. I like how you're arguing the whole Majora got beaten by Fierce Deity with ease then go on to be a hypocrite and say "Just because a hero beats a villain does not mean he is necessarily stronger than that villain, and especially does not mean he is capable of everything that villain can do" which is f***ing ironic. I never said the Fierce Deity could do everything (i.e. extinction events, polymorphing) that Majora can. The difference here is that while Cloud battled hard against Sephiroth and was visibly exhausted, the Fierce Deity straight up destroyed Majora - he is very clearly superior. Cloud would never be a match for a serious Sephiroth, the whole fight was him getting owned before surprising Sephiroth at the end. While I won't make a power comparison between Majora and complete Sephiroth, Majora's own feats make him extremely dangerous to Cloud. The Fierce Deity obliterated Majora, and would obliterate Cloud all the same. Rest assured though, no other forms of Link are this powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Except Aeris and Zack didn;t assist in the fight. They only gave a morale boost. If you go back to when Cloud was fighting Bahamut SIN, Aeris' energy was pretty much shown to be how he pushed through Megaflare, probably the same case here, and even if it was true, if Sephiroth was fighting explicitly to kill Cloud instead of tourture him, he would have been cut in half after he was impaled and helpless. Game mechanics is your defense? Lol. Supernova still fails to kill. You don't see a ribbon on him? Watch Advent Children sometime. Fighting 1 vs 6? Oh, you mean the optional 1 vs 6. You can fight him with a team of three alone and win with incredible ease. Yeah, you know you can fight Majora without the Fierce Deity Mask and win too, that doesn't change the fact that in canon, and according to the story, Link used the Fierce Deity Mask. As for Sephiroth being able to use materia. Keep in mind materia is crystalized mako that contains the power of the Ancients. Being stuck in lifestream doesn't give a power boost. Cloud and Tifa proved that. True, except Tetsuya Nomura stated that Sephiroth got much stronger and gained control of all Materia. What happened to Cloud and Tifa is irrelevant. I like how you're arguing the whole Majora got beaten by Fierce Deity with ease then go on to be a hypocrite and say "Just because a hero beats a villain does not mean he is necessarily stronger than that villain, and especially does not mean he is capable of everything that villain can do" which is f***ing ironic. I never said the Fierce Deity could do everything (i.e. extinction events, polymorphing) that Majora can. The difference here is that while Cloud battled hard against Sephiroth and was visibly exhausted, the Fierce Deity straight up destroyed Majora - he is very clearly superior. Cloud would never be a match for a serious Sephiroth, the whole fight was him getting owned before surprising Sephiroth at the end. While I won't make a power comparison between Majora and complete Sephiroth, Majora's own feats make him extremely dangerous to Cloud. The Fierce Deity obliterated Majora, and would obliterate Cloud all the same. Rest assured though, no other forms of Link are this powerful. In the Legend of Zelda canon? You mean the video games and accurate storyline that never explicitly explains how Link took down Majora? Bahamut SIN? You clearly didn't watch the full version of advent Children. After being killed twice you would think Sephiroth would be serious. He's the hero of the war with Wutai. He isn't a cocky dumbass like you think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 In the Legend of Zelda canon? You mean the video games and accurate storyline that never explicitly explains how Link took down Majora? Bahamut SIN? You clearly didn't watch the full version of advent Children. After being killed twice you would think Sephiroth would be serious. He's the hero of the war with Wutai. He isn't a cocky dumbass like you think he is. The Manga adaptation has him using the mask. Seems canon enough to me, especially since, to get it, you have to help everyone, which Link would indeed do. I confess, I saw the original version. Uh.... yeah, when it comes to Cloud he doesn't fight seriously. the clip proves that. He's only interested in torturing Cloud. Cloud would have been cut in half if Sephiroth cared to kill him. Sephiroth can't be killed, so he doesn't care to "learn". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 The Manga adaptation has him using the mask. Seems canon enough to me, especially since, to get it, you have to help everyone, which Link would indeed do. I confess, I saw the original version. Uh.... yeah, when it comes to Cloud he doesn't fight seriously. the clip proves that. He's only interested in torturing Cloud. Cloud would have been cut in half if Sephiroth cared to kill him. Sephiroth can't be killed, so he doesn't care to "learn". Sephiroth can indeed be killed just like every other "immortal." As for the manga. That hasn't been canon for years. It isn't recognized by the company as canon and never has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Sephiroth can be "killed" but he will always return, all for the sake of trolling Cloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Sephiroth can be "killed" but he will always return, all for the sake of trolling Cloud. Can't guarantee that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ＳＯＮ ＧＯＫＵ Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Fierce Deity isn't the entire reason why Link won. Every time one of the heroes (Link's) pick up the Master Sword, their life and memories are put into the blade, when they abandon it/die and another hero picks it up, they learn all the skills of the previous Link with no trouble, even weapons outside of the sword, meaning that by MM he has 3 generations of swordplay to work with here, (Pre Skyward Sword Link, who was falsely imprisoned for 4 years and was the first to wield the Master Sword, Skyward Sword Link, who imprisoned Demise within the sword and all of Demise's skills with it (Arguably the most skilled Link), OoT Link (The one who accomplished the largest and hardest challenge) who left the Sword behind but retained all the skills.) Combined with the fact that the Kokiri Sword was a sacred treasure with the supposed same powers and the Double Helix Blade packing same killing power as the Big Goron's Sword, means that Fierce Deity Link is possibly the most deadly swordsman in video game history. Also, when NPC's talk to him, they cannot speak, and then the game crashes. What they are not showing you is their brains 'splodin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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